NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

Some of us (though not me) take the position "The Only Moral Abortion Is My Abortion." I'm sincerely hoping you won't find yourself in that position with your daughter.

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I’ve had an IUD for seven years and my child has had one for three. Planned Parenthood inserts them, too. Shrug.
Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.

Hell, European counties like France have stricter gestational limits than the Commonwealth.

Look, you know that Youngkin knows he’s toast if he tried to enact a six-week gestational limit like Ron DeS, dontcha?

So dramatic 🙄

You sound like one of those people who said not to worry about RvW.

How did that turn out?

No, there is a real threat to women’s rights in VA if the Rs take the Senate. The Ds only have a narrow margin - 2 seats.

I’m still waiting for a “women’s rights” Dem to state what a reasonable gestational limit for legal abortions should be in VA…no one will answer.
You know, because Dems say third trimester abortions aren’t happening and all.
I’m listening because I believe 20 weeks, maybe 15 weeks is reasonable. Other women, even my mom, agree.

As I’ve said before, the current timeframe - 26w6d - is reasonable. Certainly no less.

At 15w (or even potentially 20w), women still haven’t had their anatomy scan.

Honestly, it shouldn’t be something for ignorant legislators/lay people to decide at all. I’m comfortable with doctors proving healthcare they deem necessary.

What you just wrote IS third trimester. WTF are you on about with claiming women still haven’t had their anatomy scan at 20 weeks? I don’t think you’ve had children.

This, from Healthline:

“Around 18-22 weeks of pregnancy, about halfway, it’s time for your anatomy scan. This ultrasound exam lets you see your baby and lets a doctor check for problems with your baby’s heart, brain, spine, and other systems.”

Have you tried scheduling one? It’s not like every single person can get in exactly at 18w.

And if something pops up you’ll need time for follow up/second opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Mostly Republican. I do like my Delegate David Bulova though.

I’m sorry but county offices don’t control things like abortion lol. Anyone saying they absolutely “have to” vote for their incompetent Dem rep on the county board or school board due to “muh abortion” is arguing in bad faith and admitting the following: A) you know the current crop of Dem candidates are deeply flawed and they have done things objectively bad. B) you’re a partisan hack who would find any reason whatsoever to justify your Dem vote.

Don’t hide behind abortion when defending your vote for the crappy Dem candidate. They suck and you know it, just embrace your vote for them at this point.

Exactly this. So sick of morons inserting abortion into discussions about the school board.

Republicans continually use the abortion discussion as a political tool to bind the conscience of Christian voters; the Christians feel they MUST vote Republican or else they are sinnning. Republicans take advantage of this to get votes, then do whatever they (Republicans) want to do in office in area that are not related to abotion. So yes, the abortion issue matters.

Whatever you say. I’m a pro-choice Republican but abortion is not my only issue, especially this year. We get that it’s yours though.

Except you’re ok if abortion is banned in VA.

Except abortion isn't banned in VA.

If you are voting R for VA legislators then you are ok if they ban abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

But you probably believe in a higher power, which makes you insane. It is a bummer you are allowed to vote.

NP — I know you prefer autocracy but it’s actually a good thing we have a democracy so both of you can vote as you please.

DP. I’m ok if the PP votes. I’m not ok if PP pushes her religious beliefs on everyone else and takes away my rights.

Well, that is exactly the kind of decision voters get to choose whether we agree or not. We decide what rights we have unless you’re religious and believe they are God given.

In other words, do people believe they have a God given right to abortion or do they believe these rights come from us through our democratic republic?

No one has the “right” to take away other people’s personal liberty.

By what authority? We should be able to plunder and steal at will. We should be able to do as each of us please, right? No. It is up to the people to decide — again, unless you are religious, then you believe that you have a God given right to xyz.

The Constitution:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

They aren’t up for discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

But you probably believe in a higher power, which makes you insane. It is a bummer you are allowed to vote.

NP — I know you prefer autocracy but it’s actually a good thing we have a democracy so both of you can vote as you please.

