NJ mayor who is running for Congress, opposed hiring Jews

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Anonymous wrote:This is a very divisive cultural issue in NJ. I don't think most people on this thread understand the cultural dynamics at play unless they have lived in NJ at some point. Many people are very scared that a large influx of a population with very different social viewpoints (than the current residents) will create an environment that is hostile to their general way of life. People are also concerned about potential risks to women's rights due to religious beliefs regarding gender segregation. There are literally pools in NJ now that have mens only and women's only swimming hours (or even entire days). I am not sure what the solution is, but it will be very challenging to find a solution that is acceptable for both conservative religious groups the generally more secular residents currently in these NJ towns.


Ok, again, just because the minority became the majority and made some societal changes to support their conservative values doesn't make discrimination ok just because it makes you uncomfortable. Just use the pool at hours designated for you.


Discrimination is not ok but discrimination and segregation is also ok? Make up your mind


I'm saying the majority now ruling believes that genders should be separated. BTW Hasidics are not the only ones who do this. I think segregation is wrong but if I lived there I would have to fight it or move.

It still would not be right for me to discriminate to keep them off the school board or city government.


The law already has ways to handle the balance between religious accomodations and other interests. Allowing reasonable accomodations in the form of say a few hours of gender-segregated pools, is totally fine as well as its done fairly.


That's not a reasonable accomodation and you would be up in arms, as would I, if fundamentalist Muslims enacted that in an American community. I am not afraid of menstruation.


Gender segregated pool hours are already upheld in many places as a religious accomodation, which is a neutral principle of civil rights laws.

And of course the fact that you disagree with a person’s religious beliefs doesn’t mean you can discriminate against them in hiring. How many times does this need to be repeated?


Exactly. Just because someone is a Reform Jew or any other religion does not mean they can be discriminated against.


Anti-discrimination laws generally apply to the government, employers, and providers of “public accomodations” (eg hotels and restaurants.) A religious group is of course free to discriminate as are individuals.


Of course. Every house is a religious institution, nobody is married, and no income is declared because it's a religious group.


are you saying because you believe negative tropes about jews that it’s ok to refuse to hire jews?


Not Jews. A supremacist religious fundamentalist sub sect no different than the Taliban, Westboro Baptist Church, or FLDS.

Those things are also all true for this fundamentalist offshoot.

How can or should the broader community of Rockland County counter this group in a way that's acceptable to you?


This is about a public official openly saying he would refuse to hire someone due to their religion. That’s wrong if the person is Hasidic, Mormon, or anything else. Equating Hasids with the Taliban is something else …

Once again: the strength of your dislike of a religion does NOT mean you get to discriminate against those individuals in employment. Taking action against someone because you dislike their religion is literally the definition of discrimination.


I have no qualms about saying I dislike and have a bias against religious fundamentalists of all varieties. This is not about Judaism. It is about a bastardized offshoot.

Complaining about FLDS is not anti-Mormon. Complaining about the Westboro Baptist Church is not anti-Christian. Complaining about the Taliban is not anti-Muslim. Complaining about Bodu Bala Sena is not anti-Buddhist. Complaining about the RSS is not anti-Hindu. Complaining about the ultra-Orthodox is not anti-Jewish.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.

The Amish aren’t taking control of local government.

Generally the religious or ethnic makeup of a local populace is what’s reflected in the local government. You say this as if it’s some grand conspiracy. Rockland County has the largest Jewish population in the US. Of course the local government would have Jews as members.


And generally the point of the school board is to look out for the best interests of students with regards to public funds. the difference is these people use their big voting block to get on the school board and work against non jewish students by defunding and closing schools. i don’t see any other community doing this. not amish, not fundamental christian, not muslims. and to get back to the point of the thread, i would bet money this mayor doesn’t just hate jewish people, rather he doesn’t want soemthing like that to happen in his town


By saying don’t hire or sell houses to the “guys in big hats”? Nah, we all know what that meant.

Except that those guys in big hats won't sell to anybody outside their community.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.

The Amish aren’t taking control of local government.

Generally the religious or ethnic makeup of a local populace is what’s reflected in the local government. You say this as if it’s some grand conspiracy. Rockland County has the largest Jewish population in the US. Of course the local government would have Jews as members.


And generally the point of the school board is to look out for the best interests of students with regards to public funds. the difference is these people use their big voting block to get on the school board and work against non jewish students by defunding and closing schools. i don’t see any other community doing this. not amish, not fundamental christian, not muslims. and to get back to the point of the thread, i would bet money this mayor doesn’t just hate jewish people, rather he doesn’t want soemthing like that to happen in his town

+1 his comments were not about all Jewish people, they were about Hasidim.


