The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain in a non partisan way the Republican talking points on why they want to defund the war in Ukraine and not Israel?

Hamas has connections to many other terrorist organizations who hate the US (and they hate us, too) and we’re not big fans of Islamic terrorists.
Ukraine needs to be more transparent with their $ and also we’re bored of them.

Wrong. Evangelistic Christians though declining still have a large influence on republican politicians. Israel is one of their top issues for some reason. The Jewish vote is irrelevant because it is so small and in noncontested states.

The republicans and conservatives hate Ukrainians because they did not manufacture fake propaganda on Hunter. Now the argument used against the Ukraine funding(corruption, too much money, Ukraine is not a real country, etc) have started to be applied to Israel. I do not think Israel’s funding is as safe as people think.

for some reason? Please google "the rapture"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

We get relative global peace so people can travel the world and experience different cultures, we get stability that creates a leisure class to probe the arts and sciences and we get global markets that benefit US companies and workers.

Global peace, what planet are you on ?

We are on a fight on European and Middle Eastern land right now. We are fighting Iranians, Russians, and Chinese. This president is dangerous and has us closer to WW3 than anybody ever before. He does not know how to negotiate or maneuver. Time for him to retire. It’s elder abuse to elect him President

Because Putin. If Trump and the GOP are not in his pocket, NONE of this would be happening. You blame Biden, but if all started LONG before he came into office and a lot of the sparks started BECAUSE he beat Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

Then you don't understand anything.

The money in aid goes from the US treasury to US defense contractors to build more arms that go into the US depot. The current arms in the US depot that are set to expire for non-use, will be sent to Ukraine for the Ukrainians to use against the Russians. There is no "money transfer" that you infer, that happens where Putin would get a cut.

So much of our voters do not understand this! Who will educate them? Asking sincerely.

Hopefully it starts with people reading it in this forum and googling it or asking around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

Then you don't understand anything.

The money in aid goes from the US treasury to US defense contractors to build more arms that go into the US depot. The current arms in the US depot that are set to expire for non-use, will be sent to Ukraine for the Ukrainians to use against the Russians. There is no "money transfer" that you infer, that happens where Putin would get a cut.

So much of our voters do not understand this! Who will educate them? Asking sincerely.

OK, so federal tax revenues, derived in major part from the taxes remitted by U.S. taxpayers, are essentially converted into corporate welfare programs whereby Lockheed Martin shareholders and other defense contractor stakeholders in the U.S. military industrial complex are able to recognize a wealth transfer as our taxes are converted into their paychecks, profits, and retained earnings?

Cool, sounds like orchestrated fraud when you put it that way ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

Then you don't understand anything.

The money in aid goes from the US treasury to US defense contractors to build more arms that go into the US depot. The current arms in the US depot that are set to expire for non-use, will be sent to Ukraine for the Ukrainians to use against the Russians. There is no "money transfer" that you infer, that happens where Putin would get a cut.

So much of our voters do not understand this! Who will educate them? Asking sincerely.

OK, so federal tax revenues, derived in major part from the taxes remitted by U.S. taxpayers, are essentially converted into corporate welfare programs whereby Lockheed Martin shareholders and other defense contractor stakeholders in the U.S. military industrial complex are able to recognize a wealth transfer as our taxes are converted into their paychecks, profits, and retained earnings?

Cool, sounds like orchestrated fraud when you put it that way ...

They are being paid to manufacture weapons. That isn't fraud, there is a contract. Fraud is when there are PPP loans given with no oversight to every tom dick and harry including members of congress and presidential cronies. BILLIONS given away in April 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

Then you don't understand anything.

The money in aid goes from the US treasury to US defense contractors to build more arms that go into the US depot. The current arms in the US depot that are set to expire for non-use, will be sent to Ukraine for the Ukrainians to use against the Russians. There is no "money transfer" that you infer, that happens where Putin would get a cut.

So much of our voters do not understand this! Who will educate them? Asking sincerely.

OK, so federal tax revenues, derived in major part from the taxes remitted by U.S. taxpayers, are essentially converted into corporate welfare programs whereby Lockheed Martin shareholders and other defense contractor stakeholders in the U.S. military industrial complex are able to recognize a wealth transfer as our taxes are converted into their paychecks, profits, and retained earnings?

Cool, sounds like orchestrated fraud when you put it that way ...

They are being paid to manufacture weapons. That isn't fraud, there is a contract. Fraud is when there are PPP loans given with no oversight to every tom dick and harry including members of congress and presidential cronies. BILLIONS given away in April 2020.

Yeah, you're not going to get an objection to the PPP debacle from me. Preach on that, for sure.

But as to the welfare accusation, I disagree. We allow rampant lobbying, literally hundreds of millions spent to goose these weirdoes on Capitol Hill, so they can send billions that we don't have to a foreign country. That foreign country, in turn, spends parts of those billions with our defense contractors? How is that not taking taxpayer funding and redirecting it to the interests of the groups that lobbied for it? The ROI for the lobbyists is astronomical!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

"he and Putin are in on this together"? Seriously? Ukrainians are dying to protect, ironically, Europe and yes - democracy in the United States.

