FCPS not following the new state models

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So basically we will have male sports and then co-ed sports?

Male bathrooms and co-ed bathrooms?

Love our forward thinking school board.

No. Cis girls and trans girls will play girls' sports and use women's restrooms. Cis boys and trans boys will play boys' sports and use men's restrooms.

And, in most cut sports, girls will be cut from the team because of "trans girls" if there are any competing. And, they will be losing in important competitions. This is already happening.

Trans people are maybe 1.5% of the population, being generous. They are not causing girls to be cut from teams. That is not mathematically possible.

It’s a manufactured issue. They DGAF about facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is already happening in swimming tennis and track. Read the news.

How many thousands of HS and college athletes are there?

Fake issue pushed by bigots and politicians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there guidelines for who is allowed to use the restrooms? In other words, are there guidelines to determine who is trans and who is not? What about non-binary? Which restrooms do they use?

Inquiring minds would like to know if middle school boys can just decide one day to use the girls' bathrooms?

Are there specific rules/policies on this?

I have not seen them.

There are no guidelines.

Any boy, or male staff member, at any time or reason can walk into a girls bathroom or locker room in fcps, as long as they claim to feel trans or non binary at that moment.

There is zero gatekeeping and no parent permission or notification required.

If you opt your kid out of FLE or any lesson involving trans information of any kind, FCPS allows your kid to opt themselves back into the lesson without parent notification and in defiance of parent written opt out, according to Dr. Reid at her parent meet and greet last fall at our region 4 high school. Dr. Reid confirmed this is FCPS policy, verbally, not once, but twice in front of an auditorium full of parents.

Putting parent notification in place provides gatekeeping and protection that is beneficial to all students.

FCPS overriding parental opt out and written wishes, and deliberately hiding information from parents, especially given safety risks for female students AND trans students, and given the increased suicide and self harm risks by trans students, is ethically and morally wrong and should be illegal.

In what other situation would a school deliberately hide from parents student information that carried a significant risk of suicide and self harm?

Parents are the ones who will pick up the pieces if something goes wrong, not schools. Parents are part of a childs life for a lifetime, not Dr. Reid or the school board members. Parents are the ones who love, cherish and provide for their children, not Dr. Reid.

Not all families. Look at the ones who want to keep their kids ignorant. They care more about politics than caring for their own kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:OP- I don’t care that they aren’t following the state models.

I am posting this so you know that I, a fellow FCPS parent, don’t care.

I disagree with trying to call FCPS out on this and expect outrage.

If you don’t like the screener, opt out. If you can get on DCUM, you can opt them out. Do it and leave the fake outrage behind.

You don't care that your kid's responses are linked to him and that this info is being used by a company with the sole purpose of making money funded by VC. Or that your kid's time is being wasted answering stupid questions? Even though I opted my kids out of the SEL, they still told me about surveys they had to take all year long during study hall. My kids have told me the surveys are viewed as a joke, at least at the middle and high school level. Where is the contract for all those surveys? How much do those cost? Also, our school is spending tons of money on training teachers in SBG and more to other consultants to align tests and grading. Lowering class size and increasing teacher pay are 2 things that would actually have an impact on learning. Every initiative, the strategic plan, equity/equal outcomes for all, ect...all result in a contract for outside consultants. Here is one for 455k for the strategic plan: https://defendinged.org/incidents/fairfax-county-public-school-superintendent-awards-sole-source-contract-for-465000-with-company-she-worked-with-previously-to-achieve-equal-outcomes-without-exception/

I doubt only 455k was spent on the strategic plan. Is there a point, an amount of money spent on all of this nonsense, that would bother you?

You can opt out of data sharing with other companies. I don’t care. I opted my kid out. I don’t care if they waste a little bit of money. I just don’t. Do you think Verizon honestly uses every penny wisely that I give to them. They don’t. Why have a different standard for a large school system vs large corporation? Cause taxes? Please. Capitalism doesn’t always work and waste just happens when things get big. This is one thing I’m not wasting my time on. I don’t care.

