| Republicans obviously want you to elect Democrats. They want no part of governing and they need Democrats in office because their party is built around obstructing government functions and raising money by inventing paranoid conspiracy theories and imaginary grievances against Democrats in government. |
We are still making millions of arrests and seizing record amounts of drugs at the border. How are those open borders? |
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The laser focus on the Southern border is such an obvious dog whistle.
Without immigrants, our economy would crash and burn. You live the life you live on the backs of immigrants. If any one of you complaining about "open borders" actually mows your own lawn, I'll eat the clippings. |
What solutions are the Republicans offering to the problems you perceive with immigration and inflation? |
THIS. Biden's administration has turned away more migrants, deported more people in the country illegally, processed more asylum claims and interdicted more drugs at the boarder than at any time during the Trump Administration. And that is a per capital number, it isn't because there is more of it happening. Border security is more effective and efficient under this Administration. |
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OP back again.
Yes, indeed this has been an illuminating thread. Lots of people who say on other threads that both parties are the exact same thing. So I took them all at their word and have asked those people, as well as reliable Republicans, to make the case for why I, as a moderate, should vote for the GOP. We’re eight pages in and not one single Republican/Moderate/Independent has been able to make a case for their party. Lots of people pretending not to understand what I meant, lots of people halfway to insulting me, but not a one of you can make a cogent case for why I should cast a vote for a Republican candidate at any level. |
If you need to ask why you should vote Republican then you are already brain dead. |
They're not. They parrot singular metrics or incidents and say it's "open border." And FTR, what's happening has been happening since GWB and that is because it's not easy and there is no easy solutions. Desperate people will find a way to flee to what they perceive as a better life. No wall. No police. Nothing would keep me out if I thought I had a fraction of a percentage of giving my children a better life. You cannot wall off that. You can't arrest that. You can't stop that. |
| The “moderates” who want a “moderate” independent candidate to run are all Trump supporters. |
Why should they bother? You were obviously disingenuous. I’m not voting Republican but wouldn’t answer you either. |
Most are not. They won’t vote for trump, many won’t vote GOP. They will however look down ticket beyond the presidential election to all the way down to municipal elections and not use party affiliation as their sole voting criteria. They may happen to vote for the same party all the way down this time or not. |
+100000 |
And yet you couldn't bother to answer the question. It's not disingenuous. I don't even know what the GOP's platform is these days. What are you running on other than being against the Democrats? |
😂 It would be even funnier if it wasn’t so close to popular online conspiracy theories … |
This is the OP and the above PP wasn’t me, though they are correct. We are repeatedly told by Moderates and Independents that the GOP and the Democrats are the exact same thing. Most people are going to vote for one or the other, so I laid out my issues and asked some of the people who say that the parties are the same, as well as Republicans who would only ever support the GOP, why I should give a vote to a Republican candidate. That’s not disingenuous, that’s a dialogue and I’ve asked respectfully. Still not a single person has made a case for why I, a liberty loving Moderate voter, should vote for the GOP. I know that some of you want to think that I’m asking in bad faith, but you should ask yourself why you think that way and why you can’t present any reasons that the GOP will work for what I believe in. Which is, again, supported by a majority of American voters. |