For the millionth time, state & federal civil rights law do not allow you to bar people from public employment or home ownership because you dislike or even fear their religious group.


Then why are you defending instead of criticizing the sub-sect in question?
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.


No, because the Amish do not try and impose their beliefs on other people. That is the key difference.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a very divisive cultural issue in NJ. I don't think most people on this thread understand the cultural dynamics at play unless they have lived in NJ at some point. Many people are very scared that a large influx of a population with very different social viewpoints (than the current residents) will create an environment that is hostile to their general way of life. People are also concerned about potential risks to women's rights due to religious beliefs regarding gender segregation. There are literally pools in NJ now that have mens only and women's only swimming hours (or even entire days). I am not sure what the solution is, but it will be very challenging to find a solution that is acceptable for both conservative religious groups the generally more secular residents currently in these NJ towns.


Ok, again, just because the minority became the majority and made some societal changes to support their conservative values doesn't make discrimination ok just because it makes you uncomfortable. Just use the pool at hours designated for you.


Discrimination is not ok but discrimination and segregation is also ok? Make up your mind


I'm saying the majority now ruling believes that genders should be separated. BTW Hasidics are not the only ones who do this. I think segregation is wrong but if I lived there I would have to fight it or move.

It still would not be right for me to discriminate to keep them off the school board or city government.


The law already has ways to handle the balance between religious accomodations and other interests. Allowing reasonable accomodations in the form of say a few hours of gender-segregated pools, is totally fine as well as its done fairly.


That's not a reasonable accomodation and you would be up in arms, as would I, if fundamentalist Muslims enacted that in an American community. I am not afraid of menstruation.


Gender segregated pool hours are already upheld in many places as a religious accomodation, which is a neutral principle of civil rights laws.

And of course the fact that you disagree with a person’s religious beliefs doesn’t mean you can discriminate against them in hiring. How many times does this need to be repeated?


Exactly. Just because someone is a Reform Jew or any other religion does not mean they can be discriminated against.


Anti-discrimination laws generally apply to the government, employers, and providers of “public accomodations” (eg hotels and restaurants.) A religious group is of course free to discriminate as are individuals.


Of course. Every house is a religious institution, nobody is married, and no income is declared because it's a religious group.


are you saying because you believe negative tropes about jews that it’s ok to refuse to hire jews?


Not Jews. A supremacist religious fundamentalist sub sect no different than the Taliban, Westboro Baptist Church, or FLDS.

Those things are also all true for this fundamentalist offshoot.

How can or should the broader community of Rockland County counter this group in a way that's acceptable to you?


This is about a public official openly saying he would refuse to hire someone due to their religion. That’s wrong if the person is Hasidic, Mormon, or anything else. Equating Hasids with the Taliban is something else …

Once again: the strength of your dislike of a religion does NOT mean you get to discriminate against those individuals in employment. Taking action against someone because you dislike their religion is literally the definition of discrimination.


I have no qualms about saying I dislike and have a bias against religious fundamentalists of all varieties. This is not about Judaism. It is about a bastardized offshoot.

Complaining about FLDS is not anti-Mormon. Complaining about the Westboro Baptist Church is not anti-Christian. Complaining about the Taliban is not anti-Muslim. Complaining about Bodu Bala Sena is not anti-Buddhist. Complaining about the RSS is not anti-Hindu. Complaining about the ultra-Orthodox is not anti-Jewish.


They aren’t the equivalent of Westboro or FLDS, ffs. Complaining about the “bad Jews” may not seem anti-semitic to you, but refusing to sell someone a house or give them a job due to their religion is absolutely illegal. Local governments have tried all sorts of tactics to repress both Muslim and Jewish local communities and they invariably end up paying out large settlements.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.


No, because the Amish do not try and impose their beliefs on other people. That is the key difference.


The Hasidic are not trying to impose their beliefs on anyone. Please provide examples of this. You may disagree with how local government is run but that doesn’t mean anyone is imposing beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.

The Amish aren’t taking control of local government.

Generally the religious or ethnic makeup of a local populace is what’s reflected in the local government. You say this as if it’s some grand conspiracy. Rockland County has the largest Jewish population in the US. Of course the local government would have Jews as members.


And generally the point of the school board is to look out for the best interests of students with regards to public funds. the difference is these people use their big voting block to get on the school board and work against non jewish students by defunding and closing schools. i don’t see any other community doing this. not amish, not fundamental christian, not muslims. and to get back to the point of the thread, i would bet money this mayor doesn’t just hate jewish people, rather he doesn’t want soemthing like that to happen in his town

+1 his comments were not about all Jewish people, they were about Hasidim.