A public school system is funded by my tax dollars, the single person living in an apartment's tax dollars, the high schooler working at McDonald's tax dollars, the empty nesters' tax dollars....

Schools are publicly funded 100% by tax dollars. They are not even remotely close to a private or public for profit company like Verizon, that you can choose whether or not to puchase from.

How one could ever make this comparison between a cell phone company and a public school systems waste of taxpayer dollars is beyond logic.

You do not get to earmark your tax dollars. Neither do I. I can think of more than a few things I'd like to fund, and others that I'd like to withhold. So, just b/c you're a taxpayer . . . I mean. Oh well. And the "taxpayer" is not a monolith with different views on this, and lots of other, topics. Yours is not more important just b/c you are Really Very Upset over it.

Sorry.

A public school has zero connection to a private company like Verizon.

Every taxpayer has the right to demand better stewardship of funds from our government entities, including public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there guidelines for who is allowed to use the restrooms? In other words, are there guidelines to determine who is trans and who is not? What about non-binary? Which restrooms do they use?

Inquiring minds would like to know if middle school boys can just decide one day to use the girls' bathrooms?

Are there specific rules/policies on this?

I have not seen them.

There are no guidelines.

Any boy, or male staff member, at any time or reason can walk into a girls bathroom or locker room in fcps, as long as they claim to feel trans or non binary at that moment.

There is zero gatekeeping and no parent permission or notification required.

If you opt your kid out of FLE or any lesson involving trans information of any kind, FCPS allows your kid to opt themselves back into the lesson without parent notification and in defiance of parent written opt out, according to Dr. Reid at her parent meet and greet last fall at our region 4 high school. Dr. Reid confirmed this is FCPS policy, verbally, not once, but twice in front of an auditorium full of parents.

Putting parent notification in place provides gatekeeping and protection that is beneficial to all students.

FCPS overriding parental opt out and written wishes, and deliberately hiding information from parents, especially given safety risks for female students AND trans students, and given the increased suicide and self harm risks by trans students, is ethically and morally wrong and should be illegal.

In what other situation would a school deliberately hide from parents student information that carried a significant risk of suicide and self harm?

Parents are the ones who will pick up the pieces if something goes wrong, not schools. Parents are part of a childs life for a lifetime, not Dr. Reid or the school board members. Parents are the ones who love, cherish and provide for their children, not Dr. Reid.

Not all families. Look at the ones who want to keep their kids ignorant. They care more about politics than caring for their own kids.

Oh, please.

Parents are the ones who love their children over their lifetimes. And sometimes love means saying no, as well as teaching kids what is popular and trendy is often very wrong with lifetime negative consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are these new state level model policies? Can someone link to them?

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/programs-services/student-services/student-assistance-programming/gender-diversity

Recent discussions surrounding Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) have brought to light an important query: Why does FCPS seek to influence and guide students in realms beyond education, without involving parents? This question strikes at the heart of a key principle—parents shape not only their children's education but also their social and personal development.

The essence of education extends far beyond textbooks—it encompasses the holistic growth of our youth. From educational choices to social interactions and personal beliefs, parents play a pivotal role in shaping these aspects until the age of 18.

The 2023 Model Policies emphasize parental involvement in educational matters. However, we must also ponder the boundaries of FCPS's involvement in other areas of our children's lives. Unless parents willingly relinquish their rights, it is crucial that FCPS focuses on education, respecting the vital role parents play in guiding their children's values and choices.

As we continue our conversations, let's uphold the importance of parental influence and the shared commitment to our children's growth within a supportive community.

This sounds like talking point may mom’s for liberty would give to members to spread on social media

DP. Can you be specific about what you disagree with. I didn't know that Moms for liberty existed until a progressive person replied to someone's comment this way on another thread. I had to look it up. I'm assuming "ok Assra" is also meant to be some sort of insult to shut someone up instead of actually having a dialogue - I don't know what Assra is. Everyone you disagree with is not part of some far right group. I thought this poster's comment was very thoughtful and well written. I was just having a discussion with a friend the other day along these lines: the primary focus of FCPS does not seem to be on education and academic excellence. Every email I get from Reid seems to be focused on something that I don't care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP- I don’t care that they aren’t following the state models.

