The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

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Neo-nazi groups in Russia (partial list)

Werewolf Legion
Schultz-88
Mad Crowd
National Socialist Party of Russia
Saviour
White Society-88
Ryno-Skachevsky gang
BORN
Volkssturm
Lincoln-88
NS/WP Nevograd
The Cleaners
Atomwaffen Division Russland
Rusich Group

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Anonymous wrote:So depressing as we grind toward WW3.

Isn't the whole point to avoid one by funding countries against aggression by dictatorship and terrorism?

Is that the whole point? Or is this to expand our power and control across the world and continue to mint money in the weapons and defense sector?

I'm in favor of all of the above.

Avoid war via deterrence. Expand our power and control. Ensure future security by advancing weapons/defense tech.

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Putin invaded Crimea in 2014 so this Ukraine war is nothing new but the difference is back then the scam for money didn’t work.

Ukraine was headed by a corrupt oligarch at the time, that’s why we didn’t want to support them.

Wow such a fine understanding of politics
DP

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Anonymous wrote:So depressing as we grind toward WW3.

Isn't the whole point to avoid one by funding countries against aggression by dictatorship and terrorism?

Is that the whole point? Or is this to expand our power and control across the world and continue to mint money in the weapons and defense sector?

I'm in favor of all of the above.

Avoid war via deterrence. Expand our power and control. Ensure future security by advancing weapons/defense tech.

You sound like those nutcases that say only more guns in the hands of teachers will solve the problem of school shootings in America

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Anonymous wrote:Russia should've been our friend.

Not once Putin took over. His ambitions and methods are incompatible with friendship. Once the Russians kick him to the curb, then perhaps.

Another naive assumption
Russians don’t trust “the opposition” as they’ve been burnt in the 90s by the liberal reforms
Watch the Trauma Zone documentary (it’s BBC so isn’t Russian propaganda or anything) and see for yourself

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Anonymous wrote:I can't wait for my kids to go to college so I can move from this sinking country. I swear that in another decade, this country will be in ruin.

Domestically, our politics are dividing us. Economically, the wider the gap in income and national debt will give way to violence, crime, general chaos. Government wise, our stuff is already messy with immigration and health care issues, we will only be more of a mess. Foreign policy wise, I'm not as confident that we'll be number 1 or 2 even because we'll be so weak domestically. Let's face it folks - if it wasn't that we were known as a "superpower" in the world, taken into consideration the strength of our country on a domestic level, we are definitely not even top 10 globally. And the days of having 1 or 2 "superpowers" is not really how things are anymore. Globalization is about partnerships and the world is more complex.

And yet, the US and its allies are trying to maintain those partnerships, while Russia, China and others are fighting against them. The US can still prevail, but unless or until we can figure out how government can "regulate" disinformation and how we can get money out of our politics, it will be a tough battle, but one worth fighting.

Prevail at what? Russia China and Iran shouldn’t have become an Alliance in the first place. Russia shouldve been our friend. We pushed them to China by stupidly wanting to expand NATOs borders eastward and stating this In 2008. For what? Europeans don’t like to fight . Why did we have to expand NATO eastward? What for? It was only to provoke Russia. We didn’t like when Russians put soldiers in our backyard in Cuba so how did we ever expect expanding NATO and the EU would make them feel?

Our biggest threat is actually China not Russia and we pushed Russia to China by being stupid . China , a very smart country, must be glad at our foolishness.

Yep, the Thucydides trap says we're going to have to fight China. So the question becomes, if you have an inevitable conflict with China ahead, do you want Russia on your side or theirs?

Russia's already a vassal of China. The way to defend against the Thuycydides Trap is by consolidating with our allies in NATO, ANZAC, and Japorea.

+1

Besides, the Putin regimes mentality will alway be expansionist. You cannot claim the same of the EU. We cannot be allies with Russia.

Or did 40 years of constant war with the UUSR teach you nothing whatsoever?

DP
it’s ussr
And there was no “war”
Competing for influence maybe

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Anonymous wrote:This Jewish blogger discusses thoughts on NeoNazi Ukrainian soldier’s tour of Israel

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/israeli-government-welcomes-azov-battalion-leader-as-honored-guest/


These are our friends .

I found myself thinking of my ancestors and the millions of Jews slaughtered at the hands of Nazis. What would they think if they could see a country that (falsely) claims to represent world Jewry inviting such a person as a welcomed guest? The red-carpet treatment given to the “hero” of the Azov Battalion, Illia Samoilenko, is an insult to the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis during the Holocaust.

Up until the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Azov Battalion was recognized the world over as a militant right-wing, violent organization with large numbers of Nazis and fascists among its members and within its leadership. In fact, the FBI considered the Azov Battalion as the center of the international Nazi movement. Militant right-wingers from around the world would travel to Ukraine to train with like-minded members of the battalion.

The Azov Battalion was founded in 2014 by the neo-Nazi group known as “Patriots of Ukraine” (today known as National Corps) to fight against ethnic Russians in the Eastern part of the country. Its troops have been accused of war crimes by the United Nations and a number of international human rights organizations, such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. They have routinely committed acts of violence against ethnic Russians, Roma, and Jews. In fact, in 2014, one of Kiev’s major rabbis told Jews to leave the country if possible because they were no longer safe.

The Azov Battalion never attempted to hide their Nazi roots. The battalion’s iconography consists of several Nazi logos, such as the Nazi Sonnenrad (otherwise known as the “Black Sun”).

