JD Vance Catholic Convert

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're naive if you think there's anything genuine about him.

I agree that converts more generally tend to be more religious / more serious but someone with this level of meteoric rise is picking everything based on opportunism.

+1

Republicans started weaponizing religion for votes with Reagan and they are full on, they will even convert for votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just learned that JD Vance converted to Catholicism only in the past few years. As a lifelong Catholic, I am always astonished by those who come to the faith later in life. The few I know are far more devout than others I know who grew up in the Church, including myself. Is the Church finally figuring out how to reach young people?

I go to McLean Bible church and see almost every week young people choose to get baptized. These are high school/college/post college age kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just learned that JD Vance converted to Catholicism only in the past few years. As a lifelong Catholic, I am always astonished by those who come to the faith later in life. The few I know are far more devout than others I know who grew up in the Church, including myself. Is the Church finally figuring out how to reach young people?

I go to McLean Bible church and see almost every week young people choose to get baptized. These are high school/college/post college age kids.

McLean Bible church isn't Catholic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just learned that JD Vance converted to Catholicism only in the past few years. As a lifelong Catholic, I am always astonished by those who come to the faith later in life. The few I know are far more devout than others I know who grew up in the Church, including myself. Is the Church finally figuring out how to reach young people?

I go to McLean Bible church and see almost every week young people choose to get baptized. These are high school/college/post college age kids.

McLean Bible church isn't Catholic.

You asked if the church finally figuring out how to reach young people, you did not specify that you was asking about catholic church only.

[Anonymous]

McLean Bible Church doesn't practice infant baptism, so you can't assume that a teenager or adult who is being baptized there is a convert. They may have been raised in the denomination since birth.

[Anonymous]

He’s a squirrel. Everything he has done has been for political reasons.

There is nothing sincere or trustworthy about him. It’s all for votes. Kinda like Trump. Says things for shock value and votes.

His supporters are too stupid to figure it out. He’s only here to support his rich friends. Not the middle class, trailer park voters. .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s a squirrel. Everything he has done has been for political reasons.

There is nothing sincere or trustworthy about him. It’s all for votes. Kinda like Trump. Says things for shock value and votes.

His supporters are too stupid to figure it out. He’s only here to support his rich friends. Not the middle class, trailer park voters. .

Another word for this is sociopath. His conversion to Catholicism is fake. He is an atheist. Vance doesn't have supporters, that senate election was bought by McConnell and tech oligarchs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi wife is Hindu

His wife very carefully states she was raised Hindu. I haven’t seen anything about her current practices or beliefs, not that they should matter.

If she hasn’t converted they are living in sin.

This is not Catholic teaching. And you have no idea whether or not the pre-conversion marriage was subsequently convalidated (“blessed”) by the Church.

They are not married in the Catholic church and she has not converted and they have not received a dispensation to marry in the Catholic church, hence they are living in sin.

I don't care if they live in sin, i'm just saying they are.

Just like divorced and remarried people and gay people. Living in sin, according to the Catholic church.

No COMMUNION for you!

Vance married his wife in an “interfaith” ceremony in 2014.

He became a Catholic in 2019.

Because the marriage predated the conversion, no “dispensation” was required, nor could one have been granted or obtained.

The Church ordinarily recognizes the preexisting marriages of converts.

If Vance and his wife desire to they can obtain “convalidation” of their existing marriage. They may have done so. You have no idea whether or not they did.

They are not “living in sin.”

You do not know what you are talking about and should stop misrepresenting Catholic teaching and defaming people.

If he's such a devout Catholic the kids and wife would be baptized and they'd renew their vows before a Catholic priest. None of that will happen, of course, because the unethical fraud doesn't believe in anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi wife is Hindu

His wife very carefully states she was raised Hindu. I haven’t seen anything about her current practices or beliefs, not that they should matter.

Plus, you can be Hindu and also go to Catholic Church.

Her eyes were deliberately wide open and she looked straight ahead instead of bowing during moments of prayer during RNC. Usha is not a Christian. I believe I've even heard her stress this in an interview.

[Anonymous]

Makes Catholicism look bad! As if rapey priests werent enough!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Hi wife is Hindu

His wife very carefully states she was raised Hindu. I haven’t seen anything about her current practices or beliefs, not that they should matter.

If she hasn’t converted they are living in sin.

This is not Catholic teaching. And you have no idea whether or not the pre-conversion marriage was subsequently convalidated (“blessed”) by the Church.

They are not married in the Catholic church and she has not converted and they have not received a dispensation to marry in the Catholic church, hence they are living in sin.

I don't care if they live in sin, i'm just saying they are.

Just like divorced and remarried people and gay people. Living in sin, according to the Catholic church.

No COMMUNION for you!

Vance married his wife in an “interfaith” ceremony in 2014.

He became a Catholic in 2019.

Because the marriage predated the conversion, no “dispensation” was required, nor could one have been granted or obtained.

The Church ordinarily recognizes the preexisting marriages of converts.

If Vance and his wife desire to they can obtain “convalidation” of their existing marriage. They may have done so. You have no idea whether or not they did.

They are not “living in sin.”

You do not know what you are talking about and should stop misrepresenting Catholic teaching and defaming people.

If he's such a devout Catholic the kids and wife would be baptized and they'd renew their vows before a Catholic priest. None of that will happen, of course, because the unethical fraud doesn't believe in anything.

Catholics do not force people who do not believe to be baptized, even their wives. That is not a Catholic teaching. You have no idea whether they have renewed their vows.

I agree with you that he's an unethical fraud, but you can insult him without making up stuff about the religion he probably doesn't even believe in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi wife is Hindu

His wife very carefully states she was raised Hindu. I haven’t seen anything about her current practices or beliefs, not that they should matter.

