I don't trust doctors anymore

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh OP I understand.

Let’s see Duke University Hospital world renowned OB told me I was dying of cancer and left me with a c section scar that no one should have.

Thank god. ( I’m not religious) however this phrase fits for me second child he was on vacation and one of his students delivered my second one.

By my third child I changed OBs

Skip to age 35 diagnosis’s by Bethesda Urology who completely disregarded my history and diagnosed me incorrectly put me through tests I did not need.

I’m done with crappy doctors especially ones that make Washingon Best doctors

Now I am super careful I have a fantastic female primary and fantastic urogyn and reg gyn and cardio no more male doctors ever again

Washingtonian Best Doctors list is a joke - do NOT trust those recommendations. Do your own research.

I don't think there is a sentence in the world I hate more than this one.
Not because there's anything wrong with reading and learning independently, but because of the type of people who say it. Always the most ignorant, arrogant people.

Do your own research on the DOCTORS, PP. Pay attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP I understand.

Let’s see Duke University Hospital world renowned OB told me I was dying of cancer and left me with a c section scar that no one should have.

Thank god. ( I’m not religious) however this phrase fits for me second child he was on vacation and one of his students delivered my second one.

By my third child I changed OBs

Skip to age 35 diagnosis’s by Bethesda Urology who completely disregarded my history and diagnosed me incorrectly put me through tests I did not need.

I’m done with crappy doctors especially ones that make Washingon Best doctors

Now I am super careful I have a fantastic female primary and fantastic urogyn and reg gyn and cardio no more male doctors ever again

Washingtonian Best Doctors list is a joke - do NOT trust those recommendations. Do your own research.

I don't think there is a sentence in the world I hate more than this one.
Not because there's anything wrong with reading and learning independently, but because of the type of people who say it. Always the most ignorant, arrogant people.

And always the people that really shouldn't be doing their own "research."

Doing research is fine, but no one understands what actual research is. They think the internet and podcast are research.

I think when I bring my doc a PubMed citation that's relevant to my condition, and an explanation of how I'd like it considered w/r to my treatment, she should read the thing and consider it from her medically-educated perspective, because that's what I'm paying her to do. I don't expect her to magically know everything. I expect her to consider what I'm saying, especially when I can back it up.

If you have a rare form of cancer or some highly untreatable chronic condition you have been dealing with for years, maybe this might make some amount of sense. Otherwise, you need to figure out a way to make your working time more valuable so you can then go into the market and buy concierge care to deal with your BS of bringing pubmed citations.

For every extra 10-15 minutes GP doctors are dealing with this nonsense is another a55hat in the waiting room also incensed nothing is running on time. See how that works?

[Anonymous]

Many Americans are overweight and follow terribly unhealthy diet. Quite a few have poor drinking, smoking or drug habits. They don’t exercise. They’re sanitary at jobs and their home life. They’re also chronically unhappy.

Fix these things, in the vast majority of Americans would lead a much healthier life.

If physicians had to deal with only problems not caused from the poor behavioral issues listed above, it would be a better healthcare system.

For what it’s worth, most physicians, and nurses care a lot about their patients wellbeing.

[Anonymous]

There are tons of bad doctors these days. You’re cattle to them. They want to see as many as possible, so you’re just prime beef to rack up numbers and insurance claims. No one cares about you anymore.

And yes, this isn’t 100% on the docs but also on the insanely stupid HC system we have in the U.S. it has gotten so bad over my lifetime.

I dunno if there are any solutions until artificial intelligence can completely take over primary care.

[Anonymous]

For those doing their own research, unless you really understand research, design, and statistics, you are not being helpful. I have been reading research articles for nearly 20 years. My role for a long time was translational research- how to get research into practice.

Just like the news went to actually reporting what was happening to me or talking heads with opinions, medical research is going down the same path.

I cringe now when I read some of the titles of journal articles. They are titled in such a way to grab interest from a reader. All too often they seem to make grandiose claims that is then not supported by the actual article. I for those reading PubMed, be sure to read more than just the abstract and learn a little bit about research design, and statistics or you are not doing yourself any favors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP I understand.

Let’s see Duke University Hospital world renowned OB told me I was dying of cancer and left me with a c section scar that no one should have.

Thank god. ( I’m not religious) however this phrase fits for me second child he was on vacation and one of his students delivered my second one.

By my third child I changed OBs

Skip to age 35 diagnosis’s by Bethesda Urology who completely disregarded my history and diagnosed me incorrectly put me through tests I did not need.