However, once the Russian military invaded Ukraine, the United States and its allies decided that the Azov Battalion was a valuable ally in their anti-Russia crusade. They have since gone to great lengths to try and polish the turd that is the battalion’s reputation. Azov members routinely flank Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, as he is paraded around the world as some sort of folk hero. We are told that Azov members can’t be Nazis because they are standing next to the Jewish president of Ukraine, as if “tokenism” was ever a good cover for racists and chauvinists.

In the United States and Europe, corporate media outlets are full of articles and news stories trying to present Azov members as “the nice kind of Nazis.” Their members are flown around the world to give speaking tours, shake hands, and kiss babies.

Samoilenko openly admits that Azov was founded by Nazis, but says that they all left the battalion and that the origination has “grown up.” He hopes that the fact that the members of the unit still use Nazi symbols and slogans will go unnoticed.

lol how does anyone in Israel think they have the right to denounce neo-Nazis? I bet this guy is fully supportive of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians. He lives in a state that only exist based on the use of tactics taken from the Nazis and apartheid. Hoe delusional can some be?

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Anonymous wrote:Remember, you must believe that Russia is a glorified gas station with a collapsing army that is losing to Ukraine BUT ALSO that it’s magically on the brink of conquering all Europe and itching for a fight with NATO.

Russia is collapsing because we’re resisting them, dipshit.

If it’s collapsing, then we don’t need to send Ukraine aid. Let’s pack this thing up and hit the road

No. Let's give our ally what it needs to finish the job and remove the Russian invader from their land.

Our historic ally of the Ukraine. Our greatest ally, after Israel of course.

I feel bad for your friends. You must abandon them at the drop of a hat when the going gets tough. The sort of dude who steps out on his wife when she gets sick.

It's the Republican Way.

The late Elizabeth Edwards may have something to say about that. Remember John Edwards ?

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A good summary of the geopolitical pressures leading to this funding bill: https://bigserge.substack.com/p/the-age-of-zugzwang

"And so America faces Zugzwang in Ukraine. It can choose to go all-in, but this means both selling a disruptive breakneck rearmament to the American public in peacetime, *and* gambling on a faltering piece in Kiev (which is now facing a command shakeup and yet another shattered defensive stronghold in Avdiivka). Strategic retreat in the form of abandoning Kiev may make the most sense from a pure cost-benefit perspective, but there are undoubtedly prestige factors at play. Walking away from Ukraine entirely and simply leaving it to be steamrolled would be seen, and rightfully so, as a Russian strategic victory over the United States.
That leaves the third door, which is the sort of drip feed of aid that maintains the perception of American support for Ukraine, but offers no real prospect of Ukrainian victory. This is a cynical play, which props the Ukrainians upright for a slower death for which they themselves can be held accountable - “we never abandoned Ukraine, they lost.”"

This bill is a fight between retreat and cynicism.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember, you must believe that Russia is a glorified gas station with a collapsing army that is losing to Ukraine BUT ALSO that it’s magically on the brink of conquering all Europe and itching for a fight with NATO.

Russia is collapsing because we’re resisting them, dipshit.

If it’s collapsing, then we don’t need to send Ukraine aid. Let’s pack this thing up and hit the road

No. Let's give our ally what it needs to finish the job and remove the Russian invader from their land.

Our historic ally of the Ukraine. Our greatest ally, after Israel of course.

I feel bad for your friends. You must abandon them at the drop of a hat when the going gets tough. The sort of dude who steps out on his wife when she gets sick.

It's the Republican Way.

The late Elizabeth Edwards may have something to say about that. Remember John Edwards ?

Yeah. He was a slime ball too. I was thinking of Newt Gingrich, family man.

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Who/what is Big Serge?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So depressing as we grind toward WW3.

Isn't the whole point to avoid one by funding countries against aggression by dictatorship and terrorism?

Is that the whole point? Or is this to expand our power and control across the world and continue to mint money in the weapons and defense sector?

I'm in favor of all of the above.

Avoid war via deterrence. Expand our power and control. Ensure future security by advancing weapons/defense tech.

Ensure future security by producing more guns for more wars . The guns get trafficked and sold in the black market to our enemies. This is a reasonable investment compared to investing in our own American middle class, retiring baby boomers or in education? You know, our future . Migrants and Ukraine are more important

[Anonymous]

Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.

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Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.

It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less

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Anonymous wrote:Russia can't support right-wing authoritarianism in 2024 because its soldiers liberated concentration camps 80 years ago on its way to retaliating against Hitler for stabbing them in the back after the Poland deal is a new argument.

It is a new argument that you created. Nobody said anti Semitism doesn’t exist in Russia or that they’re anti Nazism/communism in the past means they’re good today. To the contrary; I am saying Ukraine might be full of bad actors precisely because there are many there that are pro Russia. Many Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine where the war is going on have sympathies or loyalties with Putin or Nazis and not necessarily Zelensky . Zelensky is the money train because his army gets all the great shiny armor and toys from the Americans so people that like Putin and or dislike Jews will still deal with him. If This is a bombshell or something out of the realm of possibility for you, consider Afghanistan . We armed all the mullahs and Hamid Karzai, our supposed leader and bright light of democracy, all to realize many locals had sympathy with the Taliban and secretly supported them.

We should just flush our money down the toilet because that’s where these expensive arms essentially go. We should invest in our country more and bad actors that we do not understand less

That is your opinion but it is not based in reality. The reality is 180 degrees from your views of Ukraine. It’s like you have idea what is going on.