Pomona falls to ADL, Brandeis Center for Antisemitism, no mention of Islamophobia

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Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Meanwhile Israel is busy bombing churches in Gaza and burning Christian villages in the West Bank. Muslim, Christians and Jews lived together in Palestine and other Arab countries for centuries. Arab countries absorbed and welcomed the refugees from 1942 Spain and Jews fleeing the Holocaust in Europe. And look what thanks the Palestinians got for welcoming them! Whatever enmity there is started with the creation of Israel and the ensuing wars and Israel’s continuing overt and covert aggression against the Arab countries, as well as their horrible treatment of the Palestinians.

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1492 Spain I meant!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish students don't say that. Don't be an a**hole just spouting random stuff. And it's not analogous anyway to the previous post.

Honestly some stiff is not far off. If someone says “Palestinians deserve their own state” a lot of times people claim to hear that as “Israel must be destroyed”.

Palestinians had at least 3 opportunities for their own state and each time they chose violence instead.

This is another Israeli propaganda myth that dissolves quickly if you learn the actual history. The reason pro-Palestinian sentiment is growing is that people aren’t just accepting Israeli propaganda but are studying on their own what actually happened in these supposed peace processes and who actually instigates violence in the region. It’s eye-opening and not favorable at all for the Israeli side.

Tell us what actually happened I’m all ears.

The information is easily available and that side of the story is compelling and should be taught to our university students. That’s why the pro-Israelis are so freaked out about what is being taught in Middle Eastern Studies departments. They only want the Israeli biased or propagandized narrative to be taught to students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully for centuries, unlike in Europe. You should laugh from embarrassment of your own ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully for centuries, unlike in Europe. You should laugh from embarrassment of your own ignorance.

+1000. Europe is where the pogroms were. The Islamic world welcomed Jews, where they were successful physicians, scholars, financiers, etc. Yes they had a tax, but they were exempt from the heavier taxes required of Muslims.

As for your ignorant comment about multicultural Arab countries where Christians are not protected, most Lebanese and Egyptian Christians disagree with your fabricated claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully for centuries, unlike in Europe. You should laugh from embarrassment of your own ignorance.

+1000. Europe is where the pogroms were. The Islamic world welcomed Jews, where they were successful physicians, scholars, financiers, etc. Yes they had a tax, but they were exempt from the heavier taxes required of Muslims.

As for your ignorant comment about multicultural Arab countries where Christians are not protected, most Lebanese and Egyptian Christians disagree with your fabricated claim.

What? It was my understanding that Lebanon, Syria and Egypt, at least, expelled many of the Jews and Christians during the late 19th through the mid-20th century. Brooklyn Heights is filled with these Lebanese and Syrian Christians.

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Anonymous wrote:I give Pomona students immense credit for having been early to recognize the genocide.

Genocide by hamas you mean

How one gets this delusional is impressive.

1000%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jewish students don't say that. Don't be an a**hole just spouting random stuff. And it's not analogous anyway to the previous post.

Honestly some stiff is not far off. If someone says “Palestinians deserve their own state” a lot of times people claim to hear that as “Israel must be destroyed”.

Palestinians had at least 3 opportunities for their own state and each time they chose violence instead.

This is another Israeli propaganda myth that dissolves quickly if you learn the actual history. The reason pro-Palestinian sentiment is growing is that people aren’t just accepting Israeli propaganda but are studying on their own what actually happened in these supposed peace processes and who actually instigates violence in the region. It’s eye-opening and not favorable at all for the Israeli side.

Tell us what actually happened I’m all ears.

Knowledgeable people here won't be able to summarize decades of history in this space. However, for a perspective that is likely to differ from your own, you can view an extended presentation by Norman Finkelstein at the University of Massachusetts:

https://youtu.be/zFoHXuhq9mU?si=RdELyD9zV10qaXEc

You will not need to concur with any conclusions he might suggest to benefit from his scholarship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully for centuries, unlike in Europe. You should laugh from embarrassment of your own ignorance.

+1000. Europe is where the pogroms were. The Islamic world welcomed Jews, where they were successful physicians, scholars, financiers, etc. Yes they had a tax, but they were exempt from the heavier taxes required of Muslims.

As for your ignorant comment about multicultural Arab countries where Christians are not protected, most Lebanese and Egyptian Christians disagree with your fabricated claim.

Ask a Lebanese Christian or a Coptic Christian in Egypt how they feel.

Read about the Farhud in Iraq and the 800,000 Arab Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

You don’t get to rewrite our history or what’s currently happening on the ground, which is that 20% of Israelis are Arab and full citizens who vote, serve in the military. Many of them are doctors and nurses who will soon go on shift to relieve their colleagues who honor Shabbat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jewish students don't say that. Don't be an a**hole just spouting random stuff. And it's not analogous anyway to the previous post.

Honestly some stiff is not far off. If someone says “Palestinians deserve their own state” a lot of times people claim to hear that as “Israel must be destroyed”.

Palestinians had at least 3 opportunities for their own state and each time they chose violence instead.

This is another Israeli propaganda myth that dissolves quickly if you learn the actual history. The reason pro-Palestinian sentiment is growing is that people aren’t just accepting Israeli propaganda but are studying on their own what actually happened in these supposed peace processes and who actually instigates violence in the region. It’s eye-opening and not favorable at all for the Israeli side.

Tell us what actually happened I’m all ears.

Knowledgeable people here won't be able to summarize decades of history in this space. However, for a perspective that is likely to differ from your own, you can view an extended presentation by Norman Finkelstein at the University of Massachusetts:

https://youtu.be/zFoHXuhq9mU?si=RdELyD9zV10qaXEc

You will not need to concur with any conclusions he might suggest to benefit from his scholarship.