I’m done with crappy doctors especially ones that make Washingon Best doctors

Now I am super careful I have a fantastic female primary and fantastic urogyn and reg gyn and cardio no more male doctors ever again

Washingtonian Best Doctors list is a joke - do NOT trust those recommendations. Do your own research.

I don't think there is a sentence in the world I hate more than this one.
Not because there's anything wrong with reading and learning independently, but because of the type of people who say it. Always the most ignorant, arrogant people.

And always the people that really shouldn't be doing their own "research."

Doing research is fine, but no one understands what actual research is. They think the internet and podcast are research.

I think when I bring my doc a PubMed citation that's relevant to my condition, and an explanation of how I'd like it considered w/r to my treatment, she should read the thing and consider it from her medically-educated perspective, because that's what I'm paying her to do. I don't expect her to magically know everything. I expect her to consider what I'm saying, especially when I can back it up.

If you have a rare form of cancer or some highly untreatable chronic condition you have been dealing with for years, maybe this might make some amount of sense. Otherwise, you need to figure out a way to make your working time more valuable so you can then go into the market and buy concierge care to deal with your BS of bringing pubmed citations.

For every extra 10-15 minutes GP doctors are dealing with this nonsense is another a55hat in the waiting room also incensed nothing is running on time. See how that works?

Yep. Cattle. Get in (after waiting howeverlong b/c some offices can't schedule for shite), be seen (but not heard), get out and pay up. NEXT!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP I understand.

Let’s see Duke University Hospital world renowned OB told me I was dying of cancer and left me with a c section scar that no one should have.

Thank god. ( I’m not religious) however this phrase fits for me second child he was on vacation and one of his students delivered my second one.

By my third child I changed OBs

Skip to age 35 diagnosis’s by Bethesda Urology who completely disregarded my history and diagnosed me incorrectly put me through tests I did not need.

I’m done with crappy doctors especially ones that make Washingon Best doctors

Now I am super careful I have a fantastic female primary and fantastic urogyn and reg gyn and cardio no more male doctors ever again

Washingtonian Best Doctors list is a joke - do NOT trust those recommendations. Do your own research.

I don't think there is a sentence in the world I hate more than this one.
Not because there's anything wrong with reading and learning independently, but because of the type of people who say it. Always the most ignorant, arrogant people.

Do your own research on the DOCTORS, PP. Pay attention.

Would be great if some of the docs posting anon on here would out themselves. They're so smart, we should all want to hire them, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those doing their own research, unless you really understand research, design, and statistics, you are not being helpful. I have been reading research articles for nearly 20 years. My role for a long time was translational research- how to get research into practice.

Just like the news went to actually reporting what was happening to me or talking heads with opinions, medical research is going down the same path.

I cringe now when I read some of the titles of journal articles. They are titled in such a way to grab interest from a reader. All too often they seem to make grandiose claims that is then not supported by the actual article. I for those reading PubMed, be sure to read more than just the abstract and learn a little bit about research design, and statistics or you are not doing yourself any favors.

But if I just tell my doctor "this medication is making me feel (side effect)" they say some stupid stuff like "I've never heard of that." And if I say "well, my friend, Steve, had the same thing" that's just hearsay, so I have to bring them "here's another whitecoat saying they've observed this".

It's derivative of the male fragility that built this stupid system, where you have to make a man feel like it was his idea because you couldn't possibly have one of your own in your little ladybrain. You, as a patient, couldn't possibly know things, at all, because you don't have a fancy degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are tons of bad doctors these days. You’re cattle to them. They want to see as many as possible, so you’re just prime beef to rack up numbers and insurance claims. No one cares about you anymore.

And yes, this isn’t 100% on the docs but also on the insanely stupid HC system we have in the U.S. it has gotten so bad over my lifetime.

I dunno if there are any solutions until artificial intelligence can completely take over primary care.

If you're part of the system, you're part of the problem. I agree that insurance is scammy af and it's definitely getting worse not better. Some doctors are perfectly content to simply pass that suck down the line to the patient so they keep making money, and it shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP I understand.

Let’s see Duke University Hospital world renowned OB told me I was dying of cancer and left me with a c section scar that no one should have.

Thank god. ( I’m not religious) however this phrase fits for me second child he was on vacation and one of his students delivered my second one.

By my third child I changed OBs

Skip to age 35 diagnosis’s by Bethesda Urology who completely disregarded my history and diagnosed me incorrectly put me through tests I did not need.

