Holton parents - you have got to help your girls out with these skirts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I simply don’t understand these whack a dos so ardently defending the belt skirts as endorsed by the school and worn all around by young girls and women. What purpose do these naked skirts serve? Many of us who care have decided that our daughters won’t wear, for example, micro jean skirts or booty shorts. Many many many parents I know would not allow that to be worn to school and that would be a logical and sensible decision. Why are you trying to make this into a sexism/pedophile/slut shaming exercise? Why not just suggest to the school that they institute a normal standard re skirt length and under things? It’s bizarre, frankly.

Frankly, what you wrote reads bizarre to me. Who defines normal standard re skirt length? Maybe such a definition is
typical at a parochial school where church-defined “propriety” prevails. Not at a non-parochial private like HA.

It’s not credible to assert that there’s no recognizable standards as to how short is too short. If your as$ is out, it’s too short. This thorny conundrum is now solved for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I simply don’t understand these whack a dos so ardently defending the belt skirts as endorsed by the school and worn all around by young girls and women. What purpose do these naked skirts serve? Many of us who care have decided that our daughters won’t wear, for example, micro jean skirts or booty shorts. Many many many parents I know would not allow that to be worn to school and that would be a logical and sensible decision. Why are you trying to make this into a sexism/pedophile/slut shaming exercise? Why not just suggest to the school that they institute a normal standard re skirt length and under things? It’s bizarre, frankly.

Frankly, what you wrote reads bizarre to me. Who defines normal standard re skirt length? Maybe such a definition is
typical at a parochial school where church-defined “propriety” prevails. Not at a non-parochial private like HA.

LOL "what is a dress code? who could ever say what is appropriate for a girl to wear to school??!" she asks incredulously, on a 500+ comment thread about hem lengths at a school that requires uniforms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I simply don’t understand these whack a dos so ardently defending the belt skirts as endorsed by the school and worn all around by young girls and women. What purpose do these naked skirts serve? Many of us who care have decided that our daughters won’t wear, for example, micro jean skirts or booty shorts. Many many many parents I know would not allow that to be worn to school and that would be a logical and sensible decision. Why are you trying to make this into a sexism/pedophile/slut shaming exercise? Why not just suggest to the school that they institute a normal standard re skirt length and under things? It’s bizarre, frankly.

Frankly, what you wrote reads bizarre to me. Who defines normal standard re skirt length? Maybe such a definition is
typical at a parochial school where church-defined “propriety” prevails. Not at a non-parochial private like HA.

A school dress code is not just a religious school thing. Even most public schools have them.

Almost every school has them, religious or non. The skirts at holton would never be allowed at most public schools. Cheerleader skirts are longer.

Of course they wouldn't be. But that's part of it, isn't it? They are rich and young and think they are better than everyone else. They get to parade around half naked and everyone else is supposed to pretend it's fine (feminist, even!) because who is going to tell these rich girls they can't do just exactly what they want? Not the school, not their parents, certainly not members of the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not skit shaming to think 14 year olds headed to school shouldn’t be sticking their uncovered rear ends in the faces of the unwilling public. Most of us want no part of this.

Heck, I don’t think 30 year old women or men or non is-whatever should be sticking their uncovered rear ends out in public either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I simply don’t understand these whack a dos so ardently defending the belt skirts as endorsed by the school and worn all around by young girls and women. What purpose do these naked skirts serve? Many of us who care have decided that our daughters won’t wear, for example, micro jean skirts or booty shorts. Many many many parents I know would not allow that to be worn to school and that would be a logical and sensible decision. Why are you trying to make this into a sexism/pedophile/slut shaming exercise? Why not just suggest to the school that they institute a normal standard re skirt length and under things? It’s bizarre, frankly.

Frankly, what you wrote reads bizarre to me. Who defines normal standard re skirt length? Maybe such a definition is
typical at a parochial school where church-defined “propriety” prevails. Not at a non-parochial private like HA.

A school dress code is not just a religious school thing. Even most public schools have them.

Almost every school has them, religious or non. The skirts at holton would never be allowed at most public schools. Cheerleader skirts are longer.

