Why is it so hard to meet moderate women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this day and age "moderate" means republican. When your civil rights are being stripped, it's difficult to remain in the middle. You are either brain washed or fighting. There's very little middle ground.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you think being moderate is impossible, you aren’t moderate.

PP who said we all got married in our 20s is pretty much correct, I think.

You also might not know, because I don’t talk about politics with people I barely know.

It is not like normal times anymore we must talk about the corruption in the WH it’s horrific

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!

If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.

You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.

Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.

Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day

Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's are examples of moderate opinions. I think many women qualify:

Believes MAGAs and Antifas are both idiotic, or at least too extreme.

Believes police protect people but sometimes use excessive force and sometimes arrest innocent people.

Believes in taxing wealthy people at higher rates than poor people but believe in capitalism.

Believes in enforcing limits on immigration but opposes masked ICE agents intimidating, scaring and beating brown people who are good neighbors and contributing to society.

Moderates think being anti-fascist (Antifa) is … extreme? No. And that bilateral comparison is just … off.

A moderate is generally someone who holds a set of beliefs but is open minded enough to have them challenged and consider other points of view in good faith. It isn’t a checklist of ideological positions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!

If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.

You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.

Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.

Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day

Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.

Yes, you are. Because you support policies that ruin lives.

[Anonymous]

OP, DCUM is not the place to find moderate women. There are very few of us here.

FWIW, I am politically pro-choice but also believe that a fetus is a person and that abortion is bad and not a decision to make lightly. And I am a person who had one -- my first son had a genetic defect that was fatal and extremely painful, and I chose to terminate because he was in extreme pain with no chance of life, not even disabled life. He was dying and there was no other way to provide relief from the excruciating pain. It was the most horrible decision I have ever had to make. He was much wanted.

I still grieve his loss and it has been almost 20 years now.

I think we should have abortion laws matching those in Europe. This terminate for any reason through birth is eugenics and frightening. This should be a heavy moral decision, because you are taking a life.

FWIW we consulted our Catholic priest and he was supportive of our decision. I know DCUM won't believe that, but life is complicated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!

If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.

Actually, fetuses get all kinds of protection and care. That doesn’t mean forced gestation, and that’s the thing. Everyone agrees that a healthy, viable fetus gets a free ride out of the woman and into care. Everyone does not agree the government should be able to force a woman (and force is the only way to do it) to use her body to turn a blastocyst into a human capable of independent life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's are examples of moderate opinions. I think many women qualify:

Believes MAGAs and Antifas are both idiotic, or at least too extreme.

Believes police protect people but sometimes use excessive force and sometimes arrest innocent people.

Believes in taxing wealthy people at higher rates than poor people but believe in capitalism.

Believes in enforcing limits on immigration but opposes masked ICE agents intimidating, scaring and beating brown people who are good neighbors and contributing to society.

Agree with this 100%. Yes, moderate people exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!

If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.

You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.

Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.

Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day

Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.

NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this day and age "moderate" means republican. When your civil rights are being stripped, it's difficult to remain in the middle. You are either brain washed or fighting. There's very little middle ground.

I am a guy and understand this. OP should just look for a non far right republican not a moderate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's are examples of moderate opinions. I think many women qualify:

Believes MAGAs and Antifas are both idiotic, or at least too extreme.

Believes police protect people but sometimes use excessive force and sometimes arrest innocent people.

Believes in taxing wealthy people at higher rates than poor people but believe in capitalism.

Believes in enforcing limits on immigration but opposes masked ICE agents intimidating, scaring and beating brown people who are good neighbors and contributing to society.

Sounds like a mainstream Democrat in Congress these days. It is actually a problem that the Democratic party now has to answer to further right moderates AND further left fringes. But if you write off women who vote for Democrats even though they may have these views, you are also part of the problem, automatic rejection of Democrats supports extremists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's are examples of moderate opinions. I think many women qualify:

Believes MAGAs and Antifas are both idiotic, or at least too extreme.

Believes police protect people but sometimes use excessive force and sometimes arrest innocent people.

Believes in taxing wealthy people at higher rates than poor people but believe in capitalism.

Believes in enforcing limits on immigration but opposes masked ICE agents intimidating, scaring and beating brown people who are good neighbors and contributing to society.

Agree with this 100%. Yes, moderate people exist.

OP here and agree completely with this. But according to everyone else, you’re MAGA if you say the word moderate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's are examples of moderate opinions. I think many women qualify:

Believes MAGAs and Antifas are both idiotic, or at least too extreme.

Believes police protect people but sometimes use excessive force and sometimes arrest innocent people.

Believes in taxing wealthy people at higher rates than poor people but believe in capitalism.

Believes in enforcing limits on immigration but opposes masked ICE agents intimidating, scaring and beating brown people who are good neighbors and contributing to society.

Agree with this 100%. Yes, moderate people exist.

OP here and agree completely with this. But according to everyone else, you’re MAGA if you say the word moderate.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck but calls itself a "moderate", you know...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!

If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.

You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.

Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.

Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day

Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.

You seem very self important

I wasn't really interested in talking any further.

[Anonymous]

They are already married. Speaking as an anti-trump, anti-AOC/mamdani “moderate” wife with kids.