I am posting this so you know that I, a fellow FCPS parent, don’t care.

I disagree with trying to call FCPS out on this and expect outrage.

If you don’t like the screener, opt out. If you can get on DCUM, you can opt them out. Do it and leave the fake outrage behind.

You don't care that your kid's responses are linked to him and that this info is being used by a company with the sole purpose of making money funded by VC. Or that your kid's time is being wasted answering stupid questions? Even though I opted my kids out of the SEL, they still told me about surveys they had to take all year long during study hall. My kids have told me the surveys are viewed as a joke, at least at the middle and high school level. Where is the contract for all those surveys? How much do those cost? Also, our school is spending tons of money on training teachers in SBG and more to other consultants to align tests and grading. Lowering class size and increasing teacher pay are 2 things that would actually have an impact on learning. Every initiative, the strategic plan, equity/equal outcomes for all, ect...all result in a contract for outside consultants. Here is one for 455k for the strategic plan: https://defendinged.org/incidents/fairfax-county-public-school-superintendent-awards-sole-source-contract-for-465000-with-company-she-worked-with-previously-to-achieve-equal-outcomes-without-exception/

I doubt only 455k was spent on the strategic plan. Is there a point, an amount of money spent on all of this nonsense, that would bother you?

You can opt out of data sharing with other companies. I don’t care. I opted my kid out. I don’t care if they waste a little bit of money. I just don’t. Do you think Verizon honestly uses every penny wisely that I give to them. They don’t. Why have a different standard for a large school system vs large corporation? Cause taxes? Please. Capitalism doesn’t always work and waste just happens when things get big. This is one thing I’m not wasting my time on. I don’t care.

A public school system is funded by my tax dollars, the single person living in an apartment's tax dollars, the high schooler working at McDonald's tax dollars, the empty nesters' tax dollars....

Schools are publicly funded 100% by tax dollars. They are not even remotely close to a private or public for profit company like Verizon, that you can choose whether or not to puchase from.

How one could ever make this comparison between a cell phone company and a public school systems waste of taxpayer dollars is beyond logic.

You do not get to earmark your tax dollars. Neither do I. I can think of more than a few things I'd like to fund, and others that I'd like to withhold. So, just b/c you're a taxpayer . . . I mean. Oh well. And the "taxpayer" is not a monolith with different views on this, and lots of other, topics. Yours is not more important just b/c you are Really Very Upset over it.

Sorry.

A public school has zero connection to a private company like Verizon.

Every taxpayer has the right to demand better stewardship of funds from our government entities, including public schools.

Ok. You should write a strongly worded letter to the manager.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are these new state level model policies? Can someone link to them?

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/programs-services/student-services/student-assistance-programming/gender-diversity

Recent discussions surrounding Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) have brought to light an important query: Why does FCPS seek to influence and guide students in realms beyond education, without involving parents? This question strikes at the heart of a key principle—parents shape not only their children's education but also their social and personal development.

The essence of education extends far beyond textbooks—it encompasses the holistic growth of our youth. From educational choices to social interactions and personal beliefs, parents play a pivotal role in shaping these aspects until the age of 18.

The 2023 Model Policies emphasize parental involvement in educational matters. However, we must also ponder the boundaries of FCPS's involvement in other areas of our children's lives. Unless parents willingly relinquish their rights, it is crucial that FCPS focuses on education, respecting the vital role parents play in guiding their children's values and choices.

As we continue our conversations, let's uphold the importance of parental influence and the shared commitment to our children's growth within a supportive community.

This sounds like talking point may mom’s for liberty would give to members to spread on social media

DP. Can you be specific about what you disagree with. I didn't know that Moms for liberty existed until a progressive person replied to someone's comment this way on another thread. I had to look it up. I'm assuming "ok Assra" is also meant to be some sort of insult to shut someone up instead of actually having a dialogue - I don't know what Assra is. Everyone you disagree with is not part of some far right group. I thought this poster's comment was very thoughtful and well written. I was just having a discussion with a friend the other day along these lines: the primary focus of FCPS does not seem to be on education and academic excellence. Every email I get from Reid seems to be focused on something that I don't care about.