DP. I’m ok if the PP votes. I’m not ok if PP pushes her religious beliefs on everyone else and takes away my rights.

Well, that is exactly the kind of decision voters get to choose whether we agree or not. We decide what rights we have unless you’re religious and believe they are God given.

In other words, do people believe they have a God given right to abortion or do they believe these rights come from us through our democratic republic?

No one has the “right” to take away other people’s personal liberty.

By what authority? We should be able to plunder and steal at will. We should be able to do as each of us please, right? No. It is up to the people to decide — again, unless you are religious, then you believe that you have a God given right to xyz.

The Constitution:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

They aren’t up for discussion.

Which enshirined rights given by the Creator. If you don’t believe in a Creator, then who did we get the rights from? The Constitution is a document created by humans. We the people decide what and what it contains, and how we interpret it. And we interpret it by the people we elect to do xyz. Our rights are determined by the voters and how they change the laws. Your rights are malleable.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

But you probably believe in a higher power, which makes you insane. It is a bummer you are allowed to vote.

NP — I know you prefer autocracy but it’s actually a good thing we have a democracy so both of you can vote as you please.

DP. I’m ok if the PP votes. I’m not ok if PP pushes her religious beliefs on everyone else and takes away my rights.

Well, that is exactly the kind of decision voters get to choose whether we agree or not. We decide what rights we have unless you’re religious and believe they are God given.

In other words, do people believe they have a God given right to abortion or do they believe these rights come from us through our democratic republic?

No one has the “right” to take away other people’s personal liberty.

By what authority? We should be able to plunder and steal at will. We should be able to do as each of us please, right? No. It is up to the people to decide — again, unless you are religious, then you believe that you have a God given right to xyz.

The Constitution:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

They aren’t up for discussion.

Which enshirined rights given by the Creator. If you don’t believe in a Creator, then who did we get the rights from? The Constitution is a document created by humans. We the people decide what and what it contains, and how we interpret it. And we interpret it by the people we elect to do xyz. Our rights are determined by the voters and how they change the laws. Your rights are malleable.

We the people gave power to our representatives to ratify the constitution, which clearly states that those particular rights are inalienable. They can’t be voted away.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

Some of us (though not me) take the position "The Only Moral Abortion Is My Abortion." I'm sincerely hoping you won't find yourself in that position with your daughter.

I don't know why people act like it's so difficult to avoid getting pregnant. It's pretty easy in fact!

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

But you probably believe in a higher power, which makes you insane. It is a bummer you are allowed to vote.

NP — I know you prefer autocracy but it’s actually a good thing we have a democracy so both of you can vote as you please.

DP. I’m ok if the PP votes. I’m not ok if PP pushes her religious beliefs on everyone else and takes away my rights.

Well, that is exactly the kind of decision voters get to choose whether we agree or not. We decide what rights we have unless you’re religious and believe they are God given.

In other words, do people believe they have a God given right to abortion or do they believe these rights come from us through our democratic republic?

No one has the “right” to take away other people’s personal liberty.

By what authority? We should be able to plunder and steal at will. We should be able to do as each of us please, right? No. It is up to the people to decide — again, unless you are religious, then you believe that you have a God given right to xyz.

The Constitution:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

They aren’t up for discussion.

Which enshirined rights given by the Creator. If you don’t believe in a Creator, then who did we get the rights from? The Constitution is a document created by humans. We the people decide what and what it contains, and how we interpret it. And we interpret it by the people we elect to do xyz. Our rights are determined by the voters and how they change the laws. Your rights are malleable.

We the people gave power to our representatives to ratify the constitution, which clearly states that those particular rights are inalienable. They can’t be voted away.

The constitution is amendable. PEOPLE have to be willing to uphold it for it to work. Our rights ultimately come from the people not a piece of parchment.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

Some of us (though not me) take the position "The Only Moral Abortion Is My Abortion." I'm sincerely hoping you won't find yourself in that position with your daughter.

