Why is it so hard to meet moderate women?

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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.

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Moderate woman in 2025 means either (i) republican but not MAGA or (ii) "i don't really think about politics very much".
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Anonymous wrote:DH and I both were "moderate" in the 2010s - voting more often for Republican candidates until the first Trump election. Since then we have swung completely to the left. There is no longer a line between financial and social conservatism on one end and financial and social liberalism/progressivism on the other, where people fall somewhere in between the ends for the most part.

I and many women I know are "moderate" in that I am married, straight, white, gender conforming, church going, mom of 3, blonde, have lots of things to talk about besides politics, think my DH and plenty of other men are wonderful, have plenty of beliefs that do not align 100% with, say, AOC. But "moderate" in politics is an oxymoron these days.


What does being blonde have to do with being moderate? Are brunettes and redheads the lunatic fringe?
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



When you invent a way to bring a non-viable fetus to full term without using me as an incubator, we can talk about what's "killing." Until then, STFU. It is MY BODY and I get to decide whta happens to it. NOT YOU.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



This. It also doesn't make sense to trust DNA for paternity and criminal responsibility but ignore it in matters of actual existence.

I am sorry about your ectopic pregnancy.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



Getting an abortion for your medical issue but denying other women the same right is really messed up.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



Getting an abortion for your medical issue but denying other women the same right is really messed up.


She’s not saying that? She’s saying you can get an abortion got medical reasons where life of the mother is at risk. She’s simply saying abortions where the kid would be an inconvenience to the mother are insanity.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



Getting an abortion for your medical issue but denying other women the same right is really messed up.


She’s not saying that? She’s saying you can get an abortion got medical reasons where life of the mother is at risk. She’s simply saying abortions where the kid would be an inconvenience to the mother are insanity.


Abortion *for* medical reasons
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



Getting an abortion for your medical issue but denying other women the same right is really messed up.


She’s not saying that? She’s saying you can get an abortion got medical reasons where life of the mother is at risk. She’s simply saying abortions where the kid would be an inconvenience to the mother are insanity.


No it is not. Bringing children into this world who will end up in poverty/abused/malnourished or in a perpetual cycle of violence is insanity. It's so DCUM to assume everyone is middle class and comfortable in their late 30s with a well establshed career and a kid would just be an inconvenience is totally ignorant. If a 16 year old wants an abortion because she had unprotected sex, so effing be it.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



Getting an abortion for your medical issue but denying other women the same right is really messed up.


She’s not saying that? She’s saying you can get an abortion got medical reasons where life of the mother is at risk. She’s simply saying abortions where the kid would be an inconvenience to the mother are insanity.


No it is not. Bringing children into this world who will end up in poverty/abused/malnourished or in a perpetual cycle of violence is insanity. It's so DCUM to assume everyone is middle class and comfortable in their late 30s with a well establshed career and a kid would just be an inconvenience is totally ignorant. If a 16 year old wants an abortion because she had unprotected sex, so effing be it.


+1

Every child deserves to be wanted.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



Getting an abortion for your medical issue but denying other women the same right is really messed up.


She’s not saying that? She’s saying you can get an abortion got medical reasons where life of the mother is at risk. She’s simply saying abortions where the kid would be an inconvenience to the mother are insanity.


No it is not. Bringing children into this world who will end up in poverty/abused/malnourished or in a perpetual cycle of violence is insanity. It's so DCUM to assume everyone is middle class and comfortable in their late 30s with a well establshed career and a kid would just be an inconvenience is totally ignorant. If a 16 year old wants an abortion because she had unprotected sex, so effing be it.


So if you lose your job when your child is 3 months old, and you’re worried about feeding your child, does that give you permission to kill it? Of course not. So why does that 3-month old life have any more dignity and the right not to be killed than a child at 19 weeks in the womb? The truth is that it doesn’t. They’re all human life.
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All the single women available to meet are only single because the are very hard left and can’t keep a man. There is some bias in the women you are meeting because of this. Most moderate women are all taken because they are a hot commodity
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Anonymous wrote:All the single women available to meet are only single because the are very hard left and can’t keep a man. There is some bias in the women you are meeting because of this. Most moderate women are all taken because they are a hot commodity


Agreed.
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Anonymous wrote:So sad that it's considered radical now for a woman to want to have control over her own body. What a dissident!


If you are pro-abortion you are demanding control over someone else’s body.