I’m done with crappy doctors especially ones that make Washingon Best doctors

Now I am super careful I have a fantastic female primary and fantastic urogyn and reg gyn and cardio no more male doctors ever again

Washingtonian Best Doctors list is a joke - do NOT trust those recommendations. Do your own research.

I don't think there is a sentence in the world I hate more than this one.
Not because there's anything wrong with reading and learning independently, but because of the type of people who say it. Always the most ignorant, arrogant people.

And always the people that really shouldn't be doing their own "research."

Doing research is fine, but no one understands what actual research is. They think the internet and podcast are research.

I think when I bring my doc a PubMed citation that's relevant to my condition, and an explanation of how I'd like it considered w/r to my treatment, she should read the thing and consider it from her medically-educated perspective, because that's what I'm paying her to do. I don't expect her to magically know everything. I expect her to consider what I'm saying, especially when I can back it up.

If you have a rare form of cancer or some highly untreatable chronic condition you have been dealing with for years, maybe this might make some amount of sense. Otherwise, you need to figure out a way to make your working time more valuable so you can then go into the market and buy concierge care to deal with your BS of bringing pubmed citations.

For every extra 10-15 minutes GP doctors are dealing with this nonsense is another a55hat in the waiting room also incensed nothing is running on time. See how that works?

Yep. Cattle. Get in (after waiting howeverlong b/c some offices can't schedule for shite), be seen (but not heard), get out and pay up. NEXT!!!

It’s always the people whose time is worth the least amount of money that have the most complaints. Human time is expensive. If you want more time with another human whose time is worth significant economic resources, go figure out how to make your time worth more so you can go into the marketplace and buy concierge service. Until then, stop acting like the world owes you something it doesn’t.

A good exercise to figure out how privileged you are in 2024 is to consider what sort of medical care your family had access to two or three generations back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are tons of bad doctors these days. You’re cattle to them. They want to see as many as possible, so you’re just prime beef to rack up numbers and insurance claims. No one cares about you anymore.

And yes, this isn’t 100% on the docs but also on the insanely stupid HC system we have in the U.S. it has gotten so bad over my lifetime.

I dunno if there are any solutions until artificial intelligence can completely take over primary care.

I had a first check up in years, although I have plenty of visits with specialists for chronic issues throughout the year. All the check up did was confirm that I'd already had all routine cancer screenings and vaccinations. It wouldn't have picked up any new problems. I feel like I only have a PCP to prescribe a couple of prescriptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP I understand.

Let’s see Duke University Hospital world renowned OB told me I was dying of cancer and left me with a c section scar that no one should have.

Thank god. ( I’m not religious) however this phrase fits for me second child he was on vacation and one of his students delivered my second one.

By my third child I changed OBs

Skip to age 35 diagnosis’s by Bethesda Urology who completely disregarded my history and diagnosed me incorrectly put me through tests I did not need.

I’m done with crappy doctors especially ones that make Washingon Best doctors

Now I am super careful I have a fantastic female primary and fantastic urogyn and reg gyn and cardio no more male doctors ever again

Washingtonian Best Doctors list is a joke - do NOT trust those recommendations. Do your own research.

I don't think there is a sentence in the world I hate more than this one.
Not because there's anything wrong with reading and learning independently, but because of the type of people who say it. Always the most ignorant, arrogant people.

And always the people that really shouldn't be doing their own "research."

Doing research is fine, but no one understands what actual research is. They think the internet and podcast are research.

I think when I bring my doc a PubMed citation that's relevant to my condition, and an explanation of how I'd like it considered w/r to my treatment, she should read the thing and consider it from her medically-educated perspective, because that's what I'm paying her to do. I don't expect her to magically know everything. I expect her to consider what I'm saying, especially when I can back it up.

If you have a rare form of cancer or some highly untreatable chronic condition you have been dealing with for years, maybe this might make some amount of sense. Otherwise, you need to figure out a way to make your working time more valuable so you can then go into the market and buy concierge care to deal with your BS of bringing pubmed citations.

For every extra 10-15 minutes GP doctors are dealing with this nonsense is another a55hat in the waiting room also incensed nothing is running on time. See how that works?

Yep. Cattle. Get in (after waiting howeverlong b/c some offices can't schedule for shite), be seen (but not heard), get out and pay up. NEXT!!!