For the millionth time, state & federal civil rights law do not allow you to bar people from public employment or home ownership because you dislike or even fear their religious group.


Then why are you defending instead of criticizing the sub-sect in question?


Because the thread is about government officials apparently conspiring to keep people from getting government jobs or buying houses due to their religious affiliation.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a very divisive cultural issue in NJ. I don't think most people on this thread understand the cultural dynamics at play unless they have lived in NJ at some point. Many people are very scared that a large influx of a population with very different social viewpoints (than the current residents) will create an environment that is hostile to their general way of life. People are also concerned about potential risks to women's rights due to religious beliefs regarding gender segregation. There are literally pools in NJ now that have mens only and women's only swimming hours (or even entire days). I am not sure what the solution is, but it will be very challenging to find a solution that is acceptable for both conservative religious groups the generally more secular residents currently in these NJ towns.


Ok, again, just because the minority became the majority and made some societal changes to support their conservative values doesn't make discrimination ok just because it makes you uncomfortable. Just use the pool at hours designated for you.


Discrimination is not ok but discrimination and segregation is also ok? Make up your mind


I'm saying the majority now ruling believes that genders should be separated. BTW Hasidics are not the only ones who do this. I think segregation is wrong but if I lived there I would have to fight it or move.

It still would not be right for me to discriminate to keep them off the school board or city government.


The law already has ways to handle the balance between religious accomodations and other interests. Allowing reasonable accomodations in the form of say a few hours of gender-segregated pools, is totally fine as well as its done fairly.


That's not a reasonable accomodation and you would be up in arms, as would I, if fundamentalist Muslims enacted that in an American community. I am not afraid of menstruation.


Gender segregated pool hours are already upheld in many places as a religious accomodation, which is a neutral principle of civil rights laws.

And of course the fact that you disagree with a person’s religious beliefs doesn’t mean you can discriminate against them in hiring. How many times does this need to be repeated?


Exactly. Just because someone is a Reform Jew or any other religion does not mean they can be discriminated against.


Anti-discrimination laws generally apply to the government, employers, and providers of “public accomodations” (eg hotels and restaurants.) A religious group is of course free to discriminate as are individuals.


Of course. Every house is a religious institution, nobody is married, and no income is declared because it's a religious group.


are you saying because you believe negative tropes about jews that it’s ok to refuse to hire jews?


Not Jews. A supremacist religious fundamentalist sub sect no different than the Taliban, Westboro Baptist Church, or FLDS.

Those things are also all true for this fundamentalist offshoot.

How can or should the broader community of Rockland County counter this group in a way that's acceptable to you?


This is about a public official openly saying he would refuse to hire someone due to their religion. That’s wrong if the person is Hasidic, Mormon, or anything else. Equating Hasids with the Taliban is something else …

Once again: the strength of your dislike of a religion does NOT mean you get to discriminate against those individuals in employment. Taking action against someone because you dislike their religion is literally the definition of discrimination.


I have no qualms about saying I dislike and have a bias against religious fundamentalists of all varieties. This is not about Judaism. It is about a bastardized offshoot.

Complaining about FLDS is not anti-Mormon. Complaining about the Westboro Baptist Church is not anti-Christian. Complaining about the Taliban is not anti-Muslim. Complaining about Bodu Bala Sena is not anti-Buddhist. Complaining about the RSS is not anti-Hindu. Complaining about the ultra-Orthodox is not anti-Jewish.


Actually, the majority of Jews, including myself, are the bastardized offshoots.
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.


No, because the Amish do not try and impose their beliefs on other people. That is the key difference.


The Hasidic are not trying to impose their beliefs on anyone. Please provide examples of this. You may disagree with how local government is run but that doesn’t mean anyone is imposing beliefs.



gender segregated buses and pools
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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.


No, because the Amish do not try and impose their beliefs on other people. That is the key difference.


The Hasidic are not trying to impose their beliefs on anyone. Please provide examples of this. You may disagree with how local government is run but that doesn’t mean anyone is imposing beliefs.



gender segregated buses and pools


are you against all gender segregation? no women’s bathrooms?

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the people her who have such disdain for the Hasidic Jews feel the same way about the Amish. The Amish send their kids to religious private school and they only get schooled up until 8th grade. The state allows this because they consider working vocational training. If you were to give an Amish child a standardized test they’d probably fail it and their first language is also not English. In places with large Amish populations the school district suffers a lack of sufficient public school funding because they don’t have enough students attending to reasonably support the school.