I don't know why people act like it's so difficult to avoid getting pregnant. It's pretty easy in fact!

Yes, as sex ed and contraceptives become more prevalent abortion #s have dropped.

But it’s still an important aspect of women’s reproductive health.

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Anonymous wrote:Mostly Republican. I do like my Delegate David Bulova though.

I’m sorry but county offices don’t control things like abortion lol. Anyone saying they absolutely “have to” vote for their incompetent Dem rep on the county board or school board due to “muh abortion” is arguing in bad faith and admitting the following: A) you know the current crop of Dem candidates are deeply flawed and they have done things objectively bad. B) you’re a partisan hack who would find any reason whatsoever to justify your Dem vote.

Don’t hide behind abortion when defending your vote for the crappy Dem candidate. They suck and you know it, just embrace your vote for them at this point.

Exactly this. So sick of morons inserting abortion into discussions about the school board.

Republicans continually use the abortion discussion as a political tool to bind the conscience of Christian voters; the Christians feel they MUST vote Republican or else they are sinnning. Republicans take advantage of this to get votes, then do whatever they (Republicans) want to do in office in area that are not related to abotion. So yes, the abortion issue matters.

Whatever you say. I’m a pro-choice Republican but abortion is not my only issue, especially this year. We get that it’s yours though.

Except you’re ok if abortion is banned in VA.

Except abortion isn't banned in VA.

If you are voting R for VA legislators then you are ok if they ban abortion.

No one said VA was going to totally ban abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

But you probably believe in a higher power, which makes you insane. It is a bummer you are allowed to vote.

NP — I know you prefer autocracy but it’s actually a good thing we have a democracy so both of you can vote as you please.

DP. I’m ok if the PP votes. I’m not ok if PP pushes her religious beliefs on everyone else and takes away my rights.

Well, that is exactly the kind of decision voters get to choose whether we agree or not. We decide what rights we have unless you’re religious and believe they are God given.

In other words, do people believe they have a God given right to abortion or do they believe these rights come from us through our democratic republic?

No one has the “right” to take away other people’s personal liberty.

By what authority? We should be able to plunder and steal at will. We should be able to do as each of us please, right? No. It is up to the people to decide — again, unless you are religious, then you believe that you have a God given right to xyz.

The Constitution:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

They aren’t up for discussion.

Which enshirined rights given by the Creator. If you don’t believe in a Creator, then who did we get the rights from? The Constitution is a document created by humans. We the people decide what and what it contains, and how we interpret it. And we interpret it by the people we elect to do xyz. Our rights are determined by the voters and how they change the laws. Your rights are malleable.

We the people gave power to our representatives to ratify the constitution, which clearly states that those particular rights are inalienable. They can’t be voted away.

The constitution is amendable. PEOPLE have to be willing to uphold it for it to work. Our rights ultimately come from the people not a piece of parchment.

Ok. And we the people have decided that those rights are inalienable.

Are the Rs trying to burn down the Constitution too?

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Anonymous wrote:Mostly Republican. I do like my Delegate David Bulova though.

I’m sorry but county offices don’t control things like abortion lol. Anyone saying they absolutely “have to” vote for their incompetent Dem rep on the county board or school board due to “muh abortion” is arguing in bad faith and admitting the following: A) you know the current crop of Dem candidates are deeply flawed and they have done things objectively bad. B) you’re a partisan hack who would find any reason whatsoever to justify your Dem vote.

Don’t hide behind abortion when defending your vote for the crappy Dem candidate. They suck and you know it, just embrace your vote for them at this point.

Exactly this. So sick of morons inserting abortion into discussions about the school board.

Republicans continually use the abortion discussion as a political tool to bind the conscience of Christian voters; the Christians feel they MUST vote Republican or else they are sinnning. Republicans take advantage of this to get votes, then do whatever they (Republicans) want to do in office in area that are not related to abotion. So yes, the abortion issue matters.

Whatever you say. I’m a pro-choice Republican but abortion is not my only issue, especially this year. We get that it’s yours though.

