Men if you could order the perfect wife/partner she would…

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Anonymous wrote:No woman satisfies all of my wish list but here is a list with more important items toward the top:

Inquisitive
Intelligent
Has interesting things to say
Sexually responsive in bed (has many Os, so women who tell me they like sex but rarely reach O with a man are not going to hold my attention for the long term)
Comfortable talking with me about feelings, family, politics, etc
Passionate about things she does in the world (career, community service, making music or art...but I almost never click with stay at home moms)
Attractive (can be unconventionally attractive)
Likes to cook with me or do other things with me
Challenges me to be a better person
Attuned to my body (not as important as enjoying what I do to her, as long as I get basic needs met)
Compatible with my friends
Compatible with my family
Active
Likes exploring the city
Likes to travel
Financially independent


I actually meet a fair number of women like this but the ones I like best usually end up preferring someone who is hotter. Plenty of smart and hot women like me too, but there's usually an obvious quality listed above that's missing.

All women can O. You’re either skilled enough to attune to her body responses to make her O or you have good enough communication skills to learn and explore her body with her to reach an O.

If she’s not reaching Os with you, then it’s a you thing.

I knew someone (many people) would have this reaction. I actually am skilled, according to some women, and I've taught some very late bloomers how to O. I'm talking about older women who never had an O in their lives or never had one with another person present. I am extremely calms and patient in bed, take a lot of time to explore, and am pretty gentle. Several women have told me they find it much easier with me than with most other men (or in a few cases all other men).

BUT some women have not been attracted to me once the action starts. Or they wanted me to be rougher than I'm naturally inclined to be. I think I'm just incompatible with those women.

A few have said they actually are attracted to me and actually like they way I touch them but they also say they can't O with me, or with most men. Some of these women have said things like "I can do it but only with a vibrator " Unfortunately, I find using a vibrator to be a major turn off. I know some men don't mind it but I do. It's a bigger deal to me than being overweight or having an ugly face.

I've also encountered the problem of a woman needing me to be very turned on before she can get very turned on. I'm pretty much the same way. I need the woman to be turned on first. If both of us need this, then neither of us gets very turned on. and there's lots of disappointment. I actually enjoy being with somewhat selfish lovers for this reason.

Some people are just not compatible. If I don't get turned on by a woman very much, I probably wouldn't say "it's a you thing."

It’s really weird how men talk about sex like it’s some kind of solitary activity that they are doing to another person. Like they are performing surgery and the woman is under anesthesia or something.

Sex is more like playing a cooperative game with your friend. If your partner doesn’t know what they are doing, then you teach them and vice versa. You don’t just throw up year hands and say “we can’t be friends.”

I’m a guy and I agree with this entirely! But sometimes it doesn’t always work out. I’m a huge introvert in the bedroom and even though I’m willing to be taught the rules of the game sometimes I get the “why don’t you know what to do?” Moment.

You get it- meaning you are understandi the sentiment or someone expresses the sentiment to you?

That was unclear - I meant that someone expresses that to me. I don’t read people all that well in general.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's great that some women who otherwise can't achieve O are actually able to do it with a vibrator. I also think it's great that some men like playing with toys. That said, I'm probably not the only guy who finds them a turn off. Is that a "tell"? Well, I'm telling you I find it to be a turn off. So yes, I guess so.

And I don't usually like very rough sex. Is that a tell too? I suppose so.

I try to be very attuned to my partner but I don't try to be someone I'm not in bed. I admit that some otherwise good relationships ended quickly because of this. But wasn't this thread supposed to be about what I want? It turns out that what I want is different from what some of the other men want. Nevertheless, despite the variations, we are ALL jerks, it seems.

You’re still not getting it. Which is sad and explains a lot.

Your original post was putting the blame on the woman for not having multiple Os with you. But it’s you that is not into having sex the way they O. That is not a problem with the woman.

