Do men actually want a wife? Or is marriage mostly for women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's weird. Anecdotally, I get the message that women are chasing marriage and that they get nothing out of it.

Also anecdotal but from what I see, the women who are pushing hard for marriage and have partners that are dragging feet, are in relationships where they are not getting their needs met. I think they mistakenly hope that, if they get married, their boyfriend will start showing up for them more and take the relationship more seriously.

In cases where the woman is not pushing for marriage in an ltr, they have partners that take the relationship very seriously, prioritize their partner, and are equal participants in the relationship.

I think there is a notable portion of women who want an equal partner but date guys that aren’t that and then hope marriage will fix the root issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Marriage is for both, wedding is for women. [b]Women are very territorial towards the house as well, sometimes house decor or cleaning is more important than the actual family.

Why are you generalizing this to all women? I never valued home décor or cleaning over my family!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who wouldn't want a wife? She will literally do anything!

This is the answer right here. I have no doubt that men benefit far more in marriage than women do and they know it. Marriage is a bad deal for women now.

Uh except for the fact that 90 percent of women get to live a substantially better economic lifestyle via marriage than they would if they had to pay their own way. I think women do way better in marriage than men. It’s only once they’ve been married for five years and have the kids and financial circumstances they wanted through marriage, that suddenly they claim marriage is a bad deal for them. It’s only a bad deal at that point because they got what they needed out of it already, and there’s nothing more to squeeze out of it.

Making up stats again? That’s for people with made up facts. If you had real facts you’d have real stats, and wouldn’t need to make believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who wouldn't want a wife? She will literally do anything!

This is the answer right here. I have no doubt that men benefit far more in marriage than women do and they know it. Marriage is a bad deal for women now.

Uh except for the fact that 90 percent of women get to live a substantially better economic lifestyle via marriage than they would if they had to pay their own way. I think women do way better in marriage than men. It’s only once they’ve been married for five years and have the kids and financial circumstances they wanted through marriage, that suddenly they claim marriage is a bad deal for them. It’s only a bad deal at that point because they got what they needed out of it already, and there’s nothing more to squeeze out of it.

Sounds like your mom was a good for nothing. Freeloader. Too bad she met your dad and they had to have you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that men get a lot more out of marriage than women do. Yeah, maybe more women want to get married, but men are the ones who want to stay married. Women get over that sh!t fast, lol.

+1

Marriage is for men.

Too bad younger women don't realize this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marriage is for both, wedding is for women. [b]Women are very territorial towards the house as well, sometimes house decor or cleaning is more important than the actual family.

Why are you generalizing this to all women? I never valued home décor or cleaning over my family!

+1

I hate cleaning (f that s) but love my family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who wouldn't want a wife? She will literally do anything!

This is the answer right here. I have no doubt that men benefit far more in marriage than women do and they know it. Marriage is a bad deal for women now.

Uh except for the fact that 90 percent of women get to live a substantially better economic lifestyle via marriage than they would if they had to pay their own way. I think women do way better in marriage than men. It’s only once they’ve been married for five years and have the kids and financial circumstances they wanted through marriage, that suddenly they claim marriage is a bad deal for them. It’s only a bad deal at that point because they got what they needed out of it already, and there’s nothing more to squeeze out of it.

90%!!?

lol
Cite your data bud

50% of children don’t even have a father in the picture so there’s no “economic gain” for their women or children

60% of college grads are female, for the last 10 years.

there’s 70%+ female labor force participation, even higher here in Washington DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: But once married, men tend to get quite a bit out of it,

Who are all these guys who have domestic slaves to provide cooking, child care, and on-demand sex? My marriage doesn't work like that, and I don't know any guys who are getting that.

This whole bean-counting attitude towards marriage is pernicious. Do you even like your husband? Do you value anything about him besides what he does around the house? Is there anything in your head besides this running balance sheet of "what he gets and what I get" and once it is too far in the red, from your point of view, it's divorce time?

This whole non bean-counting attitude reminds me of people who order steak, appetizer and two drinks when everyone else orders pasta and then suggest to split the bill evenly because “it all evens out over time”. Somehow it’s always the same people doing that, but who is counting, right?

I’m not. I stopped going to dinners or anywhere with con artists like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who wouldn't want a wife? She will literally do anything!