But if you feel that this is not cost-effective versus spilling blood, then you're far more cold-blooded than you let on. Anyone standing for Putin is standing for rape, kidnapping, murder, sledgehammers.. People like you who support Putin are what's wrong with the world. You're the ones who looked the other way in World War II. The silent supporters of the Sturmabteilung. The weak of heart who stood by as Poland was invaded. Take care that history does not repeat itself, my friend. The weapons now are far more deadly. The technology far more efficient. The memories of crimes far easier to record and punish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

Then you don't understand anything.

The money in aid goes from the US treasury to US defense contractors to build more arms that go into the US depot. The current arms in the US depot that are set to expire for non-use, will be sent to Ukraine for the Ukrainians to use against the Russians. There is no "money transfer" that you infer, that happens where Putin would get a cut.

So much of our voters do not understand this! Who will educate them? Asking sincerely.

Hopefully it starts with people reading it in this forum and googling it or asking around.

More people need to read history books. As well as read current events. Sign off social media and just read. But they claim they have no time to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So depressing as we grind toward WW3.

Isn't the whole point to avoid one by funding countries against aggression by dictatorship and terrorism?

Is that the whole point? Or is this to expand our power and control across the world and continue to mint money in the weapons and defense sector?

We have teachers in niche stem fields leaving teaching to go work at defense companies in NoVa and elsewhere. There goes the future of our students!

[Anonymous]

Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine.

Multiple plans using lawfare are being put in place through the fifth column to knee cap President Trump should he win in 2024. Cass Sunstein is crafting the border legislation so it cannot be undone, legislation is being implemented not to allow an exit from or changes to NATO or the UN, legislation to forbid the use of Schedule F to dismantle the dictatorship via bureaucracy and SES, ditto the Science/Health Technocracy etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

Then you don't understand anything.

The money in aid goes from the US treasury to US defense contractors to build more arms that go into the US depot. The current arms in the US depot that are set to expire for non-use, will be sent to Ukraine for the Ukrainians to use against the Russians. There is no "money transfer" that you infer, that happens where Putin would get a cut.

I don’t know if you’re joking or serious . Military aid is only a sector of foreign aid. There’s also humanitarian aid. Arms are also currency in the same way drugs are. Better than cash and can be sold to anybody wanting arms like Palestinians for example. Zelensky and Putin are not enemies . I stand by this

Do you have any, you know, proof?

Intuition . I just think Zelensky is a double agent . His friendliness with NeoNazi Ukrainians , and semi downplaying of 10/7 to turn attention back to Ukraine when he is Jewish shows he has no scruples or morals in my opinion

[Anonymous]

Zelensky is also an actor and comedian by trade

He had a comedy show before being “elected” President

[Anonymous]

The crackhead son of the President does some wheeling and dealing with Ukrainian energy companies yet Washington white collar cubicle handmaidens want us to think the foreign aid sent to Ukraine is normal and not corrupt at all. If Hunter “speedballing coke between his toes” Biden was Trumps son, we wouldn’t hear the end of the media handwringing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine.

Multiple plans using lawfare are being put in place through the fifth column to knee cap President Trump should he win in 2024. Cass Sunstein is crafting the border legislation so it cannot be undone, legislation is being implemented not to allow an exit from or changes to NATO or the UN, legislation to forbid the use of Schedule F to dismantle the dictatorship via bureaucracy and SES, ditto the Science/Health Technocracy etc.

Sorry but you and Trump are on the wrong side where it comes to NATO, federal workforce, science and technology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust Zelensky. If you ask me, I think he and Putin are in on this together so Putin can get a cut of the US money to Ukraine to fund this “war”.

That’s what I believe. We got fooled by Pakistanis the same way with “counterterrorism” funds . Let’s not get started with Israel.

The whole world knows we are foolish. We just give give give and get nothing in return but Europeans making fun of us when he have to pay for their defense . Trump is right about America first . Our country is in squalor and the migrants and foreign nations are not our first responsibility

Then you don't understand anything.

The money in aid goes from the US treasury to US defense contractors to build more arms that go into the US depot. The current arms in the US depot that are set to expire for non-use, will be sent to Ukraine for the Ukrainians to use against the Russians. There is no "money transfer" that you infer, that happens where Putin would get a cut.

I don’t know if you’re joking or serious . Military aid is only a sector of foreign aid. There’s also humanitarian aid. Arms are also currency in the same way drugs are. Better than cash and can be sold to anybody wanting arms like Palestinians for example. Zelensky and Putin are not enemies . I stand by this

Do you have any, you know, proof?

Intuition . I just think Zelensky is a double agent . His friendliness with NeoNazi Ukrainians , and semi downplaying of 10/7 to turn attention back to Ukraine when he is Jewish shows he has no scruples or morals in my opinion

Russian trolls are out in force tonight