Except you’re ok if abortion is banned in VA.

Except abortion isn't banned in VA.

If you are voting R for VA legislators then you are ok if they ban abortion.

No one said VA was going to totally ban abortion.

Have you not been paying attention?

The VA GOP has already pushed an abortion ban earlier this year.
https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+sum+SB1284

Youngkin has already explained on camera that he will mislead voters about his stance on abortion just to secure votes during an election.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

Some of us (though not me) take the position "The Only Moral Abortion Is My Abortion." I'm sincerely hoping you won't find yourself in that position with your daughter.

DP
I’ve had an IUD for seven years and my child has had one for three. Planned Parenthood inserts them, too. Shrug.
Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.

Hell, European counties like France have stricter gestational limits than the Commonwealth.

Look, you know that Youngkin knows he’s toast if he tried to enact a six-week gestational limit like Ron DeS, dontcha?

So dramatic 🙄

You sound like one of those people who said not to worry about RvW.

How did that turn out?

No, there is a real threat to women’s rights in VA if the Rs take the Senate. The Ds only have a narrow margin - 2 seats.

I’m still waiting for a “women’s rights” Dem to state what a reasonable gestational limit for legal abortions should be in VA…no one will answer.
You know, because Dems say third trimester abortions aren’t happening and all.
I’m listening because I believe 20 weeks, maybe 15 weeks is reasonable. Other women, even my mom, agree.

As I’ve said before, the current timeframe - 26w6d - is reasonable. Certainly no less.

At 15w (or even potentially 20w), women still haven’t had their anatomy scan.

Honestly, it shouldn’t be something for ignorant legislators/lay people to decide at all. I’m comfortable with doctors proving healthcare they deem necessary.

What you just wrote IS third trimester. WTF are you on about with claiming women still haven’t had their anatomy scan at 20 weeks? I don’t think you’ve had children.

This, from Healthline:

“Around 18-22 weeks of pregnancy, about halfway, it’s time for your anatomy scan. This ultrasound exam lets you see your baby and lets a doctor check for problems with your baby’s heart, brain, spine, and other systems.”

Have you tried scheduling one? It’s not like every single person can get in exactly at 18w.

And if something pops up you’ll need time for follow up/second opinion.

I don’t think you’ve had children. bye

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Straight Dem

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Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for all Republicans because unlike some of you, I am hoping for a strict abortion ban. And yes, I'm a woman and parent to a female 20 year old college junior. Some of us think abortion is murder and vote accordingly.

Some of us (though not me) take the position "The Only Moral Abortion Is My Abortion." I'm sincerely hoping you won't find yourself in that position with your daughter.

DP
I’ve had an IUD for seven years and my child has had one for three. Planned Parenthood inserts them, too. Shrug.
Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.

Hell, European counties like France have stricter gestational limits than the Commonwealth.

Look, you know that Youngkin knows he’s toast if he tried to enact a six-week gestational limit like Ron DeS, dontcha?

So dramatic 🙄

You sound like one of those people who said not to worry about RvW.

How did that turn out?

No, there is a real threat to women’s rights in VA if the Rs take the Senate. The Ds only have a narrow margin - 2 seats.

I’m still waiting for a “women’s rights” Dem to state what a reasonable gestational limit for legal abortions should be in VA…no one will answer.
You know, because Dems say third trimester abortions aren’t happening and all.
I’m listening because I believe 20 weeks, maybe 15 weeks is reasonable. Other women, even my mom, agree.

As I’ve said before, the current timeframe - 26w6d - is reasonable. Certainly no less.

At 15w (or even potentially 20w), women still haven’t had their anatomy scan.

Honestly, it shouldn’t be something for ignorant legislators/lay people to decide at all. I’m comfortable with doctors proving healthcare they deem necessary.

What you just wrote IS third trimester. WTF are you on about with claiming women still haven’t had their anatomy scan at 20 weeks? I don’t think you’ve had children.