That’s scary. If you are quoting certain groups you should know who they are and who pays their bills.

No wonder misinformation runs rampant. Too many people ignorantly push along propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are these new state level model policies? Can someone link to them?

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/programs-services/student-services/student-assistance-programming/gender-diversity

Recent discussions surrounding Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) have brought to light an important query: Why does FCPS seek to influence and guide students in realms beyond education, without involving parents? This question strikes at the heart of a key principle—parents shape not only their children's education but also their social and personal development.

The essence of education extends far beyond textbooks—it encompasses the holistic growth of our youth. From educational choices to social interactions and personal beliefs, parents play a pivotal role in shaping these aspects until the age of 18.

The 2023 Model Policies emphasize parental involvement in educational matters. However, we must also ponder the boundaries of FCPS's involvement in other areas of our children's lives. Unless parents willingly relinquish their rights, it is crucial that FCPS focuses on education, respecting the vital role parents play in guiding their children's values and choices.

As we continue our conversations, let's uphold the importance of parental influence and the shared commitment to our children's growth within a supportive community.

This sounds like talking point may mom’s for liberty would give to members to spread on social media

Exactly

[Anonymous]

It's too bad Socratic method is not taught in schools. Let's just call each other names. So productive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there guidelines for who is allowed to use the restrooms? In other words, are there guidelines to determine who is trans and who is not? What about non-binary? Which restrooms do they use?

Inquiring minds would like to know if middle school boys can just decide one day to use the girls' bathrooms?

Are there specific rules/policies on this?

I have not seen them.

There are no guidelines.

Any boy, or male staff member, at any time or reason can walk into a girls bathroom or locker room in fcps, as long as they claim to feel trans or non binary at that moment.

There is zero gatekeeping and no parent permission or notification required.

If you opt your kid out of FLE or any lesson involving trans information of any kind, FCPS allows your kid to opt themselves back into the lesson without parent notification and in defiance of parent written opt out, according to Dr. Reid at her parent meet and greet last fall at our region 4 high school. Dr. Reid confirmed this is FCPS policy, verbally, not once, but twice in front of an auditorium full of parents.

Putting parent notification in place provides gatekeeping and protection that is beneficial to all students.

FCPS overriding parental opt out and written wishes, and deliberately hiding information from parents, especially given safety risks for female students AND trans students, and given the increased suicide and self harm risks by trans students, is ethically and morally wrong and should be illegal.

In what other situation would a school deliberately hide from parents student information that carried a significant risk of suicide and self harm?

Parents are the ones who will pick up the pieces if something goes wrong, not schools. Parents are part of a childs life for a lifetime, not Dr. Reid or the school board members. Parents are the ones who love, cherish and provide for their children, not Dr. Reid.

Not all families. Look at the ones who want to keep their kids ignorant. They care more about politics than caring for their own kids.

Oh, please.

Parents are the ones who love their children over their lifetimes. And sometimes love means saying no, as well as teaching kids what is popular and trendy is often very wrong with lifetime negative consequences.

Fortunately, our schools try to protect kids from bigots. Unfortunately, they probably are stuck with the bigots until they are 18.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there guidelines for who is allowed to use the restrooms? In other words, are there guidelines to determine who is trans and who is not? What about non-binary? Which restrooms do they use?

Inquiring minds would like to know if middle school boys can just decide one day to use the girls' bathrooms?

Are there specific rules/policies on this?

I have not seen them.

There are no guidelines.

Any boy, or male staff member, at any time or reason can walk into a girls bathroom or locker room in fcps, as long as they claim to feel trans or non binary at that moment.

There is zero gatekeeping and no parent permission or notification required.

If you opt your kid out of FLE or any lesson involving trans information of any kind, FCPS allows your kid to opt themselves back into the lesson without parent notification and in defiance of parent written opt out, according to Dr. Reid at her parent meet and greet last fall at our region 4 high school. Dr. Reid confirmed this is FCPS policy, verbally, not once, but twice in front of an auditorium full of parents.