No, you are still not getting it. If she and I can't have sex in the way I like best, and can only have sex with the aid of a machine (which turns me off a bit), then she is not a "perfect" partner for me, even if she's perfect for someone else. Surely you get this if someone says I need my partner to enjoy travel, or eating the food I like, or sharing my hobbies. And surely you get it if someone says I need my partner to be physically attractive (not fat or not short or not bald or whatever). If you can't I without a machine, then you are not my perfect partner. No great loss for me or for you. You can find men who enjoy sex with you. I can find women who enjoy sex with me. We both will probably do just fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's great that some women who otherwise can't achieve O are actually able to do it with a vibrator. I also think it's great that some men like playing with toys. That said, I'm probably not the only guy who finds them a turn off. Is that a "tell"? Well, I'm telling you I find it to be a turn off. So yes, I guess so.

And I don't usually like very rough sex. Is that a tell too? I suppose so.

I try to be very attuned to my partner but I don't try to be someone I'm not in bed. I admit that some otherwise good relationships ended quickly because of this. But wasn't this thread supposed to be about what I want? It turns out that what I want is different from what some of the other men want. Nevertheless, despite the variations, we are ALL jerks, it seems.

You’re still not getting it. Which is sad and explains a lot.

Your original post was putting the blame on the woman for not having multiple Os with you. But it’s you that is not into having sex the way they O. That is not a problem with the woman.

No, you are still not getting it. If she and I can't have sex in the way I like best, and can only have sex with the aid of a machine (which turns me off a bit), then she is not a "perfect" partner for me, even if she's perfect for someone else. Surely you get this if someone says I need my partner to enjoy travel, or eating the food I like, or sharing my hobbies. And surely you get it if someone says I need my partner to be physically attractive (not fat or not short or not bald or whatever). If you can't I without a machine, then you are not my perfect partner. No great loss for me or for you. You can find men who enjoy sex with you. I can find women who enjoy sex with me. We both will probably do just fine.

This is what you wrote:
“Sexually responsive in bed (has many Os, so women who tell me they like sex but rarely reach O with a man are not going to hold my attention for the long term)”

This is what you should have wrote:
Has sex and has Os the way I like for her to.

There is nothing wrong with your ‘perfect’ partner being submissive or whatever it is “you like” to you. That’s not what you wrote. Your statement puts the blame on the woman for not having multiple Os with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's great that some women who otherwise can't achieve O are actually able to do it with a vibrator. I also think it's great that some men like playing with toys. That said, I'm probably not the only guy who finds them a turn off. Is that a "tell"? Well, I'm telling you I find it to be a turn off. So yes, I guess so.

And I don't usually like very rough sex. Is that a tell too? I suppose so.

I try to be very attuned to my partner but I don't try to be someone I'm not in bed. I admit that some otherwise good relationships ended quickly because of this. But wasn't this thread supposed to be about what I want? It turns out that what I want is different from what some of the other men want. Nevertheless, despite the variations, we are ALL jerks, it seems.

Man here. FWIW, I find toys to be an incredible turn on. Lid for every pot I guess...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a woman in my 40s when I see men posting about how important it is for a wife to love sex and for some to have kinks, it makes me think back to my 20s when men judged women so harshly for having several sexual partners in the past, or if they knew a woman hooked up casually on occasion. A woman like that would be immediately branded a slut and would never seriously be considered as girlfriend or wife material. Guess what guys - when you marry a prude she may just turn out to be prudish!

I agree about your post. That whole thing about a women hooking up too much would kind of brand her with a Scarlett letter back in college.

But i feel like even marrying someone who is not prudish is no guarantee of long lasting intimacy in marriage.

Women are much more likely than men to just get bored, adopt a take it or leave it attitude, or see that their biological imperative has been fulfilled and just let sex slide in marriage. Whereas men still need it frequently to feel connected. Women just seem to care less about it or time more than men.

[Anonymous]

Ideal Wife

- submissive
- always aware of her appearance
- perfectly groomed: big hair, full makeup, nails & toes
- uber-feminine , hyper-femininity , heels, big cleavage
- always on top of fashion, cosmetics, always learning new techniques and ways to be beautiful
- cultivates girlfriends just like her who try to outdo each other & secretly compete
- sexually passive but always accommodating
- knows how to please but demure about it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Successful in life, and a deviant submissive in marriage.