No, because the Amish do not try and impose their beliefs on other people. That is the key difference.


The Hasidic are not trying to impose their beliefs on anyone. Please provide examples of this. You may disagree with how local government is run but that doesn’t mean anyone is imposing beliefs.



gender segregated buses and pools

Muslim/Islamic private schools have gender separated buses and pools.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a very divisive cultural issue in NJ. I don't think most people on this thread understand the cultural dynamics at play unless they have lived in NJ at some point. Many people are very scared that a large influx of a population with very different social viewpoints (than the current residents) will create an environment that is hostile to their general way of life. People are also concerned about potential risks to women's rights due to religious beliefs regarding gender segregation. There are literally pools in NJ now that have mens only and women's only swimming hours (or even entire days). I am not sure what the solution is, but it will be very challenging to find a solution that is acceptable for both conservative religious groups the generally more secular residents currently in these NJ towns.


Ok, again, just because the minority became the majority and made some societal changes to support their conservative values doesn't make discrimination ok just because it makes you uncomfortable. Just use the pool at hours designated for you.


Discrimination is not ok but discrimination and segregation is also ok? Make up your mind


I'm saying the majority now ruling believes that genders should be separated. BTW Hasidics are not the only ones who do this. I think segregation is wrong but if I lived there I would have to fight it or move.

It still would not be right for me to discriminate to keep them off the school board or city government.


The law already has ways to handle the balance between religious accomodations and other interests. Allowing reasonable accomodations in the form of say a few hours of gender-segregated pools, is totally fine as well as its done fairly.


That's not a reasonable accomodation and you would be up in arms, as would I, if fundamentalist Muslims enacted that in an American community. I am not afraid of menstruation.


Gender segregated pool hours are already upheld in many places as a religious accomodation, which is a neutral principle of civil rights laws.

And of course the fact that you disagree with a person’s religious beliefs doesn’t mean you can discriminate against them in hiring. How many times does this need to be repeated?


Exactly. Just because someone is a Reform Jew or any other religion does not mean they can be discriminated against.


Anti-discrimination laws generally apply to the government, employers, and providers of “public accomodations” (eg hotels and restaurants.) A religious group is of course free to discriminate as are individuals.


Of course. Every house is a religious institution, nobody is married, and no income is declared because it's a religious group.


are you saying because you believe negative tropes about jews that it’s ok to refuse to hire jews?


Not Jews. A supremacist religious fundamentalist sub sect no different than the Taliban, Westboro Baptist Church, or FLDS.

Those things are also all true for this fundamentalist offshoot.

How can or should the broader community of Rockland County counter this group in a way that's acceptable to you?


+1. Many of these PPs have no problem screaming down Westboro Baptist Church, Mormon groups, Branch Davidians, or similarly extremist lunatics, but when it comes to the extremist Hasidim, they are appalled.
As a private employer, I would never hire any of the above. Religious extremism in all of its forms is detrimental to a democratic, educated society. And the Hasidim have proved again and again that they are intent on destroying it.


Not that I agree, but if you listen to the podcast, the Hasidics wanted more SPED $ for their kids given the property taxes they were paying for years. The law says if those kids are getting the services, they needed to be in a public setting. They wanted to keep their kids in private so set about changing the law. Now that their kids were the majority of children in their district, they ran and got elected, found a lawyer who found a loophole.

How long will we be able the kingdom the way it is? In my community, for the kids who are now the majority, soccer is preferred to American football if they play a sport at all. Many of the girls don't play sports. How long before people decide they don't want the costs of sports their kids don't like or even play? Who is going to pay for the upkeep of football stadiums, uniforms &coaches, etc? They may prefer to spend the money on other things that benefit them. The 15-20% who enjoy things will eventually see them get dropped from budgets.
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Anonymous wrote:the context is what has happened in other school districts like in rockland county. the jews all vote en bloc, they put a bunch of jewish people on the school board and completely defund the public schools and funnel money to private schools (their kids go to private religious school). Its absolutely horrifying and i don't blame this guy for not wanting it in his town.


Straight up anti-Semitic conspiracy theories? Is this really what has become “okay” on DCUM?

The community voted for several school board measures, who put in place certain rules and regulations (based on what they ran on). You can disagree with those policies, that is fine, but to actively discriminate against hiring Jewish people because of some wacko conspiracy that all Jewish people have some secret agenda… That is just pure anti-Semitism, and not even well hidden anti-Semitism.