Putting parent notification in place provides gatekeeping and protection that is beneficial to all students.

FCPS overriding parental opt out and written wishes, and deliberately hiding information from parents, especially given safety risks for female students AND trans students, and given the increased suicide and self harm risks by trans students, is ethically and morally wrong and should be illegal.

In what other situation would a school deliberately hide from parents student information that carried a significant risk of suicide and self harm?

Parents are the ones who will pick up the pieces if something goes wrong, not schools. Parents are part of a childs life for a lifetime, not Dr. Reid or the school board members. Parents are the ones who love, cherish and provide for their children, not Dr. Reid.

Not all families. Look at the ones who want to keep their kids ignorant. They care more about politics than caring for their own kids.

Oh, please.

Parents are the ones who love their children over their lifetimes. And sometimes love means saying no, as well as teaching kids what is popular and trendy is often very wrong with lifetime negative consequences.

Fortunately, our schools try to protect kids from bigots. Unfortunately, they probably are stuck with the bigots until they are 18.

I suspect PP is someone from the FLE committee. Several of them think anyone who disagrees with them is a bigot.

[Anonymous]

I read through the regulation linked in Reid's letter.

When they say student and/or parents---does that give them the OK to leave the parents out of the equation? Sounds kind of vague to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read through the regulation linked in Reid's letter.

When they say student and/or parents---does that give them the OK to leave the parents out of the equation? Sounds kind of vague to me.

+1 her email is unacceptable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there guidelines for who is allowed to use the restrooms? In other words, are there guidelines to determine who is trans and who is not? What about non-binary? Which restrooms do they use?

Inquiring minds would like to know if middle school boys can just decide one day to use the girls' bathrooms?

Are there specific rules/policies on this?

I have not seen them.

There are no guidelines.

Any boy, or male staff member, at any time or reason can walk into a girls bathroom or locker room in fcps, as long as they claim to feel trans or non binary at that moment.

There is zero gatekeeping and no parent permission or notification required.

If you opt your kid out of FLE or any lesson involving trans information of any kind, FCPS allows your kid to opt themselves back into the lesson without parent notification and in defiance of parent written opt out, according to Dr. Reid at her parent meet and greet last fall at our region 4 high school. Dr. Reid confirmed this is FCPS policy, verbally, not once, but twice in front of an auditorium full of parents.

Putting parent notification in place provides gatekeeping and protection that is beneficial to all students.

FCPS overriding parental opt out and written wishes, and deliberately hiding information from parents, especially given safety risks for female students AND trans students, and given the increased suicide and self harm risks by trans students, is ethically and morally wrong and should be illegal.

In what other situation would a school deliberately hide from parents student information that carried a significant risk of suicide and self harm?

Parents are the ones who will pick up the pieces if something goes wrong, not schools. Parents are part of a childs life for a lifetime, not Dr. Reid or the school board members. Parents are the ones who love, cherish and provide for their children, not Dr. Reid.

Not all families. Look at the ones who want to keep their kids ignorant. They care more about politics than caring for their own kids.

Completely agree. Some families keep their kids ignorant by allowing political activists teach them their version of Sex/Ed, regardless of any boundaries. They outsource that part of their children’s education to complete strangers, and trust that they know better than anyone, themselves included.

In the name of virtue signaling, they allow these gender activists to teach their version of transgenderism, which is NOT inclusive of stories of people who have regretted having transitioned when young and that they feel as if the adults in their lives failed to protect them. They are also not inclusive of experts opinions in the matter because they claim to know better than psychologists, endocrinologists, sociologists, and psychiatrists in the US and around the world who reject gender-affirming care because of the harm they have seen it causes to children.

What kind of parent keeps their kids ignorant and complicit of a crime committed towards kids with gender dysphoria who come to regret their gender-affirming care because of the irreversible damage done to them? My guess is parents who refuse to educate themselves outside of their political bubble.