The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

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Anonymous wrote:Neo-nazi groups in Russia (partial list)

Werewolf Legion
Schultz-88
Mad Crowd
National Socialist Party of Russia
Saviour
White Society-88
Ryno-Skachevsky gang
BORN
Volkssturm
Lincoln-88
NS/WP Nevograd
The Cleaners
Atomwaffen Division Russland
Rusich Group


And it's not "irrelevant fringe" - a ton of Russian neo-Nazis have been serving as high ranking officers on the front line in Ukraine having awards pinned on them for killing innocents, for killing jews, for killing civilians, and anyone else....

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Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.


Amazing how quickly the lessons of 1938 are forgotten. Republican isolationists would have us believe that totalitarianism “over there” doesn’t threaten our own peace and prosperity.
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Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.


Amazing how quickly the lessons of 1938 are forgotten. Republican isolationists would have us believe that totalitarianism “over there” doesn’t threaten our own peace and prosperity.


It’s not just Republicans that are isolationist. Many progressives are as well. Obama and Trump won their separate party nominations largely due to their anti Iraq war stance. That’s what made them stand out from the dozen candidates running. If I remember correctly , Biden was one of the pro Iraq Democrats . What does this mean? Both Republican and Democrats do not want war or war candidates winning elections .

No, totalitarianism doesn’t threaten our own peace and prosperity. Do you know how many dictators are our friends?

The lessons of 1938 were never learned. . Israel hasn’t learned it or at least it doesn’t matter to them. Inviting Nazis from Ukraine to tour their country while arresting or killing Palestinian children is what they preferred doing
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.


Amazing how quickly the lessons of 1938 are forgotten. Republican isolationists would have us believe that totalitarianism “over there” doesn’t threaten our own peace and prosperity.


It’s not just Republicans that are isolationist. Many progressives are as well. Obama and Trump won their separate party nominations largely due to their anti Iraq war stance. That’s what made them stand out from the dozen candidates running. If I remember correctly , Biden was one of the pro Iraq Democrats . What does this mean? Both Republican and Democrats do not want war or war candidates winning elections .

No, totalitarianism doesn’t threaten our own peace and prosperity. Do you know how many dictators are our friends?

The lessons of 1938 were never learned. . Israel hasn’t learned it or at least it doesn’t matter to them. Inviting Nazis from Ukraine to tour their country while arresting or killing Palestinian children is what they preferred doing


That is because the Iraq war was mostly manufactured pretense to compensaate for Saddam's attempt on Bush41's life and nothing to do with Weapons or Mass Destruction.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.


Huh? Are you still trying to peddle the repeatedly debunked and disproven "corrupt Zelensky's yachts and mansions" nonsense?
There's nothing at all "very realistic" about anything you haveto say.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.


Huh? Are you still trying to peddle the repeatedly debunked and disproven "corrupt Zelensky's yachts and mansions" nonsense?
There's nothing at all "very realistic" about anything you haveto say.


Surely, you don’t believe Zelensky is some altruist who took a vow of poverty and is leading a battle for truth and democracy and justice .

A few months ago Kiev’s mayor blasted Zelensky for his burgeoning authoritarianism , and Swiss intelligence leaked a report saying Zelensky is becoming autocratic . Are the Swiss a Putin asset as well? Switzerland left their long famed neutrality to back Ukraine and go against Putin.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/zelensky-showing-authoritarian-traits-says-swiss-intelligence-report/48652496
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.


Amazing how quickly the lessons of 1938 are forgotten. Republican isolationists would have us believe that totalitarianism “over there” doesn’t threaten our own peace and prosperity.

+1 from the GOP chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.


It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less


That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.


No, this is actually a very realistic view of what’s going on in 99% of American battlegrounds for democracy.
Americans are held for gullible rich daddies and the real agenda is stealing as much funding as possible.


Amazing how quickly the lessons of 1938 are forgotten. Republican isolationists would have us believe that totalitarianism “over there” doesn’t threaten our own peace and prosperity.

+1 from the GOP chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee

And what is the misinformation fueled by, Congressman?
Anonymous
Heather Cox Richardson does a good job of putting Congressional Ukraine aid efforts in context.

The Biden administration requested it in October. A majority of Senators and House members support providing the aid. Nevertheless, the House Speaker bent to the will of the MAGA minority and refused to consider aiding Ukraine without a border package.

Folks who see Ukraine aid as critical to national and world security went to work. They came up with a border deal. Trump and the MAGA minority killed it (despite support from the border patrol officers union) because they'd rather not do anything to strengthen the border.

The Senate went to work and passed an aid package that didn't include the border. "[Speaker] Johnson indicated he would not take it up, right about the same time that Trump renewed his attack on the North Atlantic Treaty Organization that underpins U.S. and global security."

And now, rather than address the security bill, Speaker Johnson has recessed the House.

"As Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan of Punchbowl News reported: “This is the most chaotic, inefficient and ineffective majority we’ve seen in decades covering Congress. It started this way under former Speaker Kevin McCarthy and has gotten worse under Johnson.”"
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Anonymous wrote:Heather Cox Richardson does a good job of putting Congressional Ukraine aid efforts in context.

The Biden administration requested it in October. A majority of Senators and House members support providing the aid. Nevertheless, the House Speaker bent to the will of the MAGA minority and refused to consider aiding Ukraine without a border package.

Folks who see Ukraine aid as critical to national and world security went to work. They came up with a border deal. Trump and the MAGA minority killed it (despite support from the border patrol officers union) because they'd rather not do anything to strengthen the border.

The Senate went to work and passed an aid package that didn't include the border. "[Speaker] Johnson indicated he would not take it up, right about the same time that Trump renewed his attack on the North Atlantic Treaty Organization that underpins U.S. and global security."

And now, rather than address the security bill, Speaker Johnson has recessed the House.

"As Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan of Punchbowl News reported: “This is the most chaotic, inefficient and ineffective majority we’ve seen in decades covering Congress. It started this way under former Speaker Kevin McCarthy and has gotten worse under Johnson.”"


Link to this piece: https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/february-15-2024
Anonymous
Yet another mistake........

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Heather Cox Richardson does a good job of putting Congressional Ukraine aid efforts in context.

The Biden administration requested it in October. A majority of Senators and House members support providing the aid. Nevertheless, the House Speaker bent to the will of the MAGA minority and refused to consider aiding Ukraine without a border package.

Folks who see Ukraine aid as critical to national and world security went to work. They came up with a border deal. Trump and the MAGA minority killed it (despite support from the border patrol officers union) because they'd rather not do anything to strengthen the border.

The Senate went to work and passed an aid package that didn't include the border. "[Speaker] Johnson indicated he would not take it up, right about the same time that Trump renewed his attack on the North Atlantic Treaty Organization that underpins U.S. and global security."

And now, rather than address the security bill, Speaker Johnson has recessed the House.

"As Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan of Punchbowl News reported: “This is the most chaotic, inefficient and ineffective majority we’ve seen in decades covering Congress. It started this way under former Speaker Kevin McCarthy and has gotten worse under Johnson.”"


I like heather but she is wrong that a majority of reps support the package

If they did, Jeffries could use a discharge petition to bring it to the house floor over Johnson’s head

The votes aren’t there for a discharge petition to be successful so the whip counts are not what people in the media say they are
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