This right here is why it’s hard to be female. Kick ass at your high earning job ladies, but be sure to submit to your man at home!

Women got brainwashed into keeping all of their own responsibilities and additionally taking over half of men's responsibilities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Successful in life, and a deviant submissive in marriage.

This right here is why it’s hard to be female. Kick ass at your high earning job ladies, but be sure to submit to your man at home!

Female here, this is me. Very successful and completely submissive when I walk through the door. Nothing hard about it. Very freeing and very relaxing. You just need to find someone worth submitting for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Ideal Wife

- submissive
- always aware of her appearance
- perfectly groomed: big hair, full makeup, nails & toes
- uber-feminine , hyper-femininity , heels, big cleavage
- always on top of fashion, cosmetics, always learning new techniques and ways to be beautiful
- cultivates girlfriends just like her who try to outdo each other & secretly compete
- sexually passive but always accommodating
- knows how to please but demure about it

X1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Ideal Wife

- submissive
- always aware of her appearance
- perfectly groomed: big hair, full makeup, nails & toes
- uber-feminine , hyper-femininity , heels, big cleavage
- always on top of fashion, cosmetics, always learning new techniques and ways to be beautiful
- cultivates girlfriends just like her who try to outdo each other & secretly compete
- sexually passive but always accommodating
- knows how to please but demure about it

This is me.
However, my friends and I don’t compete. We hold our own.

Husband always tells me that he loves that I’m a freak in sheets (our bedroom) and not one soul but him knows

Fun list sir!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a woman in my 40s when I see men posting about how important it is for a wife to love sex and for some to have kinks, it makes me think back to my 20s when men judged women so harshly for having several sexual partners in the past, or if they knew a woman hooked up casually on occasion. A woman like that would be immediately branded a slut and would never seriously be considered as girlfriend or wife material. Guess what guys - when you marry a prude she may just turn out to be prudish!

Loving sex and being promiscuous are not the same thing. What are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

This is me.
However, my friends and I don’t compete. We hold our own.

Husband always tells me that he loves that I’m a freak in sheets (our bedroom) and not one soul but him knows

Fun list sir!


AMAZING !!! very impressed. You go, girl. Bless you! and bless you some more.

Maybe I have to move to the D.C. area to see examples of this in real life?? I live in the Pacific Northwest and let's just say...the genders are not so differentiated here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Ideal Wife

- submissive
- always aware of her appearance
- perfectly groomed: big hair, full makeup, nails & toes
- uber-feminine , hyper-femininity , heels, big cleavage
- always on top of fashion, cosmetics, always learning new techniques and ways to be beautiful
- cultivates girlfriends just like her who try to outdo each other & secretly compete
- sexually passive but always accommodating
- knows how to please but demure about it

This is me.
However, my friends and I don’t compete. We hold our own.

Husband always tells me that he loves that I’m a freak in sheets (our bedroom) and not one soul but him knows

Fun list sir!

Do you have a job or kids tho because I can't imagine having the time for all this physical maintenance without a lot of free time somewhere in my life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a woman in my 40s when I see men posting about how important it is for a wife to love sex and for some to have kinks, it makes me think back to my 20s when men judged women so harshly for having several sexual partners in the past, or if they knew a woman hooked up casually on occasion. A woman like that would be immediately branded a slut and would never seriously be considered as girlfriend or wife material. Guess what guys - when you marry a prude she may just turn out to be prudish!

+1000

This is so hilarious and true. Have fun with your stepford who doesn’t throw it back. 😁

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is curvy
She Doesn’t stress over gaining 2 pounds
She doesn’t scream over small things
Enjoys working out with me at the gym
Keeps natural grooming (I don’t like shaved p***sy)
Enjoys a***nal
Likes to travel to interesting places
Dislikes all inclusive hotels
Doesn’t insist that I share her political views
Doesn’t force me to be religious (I don’t mind if she is, religion is a personal issue)
If she is going to cheat, she should let me know so I can dump her

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