Plus, many Christian school board members have the exact same goals, just with Christian schools. Should we refuse to hire any Christian teachers as well? Only allow school staff that are atheist?
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Anonymous wrote:the context is what has happened in other school districts like in rockland county. the jews all vote en bloc, they put a bunch of jewish people on the school board and completely defund the public schools and funnel money to private schools (their kids go to private religious school). Its absolutely horrifying and i don't blame this guy for not wanting it in his town.


Straight up anti-Semitic conspiracy theories? Is this really what has become “okay” on DCUM?

The community voted for several school board measures, who put in place certain rules and regulations (based on what they ran on). You can disagree with those policies, that is fine, but to actively discriminate against hiring Jewish people because of some wacko conspiracy that all Jewish people have some secret agenda… That is just pure anti-Semitism, and not even well hidden anti-Semitism.

Plus, many Christian school board members have the exact same goals, just with Christian schools. Should we refuse to hire any Christian teachers as well? Only allow school staff that are atheist?


Exactly. Judging individuals based on your perception of the group is straight up prejudice. Not to mention that Hasidic Jews are actually frequent hate crime victims.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a very divisive cultural issue in NJ. I don't think most people on this thread understand the cultural dynamics at play unless they have lived in NJ at some point. Many people are very scared that a large influx of a population with very different social viewpoints (than the current residents) will create an environment that is hostile to their general way of life. People are also concerned about potential risks to women's rights due to religious beliefs regarding gender segregation. There are literally pools in NJ now that have mens only and women's only swimming hours (or even entire days). I am not sure what the solution is, but it will be very challenging to find a solution that is acceptable for both conservative religious groups the generally more secular residents currently in these NJ towns.


Ok, again, just because the minority became the majority and made some societal changes to support their conservative values doesn't make discrimination ok just because it makes you uncomfortable. Just use the pool at hours designated for you.


Discrimination is not ok but discrimination and segregation is also ok? Make up your mind


I'm saying the majority now ruling believes that genders should be separated. BTW Hasidics are not the only ones who do this. I think segregation is wrong but if I lived there I would have to fight it or move.

It still would not be right for me to discriminate to keep them off the school board or city government.


The law already has ways to handle the balance between religious accomodations and other interests. Allowing reasonable accomodations in the form of say a few hours of gender-segregated pools, is totally fine as well as its done fairly.


That's not a reasonable accomodation and you would be up in arms, as would I, if fundamentalist Muslims enacted that in an American community. I am not afraid of menstruation.


Gender segregated pool hours are already upheld in many places as a religious accomodation, which is a neutral principle of civil rights laws.

And of course the fact that you disagree with a person’s religious beliefs doesn’t mean you can discriminate against them in hiring. How many times does this need to be repeated?


Exactly. Just because someone is a Reform Jew or any other religion does not mean they can be discriminated against.


Anti-discrimination laws generally apply to the government, employers, and providers of “public accomodations” (eg hotels and restaurants.) A religious group is of course free to discriminate as are individuals.


Of course. Every house is a religious institution, nobody is married, and no income is declared because it's a religious group.


are you saying because you believe negative tropes about jews that it’s ok to refuse to hire jews?


Not Jews. A supremacist religious fundamentalist sub sect no different than the Taliban, Westboro Baptist Church, or FLDS.

Those things are also all true for this fundamentalist offshoot.

How can or should the broader community of Rockland County counter this group in a way that's acceptable to you?


+1. Many of these PPs have no problem screaming down Westboro Baptist Church, Mormon groups, Branch Davidians, or similarly extremist lunatics, but when it comes to the extremist Hasidim, they are appalled.
As a private employer, I would never hire any of the above. Religious extremism in all of its forms is detrimental to a democratic, educated society. And the Hasidim have proved again and again that they are intent on destroying it.


Not that I agree, but if you listen to the podcast, the Hasidics wanted more SPED $ for their kids given the property taxes they were paying for years. The law says if those kids are getting the services, they needed to be in a public setting. They wanted to keep their kids in private so set about changing the law. Now that their kids were the majority of children in their district, they ran and got elected, found a lawyer who found a loophole.

How long will we be able the kingdom the way it is? In my community, for the kids who are now the majority, soccer is preferred to American football if they play a sport at all. Many of the girls don't play sports. How long before people decide they don't want the costs of sports their kids don't like or even play? Who is going to pay for the upkeep of football stadiums, uniforms &coaches, etc? They may prefer to spend the money on other things that benefit them. The 15-20% who enjoy things will eventually see them get dropped from budgets.


I have news for you - kids in DC have the right to SPED services if they are in private school too. As far as football goes, it absorbs a diseproportionate amount of sports funding. How is that fair?
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