I’m all for most progressive stances, but I can’t be pro-abortion, plain and simple. That fetus is a human being that can’t speak up for itself. Shouldn’t we be protecting it like all other forms of life? Why doesn’t it deserve our respect and protection? Seems odd that we draw this line.

So yes, moderate women exist. We don’t subscribe to all we are told to believe.


You aren't moderate. It's like the wealthy calling themselves "middle class."

You can't trust Conservatives to run this conversation. The moment they get a chance, they are digging out laws from the 1930s and trying to enforce them on women.

Because they naturally think they should have governance over women's bodies.

When is it a fetus, PP?

Should the single cell zygote be considered a fetus? If you can't answer, you have no business being in someone else's business.


Well, I’m a person consistent with my beliefs. I believe people should have control over their actions provided they don’t hurt others. I’m a person who believes we should help those around us in need, particularly those who came here from other countries hoping for stability and a good life. I believe in rehabilitation and not the death penalty.

So, remaining consistent with my respect for others, that extends to the new life within the womb. It has its own DNA and is not merely a clump of cells. And my thoughts on this are born out of science, not religion. (I’m actually not religious.) I believe, as many do, that life begins at conception… not at an arbitrarily drawn line that can’t be agreed upon.

So abortion is taking a life that is not your own. And, as a person who respects life, that is inconsistent with my beliefs.

The far left’s militant stance that women demand control over others in the name of “body autonomy” is why I can’t be far left.

And you are welcome to dismiss me for that. I don’t think I’ll feel insulted.


Ah conception

Yeah, you aren't moderate and I say that as a religious person.

And you are hurting people.

You'll find out one day


Again… I’m not going to get upset because some anonymous person on the internet decides to mischaracterize me.

I am moderate, and disagreeing with you on life doesn’t change that.

And no, I’m not hurting people by maintaining consistent beliefs that support life.


NP. You are not pro-life when your beliefs cause more women to die, no matter how smug you present yourself. Zero moderate about that. Next…


And your beliefs support almost 1,000,000 deaths per year in the US. You don’t have the higher ground here.

I’m able to see this issue clearly. It’s killing, pure and simple. You may not like that inconvenient truth. In the case of nonviable fetuses, then that’s a discussion to have with a medical professional. I had to do that myself for an ectopic pregnancy that would have killed me and the child. And I still live with the regret that I had to endure that; I think about it often.

But abortion used because the child might be inconvenient? Sorry… that’s not a good enough reason to kill. “My body, my choice” ignores the truth that it isn’t YOUR body that is being terminated.

My thoughts are reasoned and logical and consistent with my beliefs about life. Saying that you support life EXCEPT the very young doesn’t give you a leg to stand on.



Getting an abortion for your medical issue but denying other women the same right is really messed up.


She’s not saying that? She’s saying you can get an abortion got medical reasons where life of the mother is at risk. She’s simply saying abortions where the kid would be an inconvenience to the mother are insanity.


No it is not. Bringing children into this world who will end up in poverty/abused/malnourished or in a perpetual cycle of violence is insanity. It's so DCUM to assume everyone is middle class and comfortable in their late 30s with a well establshed career and a kid would just be an inconvenience is totally ignorant. If a 16 year old wants an abortion because she had unprotected sex, so effing be it.


So if you lose your job when your child is 3 months old, and you’re worried about feeding your child, does that give you permission to kill it? Of course not. So why does that 3-month old life have any more dignity and the right not to be killed than a child at 19 weeks in the womb? The truth is that it doesn’t. They’re all human life.


One is a child who has been born and one is a non-viable fetus. I'm not sure why that's confusing to you idiots.
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Anonymous wrote:DH and I both were "moderate" in the 2010s - voting more often for Republican candidates until the first Trump election. Since then we have swung completely to the left. There is no longer a line between financial and social conservatism on one end and financial and social liberalism/progressivism on the other, where people fall somewhere in between the ends for the most part.

I and many women I know are "moderate" in that I am married, straight, white, gender conforming, church going, mom of 3, blonde, have lots of things to talk about besides politics, think my DH and plenty of other men are wonderful, have plenty of beliefs that do not align 100% with, say, AOC. But "moderate" in politics is an oxymoron these days.


I could have written most of this. I now vote straight left and probably will going forward, unless the candidate has serious flaws. (For example, a candidate did adult film to finance her campaign in our area. The other candidate would have had to have been a murderer to make me vote for that.)
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