I’ve heard him plenty. He is wrong.

[Anonymous]

From an old interview with Finkelstein for those not familiar with him:

“It was a source of embarrassment to be the child of Holocaust survivors. First of all, my parents were called the greenhorns, because their English was very heavily accented. And if you were the child of a Holocaust survivor, [the presumption was] your parents went like sheep to the ovens.”

OK. So, your parents were horribly victimized twice, and then you became a victim of the double-trauma that they endured. Why is it good to stay trapped in that shame? An entire people suffered.

“It was the private mourning of our family, and that’s it. Don’t claim my parents’ suffering. You have no idea what they went through. I get very angry frankly when I hear Jews talk about the Holocaust. What do you know? Really, what do you know? What did you experience? What right do you have to it? It’s just so solipsistic, it’s so self-absorbed.”

[Anonymous]

A few excerpts from Finkelstein, such as those above, will do nothing to familiarize people with his voluminous scholarship, especially since these excerpts emphasize an ad hominem perspective. Those truly interested in Finkelstein's scholarship, or those who simply seek more information on this topic, can watch his presentation at UMass (posted above), which IS representative of his greater body of work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully for centuries, unlike in Europe. You should laugh from embarrassment of your own ignorance.

+1000. Europe is where the pogroms were. The Islamic world welcomed Jews, where they were successful physicians, scholars, financiers, etc. Yes they had a tax, but they were exempt from the heavier taxes required of Muslims.

As for your ignorant comment about multicultural Arab countries where Christians are not protected, most Lebanese and Egyptian Christians disagree with your fabricated claim.

Ask a Lebanese Christian or a Coptic Christian in Egypt how they feel.

Read about the Farhud in Iraq and the 800,000 Arab Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

You don’t get to rewrite our history or what’s currently happening on the ground, which is that 20% of Israelis are Arab and full citizens who vote, serve in the military. Many of them are doctors and nurses who will soon go on shift to relieve their colleagues who honor Shabbat.

Yes, all of us should absolutely should speak to the small percentage of Palestinian Muslims and Christians who are now Israeli citizens. Behind closed doors, they will tell their stories of discrimination, and how they feel and are treated like second class citizens in Israel. And how they weep for their Palestinian brothers and sisters in the West Bank and Gaza. And how they feel forced to remain silent or even tacitly participate in the demonization of their own community just to survive day to day life. And they can’t say anything publicly because they can be threatened, jailed, attacked or lose their livelihood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully for centuries, unlike in Europe. You should laugh from embarrassment of your own ignorance.

+1000. Europe is where the pogroms were. The Islamic world welcomed Jews, where they were successful physicians, scholars, financiers, etc. Yes they had a tax, but they were exempt from the heavier taxes required of Muslims.

As for your ignorant comment about multicultural Arab countries where Christians are not protected, most Lebanese and Egyptian Christians disagree with your fabricated claim.

What? It was my understanding that Lebanon, Syria and Egypt, at least, expelled many of the Jews and Christians during the late 19th through the mid-20th century. Brooklyn Heights is filled with these Lebanese and Syrian Christians.

Lebanon would be a multicultural democracy if Israel didn’t exist and Israel did not bomb it every few years. Really bad example. Not to mention there was no Lebanon as a distinct country until the 20th century.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The BBC has issued guidelines to news staff to the effect they may question the actions of Israel but not the existence of Israel itself, in other words anti-Zionism is considered antisemitism, despite Zionism being the ideological foundation of ethnic cleansing and genocide through mass murder, mass starvation and the most grotesque forms of torture.

Settlements at UCLA, Columbia and Pomona as demanded by the US government, with undoubtedly more to come, indicate that the same applies to the US as well.

Meanwhile, a Zionist mob ran wild at UCLA, attacking a pro-Palestinian encampment, while UCLA police watched and did nothing.

Wait, are you actually suggesting Israel shouldn't exist? Yeah, that's a problem

Not as a theocracy, apartheid state, no. Your defending it is the problem.

A multicultural Palestine with federalism and protected minorities, including Jews? Sounds good to me.

This is hilarious. I’m laughing. There has never been a sustained multicultural Arab country where Jews or Christians for that matter have been protected. We are forced to pay tax and be second class citizens, and then come the pogroms and we are either forced out or fortunate enough to escape.

Arabs and Jews lived together peacefully for centuries, unlike in Europe. You should laugh from embarrassment of your own ignorance.

+1000. Europe is where the pogroms were. The Islamic world welcomed Jews, where they were successful physicians, scholars, financiers, etc. Yes they had a tax, but they were exempt from the heavier taxes required of Muslims.

As for your ignorant comment about multicultural Arab countries where Christians are not protected, most Lebanese and Egyptian Christians disagree with your fabricated claim.

Ask a Lebanese Christian or a Coptic Christian in Egypt how they feel.

Read about the Farhud in Iraq and the 800,000 Arab Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

You don’t get to rewrite our history or what’s currently happening on the ground, which is that 20% of Israelis are Arab and full citizens who vote, serve in the military. Many of them are doctors and nurses who will soon go on shift to relieve their colleagues who honor Shabbat.

Yes, all of us should absolutely should speak to the small percentage of Palestinian Muslims and Christians who are now Israeli citizens. Behind closed doors, they will tell their stories of discrimination, and how they feel and are treated like second class citizens in Israel. And how they weep for their Palestinian brothers and sisters in the West Bank and Gaza. And how they feel forced to remain silent or even tacitly participate in the demonization of their own community just to survive day to day life. And they can’t say anything publicly because they can be threatened, jailed, attacked or lose their livelihood.

Well this is so convenient, they have these secrets thoughts that we can never confirm but we just have to trust you bro!