This, from Healthline:

“Around 18-22 weeks of pregnancy, about halfway, it’s time for your anatomy scan. This ultrasound exam lets you see your baby and lets a doctor check for problems with your baby’s heart, brain, spine, and other systems.”

Have you tried scheduling one? It’s not like every single person can get in exactly at 18w.

And if something pops up you’ll need time for follow up/second opinion.

I don’t think you’ve had children. bye

I’ve been pregnant three times and had to schedule ultrasounds for each of them. And I had many follow up ultrasounds with a MFM to closely follow an issue with one. And a gazillion ultrasounds in the decade since dealing with various gyn issues. I’m very experienced with ultrasounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people in Northern VA will vote to protect women’s rights, LGBTQ, and democracy.

Turn off MSNBC.

Read the newspaper.




https://news.yahoo.com/jan-6-rioter-arrested-assaulting-173103273.html

I do. That's one of the ways I know PP needs to turn off MSNBC. I mean, Dems are now supposed to pretend that we don't know what a woman is. So it's ironic for someone to say that Republicans are trying to take away women's rights.

People who care more about a manufactured LGBTQ issues than a woman’s right to control her own body probably aren’t D to start with.

Manufactured? Biden is trying to change Title IX so that men who either believe they are women or who are pretending to be women can play girls' and women's sports, use their bathrooms and locker rooms, be sentenced to women's prison, use women's shelters.

Yes, this is manufactured to spin people up. This is not an 80s sitcom, people do not get their birth certificate reissued or take expensive medication so they can pee in the stall next to you for nefarious purposes.

If you're worried about assault, let's talk about assault - there's little preventing a cis man from walking into a womens bathroom or locker room today, after all, so if that's a real worry then let's explore that instead of demonizing a tiny group of people who aren't hurting you.

There are laws and social contracts preventing men from entering women's reserved spaces. If Title IX is changed so that a women is defined as anyone who says they're a woman, those protection disappear. This is especially bad for womens' and girls' sports, women's prisons, abuse shelters, etc. The fact that you deny this means you're either a misogynist or so woke you've lost your mind.

What % of assaults are actually committed by cisgender men vs transgender women?

I’m not hearing any Rs complain about the huge number of assaults that are actually happening by cisgender men. Only these fantasy assaults by transgender women.

If Rs cared so much about women then why do they want to protect rapists. Why aren’t they doing something about assaults?

If they cared about women’s sports then why aren’t they pushing for gender equity in sports?

This is not about protecting women for Republicans. It’s about hurting transgender people.

First of all, I'm a Democrat. Now on to your questions. Males commit 99.5% of all sexual assaults against women regardless of their gender identity. So the answer to your question is irrelevant. All males should be banned from women's spaces. And you're not hearing Republicans complain about normal men assaulting women? You need to get out more. As for sports, Title IX covers amateur sports quite well (unless Biden or someone else changes it to include males as women). As for pro sports, it's a capitalist endeavor so female athletes are paid what they earn. Actually, I take that back. Many are paid more than they earn because they are subsidized by men's sports. Your bemoaning gender equity just men's they aren't taking enough from the men and giving it to the women for your liking. Nine of this is an excuse to allow males to play women's and girls' sports.

I saw the Rs protecting rapists on campus. I saw them elect/nominate abusers.

And there is much more to gender equality in sports than pro sports. How about equity for HS and college sports? Support to actually enforce Title IX?

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2022/06/22/title-ix-50th-anniversary-billie-jean-king-darren-walker-gender-equity-future

LOL. That article is about BJK growing up 70 years ago and then cited data from 2003. This is a typical woke tactic, pretending things are exactly as they were in the past. But as the the father of daughters, I would support enforcing Title IX more stringently. That includes keeping males out of girls' sports.

You stopped reading too early. The article talks about how we still have a long way to go with women's athletics today.

There are many ways you can actually support your daughters and women’s athletics:
https://www.womenssportsfoundation.org/

No. I read the whole piece. The last part is where it really jumps the shark when they say that banning males from women's sports is discriminateoy to women which is insane.