If she hasn’t converted they are living in sin.

This is not Catholic teaching. And you have no idea whether or not the pre-conversion marriage was subsequently convalidated (“blessed”) by the Church.

They are not married in the Catholic church and she has not converted and they have not received a dispensation to marry in the Catholic church, hence they are living in sin.

I don't care if they live in sin, i'm just saying they are.

Just like divorced and remarried people and gay people. Living in sin, according to the Catholic church.

No COMMUNION for you!

Vance married his wife in an “interfaith” ceremony in 2014.

He became a Catholic in 2019.

Because the marriage predated the conversion, no “dispensation” was required, nor could one have been granted or obtained.

The Church ordinarily recognizes the preexisting marriages of converts.

If Vance and his wife desire to they can obtain “convalidation” of their existing marriage. They may have done so. You have no idea whether or not they did.

They are not “living in sin.”

You do not know what you are talking about and should stop misrepresenting Catholic teaching and defaming people.

If he's such a devout Catholic the kids and wife would be baptized and they'd renew their vows before a Catholic priest. None of that will happen, of course, because the unethical fraud doesn't believe in anything.

Catholics do not force people who do not believe to be baptized, even their wives. That is not a Catholic teaching. You have no idea whether they have renewed their vows.

I agree with you that he's an unethical fraud, but you can insult him without making up stuff about the religion he probably doesn't even believe in.

Totally agree with this as a Catholic married to an atheist. But it’s pretty unusual for the Catholic not jto have the kids baptized and typically insist on at least CCD thru first communion. Somewhat surprised the kids haven’t been baptized, and wonder if the oldest is in CcD. Assume he goes to a Catholic Church in del ray? Anyone ever seen him there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi wife is Hindu

His wife very carefully states she was raised Hindu. I haven’t seen anything about her current practices or beliefs, not that they should matter.

If she hasn’t converted they are living in sin.

This is not Catholic teaching. And you have no idea whether or not the pre-conversion marriage was subsequently convalidated (“blessed”) by the Church.

They are not married in the Catholic church and she has not converted and they have not received a dispensation to marry in the Catholic church, hence they are living in sin.

I don't care if they live in sin, i'm just saying they are.

Just like divorced and remarried people and gay people. Living in sin, according to the Catholic church.

No COMMUNION for you!

Vance married his wife in an “interfaith” ceremony in 2014.

He became a Catholic in 2019.

Because the marriage predated the conversion, no “dispensation” was required, nor could one have been granted or obtained.

The Church ordinarily recognizes the preexisting marriages of converts.

If Vance and his wife desire to they can obtain “convalidation” of their existing marriage. They may have done so. You have no idea whether or not they did.

They are not “living in sin.”

You do not know what you are talking about and should stop misrepresenting Catholic teaching and defaming people.

If he's such a devout Catholic the kids and wife would be baptized and they'd renew their vows before a Catholic priest. None of that will happen, of course, because the unethical fraud doesn't believe in anything.

Catholics do not force people who do not believe to be baptized, even their wives. That is not a Catholic teaching. You have no idea whether they have renewed their vows.

I agree with you that he's an unethical fraud, but you can insult him without making up stuff about the religion he probably doesn't even believe in.

Totally agree with this as a Catholic married to an atheist. But it’s pretty unusual for the Catholic not jto have the kids baptized and typically insist on at least CCD thru first communion. Somewhat surprised the kids haven’t been baptized, and wonder if the oldest is in CcD. Assume he goes to a Catholic Church in del ray? Anyone ever seen him there?

Have you found a reliable source, not DCUM, that says that the kids are or aren’t baptized? That seems to be his business.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi wife is Hindu

His wife very carefully states she was raised Hindu. I haven’t seen anything about her current practices or beliefs, not that they should matter.

If she hasn’t converted they are living in sin.

This is not Catholic teaching. And you have no idea whether or not the pre-conversion marriage was subsequently convalidated (“blessed”) by the Church.

They are not married in the Catholic church and she has not converted and they have not received a dispensation to marry in the Catholic church, hence they are living in sin.

I don't care if they live in sin, i'm just saying they are.

Just like divorced and remarried people and gay people. Living in sin, according to the Catholic church.

No COMMUNION for you!

Vance married his wife in an “interfaith” ceremony in 2014.

He became a Catholic in 2019.

Because the marriage predated the conversion, no “dispensation” was required, nor could one have been granted or obtained.

The Church ordinarily recognizes the preexisting marriages of converts.

If Vance and his wife desire to they can obtain “convalidation” of their existing marriage. They may have done so. You have no idea whether or not they did.

They are not “living in sin.”

You do not know what you are talking about and should stop misrepresenting Catholic teaching and defaming people.

If he's such a devout Catholic the kids and wife would be baptized and they'd renew their vows before a Catholic priest. None of that will happen, of course, because the unethical fraud doesn't believe in anything.

Catholics do not force people who do not believe to be baptized, even their wives. That is not a Catholic teaching. You have no idea whether they have renewed their vows.

I agree with you that he's an unethical fraud, but you can insult him without making up stuff about the religion he probably doesn't even believe in.

Totally agree with this as a Catholic married to an atheist. But it’s pretty unusual for the Catholic not jto have the kids baptized and typically insist on at least CCD thru first communion. Somewhat surprised the kids haven’t been baptized, and wonder if the oldest is in CcD. Assume he goes to a Catholic Church in del ray? Anyone ever seen him there?

Have you found a reliable source, not DCUM, that says that the kids are or aren’t baptized? That seems to be his business.

He's a public figure and exploits everything else about his life, but you think the kids are secretly Catholic?

[Anonymous]

It probably won't last. He'll move on it he sees an advantage somewhere else or if his career stalls and he hss no reason for it. It's strictly for optics and connections.