Holton parents - you have got to help your girls out with these skirts.

[Anonymous]

I was about to comment about how teenage girls should be given the space to work things out.

But then I clicked on the Holton Arms link.

Goodness. That's what Holton Arms is promoting for 14 year old girls?

Really?

What is going on with that school? It seems they've been having issues for some years now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem. It's a private school. Choose a different school if it bothers you so much. Go to a different coffeeshop. Stop policing girls' and women's bodies!

Go to a different coffee shop? Really? How about all people stop exposing themselves in public? It's not OK for the unhoused elderly man and it's not OK for the teenage girl. People don't want to be mooned in public.

lol that was a fascinating glimpse into a wildly entitled persons mind though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem. It's a private school. Choose a different school if it bothers you so much. Go to a different coffeeshop. Stop policing girls' and women's bodies!

Nobody is policing their bodies. But nobody wants to see their a$$ cheeks hanging out in your face when you’re sitting a coffee shop and they’re standing in front of you. Get a grip.

Yeah, nutcase, I’m not going to stop going to my neighborhood coffee shop because you refuse to address sending your kid to school, not the beach, school, and in public, in her swimwear and insist we are all being so crazy if we object to seeing their as$ cheeks. It’s actually illegal to go outside with your as& out. That’s the issue. The actual police may well be policing your ridiculous choices.

Where is it illegal???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look if my 14 year old came to me in this outfit and told me she was going to school I would be like no you are not. Wouldn’t most parents say no to Britney Spears sexy school girl? That’s the litmus test right there. It’s not hard or confusing.

That Brittney outfit is modest compaed to the HA skirts.

[Anonymous]

Ew gross! Stop sexualizing girls!

[Anonymous]

Does this include tweens/elementary kids? I can't imagine my girls wearing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is filled with misogyny. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope it gets deleted.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Thank you for your thoughtful response. Please educate yourself on why commenting on women’s clothing choices, especially those of young women and girls, unnecessarily sexualizes them and prohibits them from expressing themselves, being comfortable, or having autonomy over their bodies for fear of what others, especially boys and men might think. There are a million articles out there. Here’s one:
https://registerforum.org/15176/opinion/clothing-is-not-the-problem-misogyny-is/

"Hey, if you don't let your girls wear booty shorts and short skirts with thongs, YOU are the problem -- let them where what I .. I mean, they want!"

--Epstein & Co.

It is one thing to agree that women should not be objectified; it's a whole other to pretend it won't happen in a world that frankly is not all that safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ew gross! Stop sexualizing girls!

Who said anything sexual?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When we toured Holton last year, my daughter thought that the uber-short skirts and rules against wearing pants until winter contradicted the school’s messaging about empowering girls. She chose a different (co-ed) school where we see a variety of skirt and shorts lengths, as well as plenty of girls wearing sweatpants, joggers and jeans.

Wait, so the school rule is all young ladies must show their thighs daily until it snows? Who exactly is in charge of this rule and the uniform choice? Please don't tell me a man is Head of School or I'll vomit.

I think you're allowed to wear pants under the skirt. There's plenty of pictures showing HA girls wearing jeans and baggy sweatshirts under the skirt, which I think is just as bizarre as wearing a too short skirt.

Doesn't that just highlight the problem with the skirts? The fact that we want or have to wear pants, shorts, or cheerleading briefs under them literally means they are too short to be worn on their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When we toured Holton last year, my daughter thought that the uber-short skirts and rules against wearing pants until winter contradicted the school’s messaging about empowering girls. She chose a different (co-ed) school where we see a variety of skirt and shorts lengths, as well as plenty of girls wearing sweatpants, joggers and jeans.

Wait, so the school rule is all young ladies must show their thighs daily until it snows? Who exactly is in charge of this rule and the uniform choice? Please don't tell me a man is Head of School or I'll vomit.

I think you're allowed to wear pants under the skirt. There's plenty of pictures showing HA girls wearing jeans and baggy sweatshirts under the skirt, which I think is just as bizarre as wearing a too short skirt.

Doesn't that just highlight the problem with the skirts? The fact that we want or have to wear pants, shorts, or cheerleading briefs under them literally means they are too short to be worn on their own.

I see some normal length skirts on that website with pants worn underneath. I assume either the girls want the extra warmth of pants underneath or they don’t enjoy the dress code.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ew gross! Stop sexualizing girls!

OP doesn't want to be mooned at the coffee shop with her kids. That's not sexual.

[Anonymous]

School website issues aside, keep in mind that parents of middle and high schoolers don’t always know what’s going on outside the home. Many of these short short skirts wearing students’ parents might not know this is going on. I would appreciate a heads up as a mom. I know plenty of kids who ride their bikes or scooters to middle school or high school with the helmet attached to the machine and not worn on the head. I see this every single day. I’m sure the parent sees their kid leaving with a helmet and assumes the kid is wearing it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the problem. It's a private school. Choose a different school if it bothers you so much. Go to a different coffeeshop. Stop policing girls' and women's bodies!

Nobody is policing their bodies. But nobody wants to see their a$$ cheeks hanging out in your face when you’re sitting a coffee shop and they’re standing in front of you. Get a grip.

Yeah, nutcase, I’m not going to stop going to my neighborhood coffee shop because you refuse to address sending your kid to school, not the beach, school, and in public, in her swimwear and insist we are all being so crazy if we object to seeing their as$ cheeks. It’s actually illegal to go outside with your as& out. That’s the issue. The actual police may well be policing your ridiculous choices.

Where is it illegal???

“ In Maryland, you can be convicted of indecent exposure if you willfully and intentionally expose your private parts, in a public place, in the presence of others. “Private parts” are defined as genitals, buttocks, and female breasts. The “presence of others” means exposing yourself in a manner that is likely to be seen by a casual observer. As you can see, the Maryland does not require you to intend to alarm someone or for sexual gratification, the mere act of exposing yourself can lead to charges.”
Source: https://www.waechterlawfirm.com/blog/2016/08/maryland-indecent-exposure-laws-explained/
That’s just one example; indecent exposure laws exist in many places, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh - I was expecting some pearl clutching/feigned outrage but you're right...those are super short! I'd feel so self-conscious to bend over or sit...

My daughter has that same uniform skirt (for a different school) - when worn at the natural waistline, or even rolled once, it is no where near that short! And she is tall. Those girls must be rolling those waistbands like mad!

https://www.landsend.com/products/school-uniform-girls-plaid-box-pleat-skirt-top-of-the-knee/id_364666?attributes=32683,45133,52957&schoolStoreNum=900117060&grade=10&gender=1

They’re getting the skirts hemmed after they buy them.

[Anonymous]

Holton Mom of a lower school girl here and I hate it too. I tell my daughter every day she better not try to pull this shit in middle school! It gets better in winter when they wear sweatpants underneath.