This is the answer right here. I have no doubt that men benefit far more in marriage than women do and they know it. Marriage is a bad deal for women now.

Uh except for the fact that 90 percent of women get to live a substantially better economic lifestyle via marriage than they would if they had to pay their own way. I think women do way better in marriage than men. It’s only once they’ve been married for five years and have the kids and financial circumstances they wanted through marriage, that suddenly they claim marriage is a bad deal for them. It’s only a bad deal at that point because they got what they needed out of it already, and there’s nothing more to squeeze out of it.

90%!!?

lol
Cite your data bud

50% of children don’t even have a father in the picture so there’s no “economic gain” for their women or children

60% of college grads are female, for the last 10 years.

there’s 70%+ female labor force participation, even higher here in Washington DC.

Sadly have higher student loans debt, higher default and many have studied useless majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who wouldn't want a wife? She will literally do anything!

This is the answer right here. I have no doubt that men benefit far more in marriage than women do and they know it. Marriage is a bad deal for women now.

Uh except for the fact that 90 percent of women get to live a substantially better economic lifestyle via marriage than they would if they had to pay their own way. I think women do way better in marriage than men. It’s only once they’ve been married for five years and have the kids and financial circumstances they wanted through marriage, that suddenly they claim marriage is a bad deal for them. It’s only a bad deal at that point because they got what they needed out of it already, and there’s nothing more to squeeze out of it.

90%!!?

lol
Cite your data bud

50% of children don’t even have a father in the picture so there’s no “economic gain” for their women or children

60% of college grads are female, for the last 10 years.

there’s 70%+ female labor force participation, even higher here in Washington DC.

Sadly have higher student loans debt, higher default and many have studied useless majors.

Very possible. Also possible they are part of the 40% who never marry nor have kids.

[Anonymous]

Oopsies Anchor babies are THE way to get hitched ladies!

[Anonymous]

If women truly believe marriage only(mostly) benefit men, why are so many desperate to get married?

Women today are doing amazingly well in terms of career and salary. If they want a child they can find a donor, adopt etc. They have all these options and yet many are desperately looking for a husband. But at the same time they are bombarding us with complaints about how much marriage benefits more, how they have to do all the work etc.

Nobody is forcing you. If you think marriage does not benefit you don't get married. You can have a child and endless sex without a man-child or deadbeat at home because that's how many of you characterize your husbands.

To the women grateful for their husbands congrats. Your husbands are equally grateful to have you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who wouldn't want a wife? She will literally do anything!

This is the answer right here. I have no doubt that men benefit far more in marriage than women do and they know it. Marriage is a bad deal for women now.

Uh except for the fact that 90 percent of women get to live a substantially better economic lifestyle via marriage than they would if they had to pay their own way. I think women do way better in marriage than men. It’s only once they’ve been married for five years and have the kids and financial circumstances they wanted through marriage, that suddenly they claim marriage is a bad deal for them. It’s only a bad deal at that point because they got what they needed out of it already, and there’s nothing more to squeeze out of it.

90%!!?

lol
Cite your data bud

50% of children don’t even have a father in the picture so there’s no “economic gain” for their women or children

60% of college grads are female, for the last 10 years.

there’s 70%+ female labor force participation, even higher here in Washington DC.

What's your source for that number?

[Anonymous]

I think men wanted a wife when a wife meant regular sex, cooked meals, cleaned clothes, etc. etc. Now? What can a wife give you that you can't get elsewhere?
And really women should use the same, logical thought process too.
Maybe the difference is women are more likely to want babies and want a committed partner for that. And/or the additional income/option to be a SAHM. I think there are fewer men now who are on board with that/make that a priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If women truly believe marriage only(mostly) benefit men, why are so many desperate to get married?

Women today are doing amazingly well in terms of career and salary. If they want a child they can find a donor, adopt etc. They have all these options and yet many are desperately looking for a husband. But at the same time they are bombarding us with complaints about how much marriage benefits more, how they have to do all the work etc.

Nobody is forcing you. If you think marriage does not benefit you don't get married. You can have a child and endless sex without a man-child or deadbeat at home because that's how many of you characterize your husbands.

To the women grateful for their husbands congrats. Your husbands are equally grateful to have you.

I don't think Gen Z women are desperate to get married; in fact, I think the trend is single and childless by choice.