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"Just so you know 70% of Jews say that Israel's existence is important to them/their Jewish identity."
As a companion statistic, the Washington Post found that 39% of U.S. Jews believe Israel has been committing genocide. |
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"I am sure when you are attacking Zionists you are taking that into consideration."
I don't use the term. It has no agreed upon definition and is potentially divisive. |
OMG- yes it does, that is exactly the point. Theodor Herzl largely coined the term for Jewish Nationalism. Your desire to redefine it does not make it so. |
I’d take it pretty seriously if 40% of Christian’s found that Christian nationalism is a major issue. |
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Cool. The 30 - 39% of Jews who are unapologetically critical of Israeli’s policies and actions? Real menschen, for the record.
The other 61 - 70%? Eh, not a fan. |
Nonetheless, as with American public opinion in general, there's a huge gap between this 39% figure and the consensus of experts. Reuters reported on an 86% figure among scholars of genocide, for example: "Eighty-six percent of those who voted among the 500-member International Association of Genocide Scholars backed the resolution declaring Israel’s "policies and actions in Gaza" had met the legal definition set out in Article II of the 1948 UN convention on genocide." https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-is-committing-genocide-gaza-scholars-association-says-2025-09-01/ |
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Instead of protesting something happening half a world away that will have absolutely zero effect on the situation, why aren’t these protestors marching against the allegations against the Claremont McKenna/ Harvey mud swim team?
The Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (CMS) men's swim and dive team was temporarily suspended last week as they underwent an investigation by the Claremont McKenna College (CMC) Office of Civil Rights into “some concerns” about the team’s culture, according to an email from Coach Charlie Griffiths obtained by the Independent. https://www.claremontindependent.com/post/cms-men-s-swim-and-dive-team-investigated-for-misconduct-temporarily-suspended The temporary suspension arose from a complaint made by a black member of the swim team to CMS athletics in mid-October about the behavior of teammates. The complaint reportedly cited the name of a Clash Royale clan, “Ben Higgers,” that members of the swim team belonged to, and additional in-person commentary made by some swimmers, including referring to each other as “Nate,” or “Higger,” an allusion to the spoonerism “Nate Higgers.” The complainant has since quit the team and moved out of the dorm room he previously shared with a teammate |
Zero effect, huh? 😂😂😂😂😂 Man, pick a lane already! Does everyone hate you or not? Is speaking up in opposition to Israel’s atrocities (aka anti-semitism in your mind) at historically high levels or not?Are the unprecedented attacks on our colleges and universities, our immigration policies, and our constitutional rights to assemble and exercise free speech justified or not? It’s become ridiculous at this point - you can’t even keep up with your own absurd, self-serving lies. The swim team details are awful, though. I wouldn’t take issue if those involved were dismissed from the team. |
| Been wondering all day whether any of you would have a moment of self reflection today . . . but I didn't really think you would. We know what you really mean, you support killing Jews, always have, always will. . . |
If you believe such an outlandish thing, I'd rather you own it by saying "I." If anyone else feels similarly, for which I'd feel very sorry, they can speak for themselves. |
Why do you insist that opposition to Israel’s policies and actions in any way, shape, or form is supportive of harming, much less killing, Jews? Why? Why do you conflate the nation with the people, and why can’t you differentiate between criticism and support for murderous acts? Maybe … just maybe … could it be because that nation you seemingly cannot disentangle from your own identity is guilty of doing just that? Of conflating innocent, non-combatant Palestinians (who they SHOULD have no right to harm) with “terrorists” (who they have a right to harm if those “terrorists” pose an actual risk to the lives of its citizens)? Since Israel conflates so recklessly, is that where you take your cue? I don’t know anybody who would espouse killing innocent people. But you do. Over 1/2 a nation’s worth of people. |
DP. You mean other than the Pomona protesters, right? Bc they posted explicit support for both Hamas and Hezbollah on sm. So you do apparently know somebody who espouses killing innocent people. |
Exactly - this is what globalize the Intafada means |
What are you talking about? I don’t know the Pomona protesters. I don’t support Hamas or Hezbollah. Expressions of support for Hamas and Hezbollah are also not my thing, never have been. But even someone who does express support for those groups isn’t, by extension, automatically supportive of killing innocent people. But let’s talk about you, and your support for Israel, a nation where over 1/2 its citizenry are supportive of the killing of innocent, non-combatant civilians. Your activity here clearly establishes that you support Israel. Polling done by Israelis clearly establishes that over 1/2 of Israel supports the killing of innocent, non-combatant Palestinians. Gross. How do you live with yourself? |