Of course they wouldn't be. But that's part of it, isn't it? They are rich and young and think they are better than everyone else. They get to parade around half naked and everyone else is supposed to pretend it's fine (feminist, even!) because who is going to tell these rich girls they can't do just exactly what they want? Not the school, not their parents, certainly not members of the community.

Not you. You literally have no right.

[Anonymous]

The generalizations on here are gross and baseless. The presumption that every girl there is rich and entitled and striving to be popular by virtue of their skirt length. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

I don’t fault the girls, they’re just kids. It’s the adults— school leaders, whoever approved that website photo, parents, etc— who are failing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The generalizations on here are gross and baseless. The presumption that every girl there is rich and entitled and striving to be popular by virtue of their skirt length. Ridiculous.

You could dispel much of that thinking by working to have a normal dress code implemented like every other school. These girls are a laughing stock. It’s embarrassing for them and the school and the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.holton-arms.edu/about/our-mission

Wow! I went to Catholic school and if they thought our skirt was too short, we had to kneel on the floor. If the skirt didn't touch the ground, automatic detention. They didn't care what your plans were after school that day.

My son's Catholic HS gave him detention because his date to a dance wore sneakers. At an assembly, they were told what the dress code was for boys and girls. Those Catholic schools don't play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.holton-arms.edu/about/our-mission

Wow! I went to Catholic school and if they thought our skirt was too short, we had to kneel on the floor. If the skirt didn't touch the ground, automatic detention. They didn't care what your plans were after school that day.

My son's Catholic HS gave him detention because his date to a dance wore sneakers. At an assembly, they were told what the dress code was for boys and girls. Those Catholic schools don't play.

That’s insane in the other direction. What was the footwear requirement for girls?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.holton-arms.edu/about/our-mission

Wow! I went to Catholic school and if they thought our skirt was too short, we had to kneel on the floor. If the skirt didn't touch the ground, automatic detention. They didn't care what your plans were after school that day.

My son's Catholic HS gave him detention because his date to a dance wore sneakers. At an assembly, they were told what the dress code was for boys and girls. Those Catholic schools don't play.

Because his DATE wore sneakers?
Kind of seems designed to tell me they are supposed to control what their women wear, no?

[Anonymous]

* tell men

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.holton-arms.edu/about/our-mission

Wow! I went to Catholic school and if they thought our skirt was too short, we had to kneel on the floor. If the skirt didn't touch the ground, automatic detention. They didn't care what your plans were after school that day.

My son's Catholic HS gave him detention because his date to a dance wore sneakers. At an assembly, they were told what the dress code was for boys and girls. Those Catholic schools don't play.

Because his DATE wore sneakers?
Kind of seems designed to tell me they are supposed to control what their women wear, no?

No, it means there are rules for everyone who attends, and girls who bring guys need to tell their dates the dress code, and guys who bring girls need to tell their dates the dress code.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.holton-arms.edu/about/our-mission

Wow! I went to Catholic school and if they thought our skirt was too short, we had to kneel on the floor. If the skirt didn't touch the ground, automatic detention. They didn't care what your plans were after school that day.

My son's Catholic HS gave him detention because his date to a dance wore sneakers. At an assembly, they were told what the dress code was for boys and girls. Those Catholic schools don't play.

That’s insane in the other direction. What was the footwear requirement for girls?

At our school the requirement for dances is to follow "dress code" and sneakers are not allowed in the dress code. Kind of like going to a country club and having to wear a jacket and tuck your shirt in. But unlike a CC, they don't refuse admittance, you just get detention after the fact (and, of course, no consequence for the guest at all -- if he didn't tell her, she wouldn't even know about it).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.holton-arms.edu/about/our-mission

Wow! I went to Catholic school and if they thought our skirt was too short, we had to kneel on the floor. If the skirt didn't touch the ground, automatic detention. They didn't care what your plans were after school that day.

My son's Catholic HS gave him detention because his date to a dance wore sneakers. At an assembly, they were told what the dress code was for boys and girls. Those Catholic schools don't play.

Because his DATE wore sneakers?
Kind of seems designed to tell me they are supposed to control what their women wear, no?

No. It means there is a dress code and you are responsible for your guest following the rules, like anywhere.