It’s always the people whose time is worth the least amount of money that have the most complaints. Human time is expensive. If you want more time with another human whose time is worth significant economic resources, go figure out how to make your time worth more so you can go into the marketplace and buy concierge service. Until then, stop acting like the world owes you something it doesn’t.

A good exercise to figure out how privileged you are in 2024 is to consider what sort of medical care your family had access to two or three generations back.

I'm sure you tip well, and value your plumber and mechanic, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are tons of bad doctors these days. You’re cattle to them. They want to see as many as possible, so you’re just prime beef to rack up numbers and insurance claims. No one cares about you anymore.

And yes, this isn’t 100% on the docs but also on the insanely stupid HC system we have in the U.S. it has gotten so bad over my lifetime.

I dunno if there are any solutions until artificial intelligence can completely take over primary care.

I had a first check up in years, although I have plenty of visits with specialists for chronic issues throughout the year. All the check up did was confirm that I'd already had all routine cancer screenings and vaccinations. It wouldn't have picked up any new problems. I feel like I only have a PCP to prescribe a couple of prescriptions.

Did you even see your PCP, or one of the various PAs they employ (and charge the same rate for seeing)? There's no longer any sort of continuity of care with a provider unless you can pay for concierge, and even then...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are tons of bad doctors these days. You’re cattle to them. They want to see as many as possible, so you’re just prime beef to rack up numbers and insurance claims. No one cares about you anymore.

And yes, this isn’t 100% on the docs but also on the insanely stupid HC system we have in the U.S. it has gotten so bad over my lifetime.

I dunno if there are any solutions until artificial intelligence can completely take over primary care.

I had a first check up in years, although I have plenty of visits with specialists for chronic issues throughout the year. All the check up did was confirm that I'd already had all routine cancer screenings and vaccinations. It wouldn't have picked up any new problems. I feel like I only have a PCP to prescribe a couple of prescriptions.

Did you even see your PCP, or one of the various PAs they employ (and charge the same rate for seeing)? There's no longer any sort of continuity of care with a provider unless you can pay for concierge, and even then...

I saw the doc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP I understand.

Let’s see Duke University Hospital world renowned OB told me I was dying of cancer and left me with a c section scar that no one should have.

Thank god. ( I’m not religious) however this phrase fits for me second child he was on vacation and one of his students delivered my second one.

By my third child I changed OBs

Skip to age 35 diagnosis’s by Bethesda Urology who completely disregarded my history and diagnosed me incorrectly put me through tests I did not need.

I’m done with crappy doctors especially ones that make Washingon Best doctors

Now I am super careful I have a fantastic female primary and fantastic urogyn and reg gyn and cardio no more male doctors ever again

Washingtonian Best Doctors list is a joke - do NOT trust those recommendations. Do your own research.

I don't think there is a sentence in the world I hate more than this one.
Not because there's anything wrong with reading and learning independently, but because of the type of people who say it. Always the most ignorant, arrogant people.

And always the people that really shouldn't be doing their own "research."

Doing research is fine, but no one understands what actual research is. They think the internet and podcast are research.

I think when I bring my doc a PubMed citation that's relevant to my condition, and an explanation of how I'd like it considered w/r to my treatment, she should read the thing and consider it from her medically-educated perspective, because that's what I'm paying her to do. I don't expect her to magically know everything. I expect her to consider what I'm saying, especially when I can back it up.

If you have a rare form of cancer or some highly untreatable chronic condition you have been dealing with for years, maybe this might make some amount of sense. Otherwise, you need to figure out a way to make your working time more valuable so you can then go into the market and buy concierge care to deal with your BS of bringing pubmed citations.

For every extra 10-15 minutes GP doctors are dealing with this nonsense is another a55hat in the waiting room also incensed nothing is running on time. See how that works?

Yep. Cattle. Get in (after waiting howeverlong b/c some offices can't schedule for shite), be seen (but not heard), get out and pay up. NEXT!!!

It’s always the people whose time is worth the least amount of money that have the most complaints. Human time is expensive. If you want more time with another human whose time is worth significant economic resources, go figure out how to make your time worth more so you can go into the marketplace and buy concierge service. Until then, stop acting like the world owes you something it doesn’t.

A good exercise to figure out how privileged you are in 2024 is to consider what sort of medical care your family had access to two or three generations back.

I'm sure you tip well, and value your plumber and mechanic, too.

I do actually. I also do most of my own plumbing work and work on the cars I want to. I have two engineering degrees, so that doesn’t hurt.

Next you are going to tell us engineers are overrated and you could have invented the internet and implemented it on your own.