FCPS not following the new state models

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

Making it automatic goes against the new models. Who do we complain to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

Making it automatic goes against the new models. Who do we complain to?

your Governor

[Anonymous]

Why do they need student names for this? I wouldn’t care at all if it was an anonymous survey, but the links say the company is being provided student names? What the hell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

FYI, this whole paragraph is called "stacking the deck" and all these talking points are led by the right wing parent groups, but not grounded in truth.
Here is why it exists and how FCPS uses it:
https://www.fcps.edu/resources/student-safety-and-wellness/social-and-emotional-learning-sel
Here is the company https://www.panoramaed.com/ (note, M Zuckerburg is an investor, and the company is not at all connected with FB/Meta)

HEre is the privacy statement; FCPS shares limited student data with Panorama Education for students participating in the screener. This data includes: student name, student ID, school, student email, grade level, graduation year, gender, ethnicity, Advanced Academic Programs (AAP) status, English learner (EL) status, and special education (SPED) status. If a student is opted out of the screener, FCPS stops sharing new data with Panorama Education. Previous screener results and demographic data remains in the Panorama platform unless a data deletion is requested.

Panorama Education has signed FCPS data confidentiality agreements that ensures they maintain confidentiality of any data they receive. Agreeing to limit the use of student data to only the purpose for which it is collected is one of the requirements of this agreement. Additionally, Panorama Education complies with all applicable federal laws, including Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.

Absolutely opt out but do so based on facts, not propaganda.

tl:dr - republicans are liars

Every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

Making it automatic goes against the new models. Who do we complain to?

There are zero consequences for going against a “model“.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

Really just having the chromebook and e-mail run by Google violates student privacy, unless Google is telling the truth about not using this data.
They will have a lot more than what is in this survey. E-mails, networks of friends and acquaintances. phone numbers and addresses, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

Really just having the chromebook and e-mail run by Google violates student privacy, unless Google is telling the truth about not using this data.

They will have a lot more than what is in this survey. E-mails, networks of friends and acquaintances. phone numbers and addresses, etc.

Our school doesn’t issue chromebooks, just Dell laptops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You will get a notice before the surveys saying you can opt out. This qualifies.

The surveys need to be opt in.

Not opt out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

I am not a fan of the SEL screener, but to describe the questioning as “intimate” is a stretch.

Asking kids about their sexual habits, sexual orientation, drug use, depression, suicidal thoughts, drinking habits, family life, etc are by definition intimate, personal questions that FCPS has no right to share with a 3rd party for profit company.

The surveys are intimate, and identifiable, linked to a specific student.

They need to be opt in, not opt out.

If you want your kid to share all that stuff with FCPS, then opt them in.

I suspect if FCPS used opt in, only around 5 to 10% of parents would be willing to have their kids participate in this SEL survey, and the county sex and drugs survey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a SEL screener?

It is a survey about very intimate topics given to students with the data collected and maintained by a third party for profit company with distant ties to facebook. The survey and results are not private, as the data is tied to the specific minor FCPS student and their school issued computers. Basically it allows the private company to monetize intimate student information, which is a complete violation of their rights and data privacy.

FCPS has chosen to make this invasive survey automatic, unless the parents opt out.

FYI, this whole paragraph is called "stacking the deck" and all these talking points are led by the right wing parent groups, but not grounded in truth.
Here is why it exists and how FCPS uses it:
https://www.fcps.edu/resources/student-safety-and-wellness/social-and-emotional-learning-sel
Here is the company https://www.panoramaed.com/ (note, M Zuckerburg is an investor, and the company is not at all connected with FB/Meta)

HEre is the privacy statement; FCPS shares limited student data with Panorama Education for students participating in the screener. This data includes: student name, student ID, school, student email, grade level, graduation year, gender, ethnicity, Advanced Academic Programs (AAP) status, English learner (EL) status, and special education (SPED) status. If a student is opted out of the screener, FCPS stops sharing new data with Panorama Education. Previous screener results and demographic data remains in the Panorama platform unless a data deletion is requested.

Panorama Education has signed FCPS data confidentiality agreements that ensures they maintain confidentiality of any data they receive. Agreeing to limit the use of student data to only the purpose for which it is collected is one of the requirements of this agreement. Additionally, Panorama Education complies with all applicable federal laws, including Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.

Absolutely opt out but do so based on facts, not propaganda.

Concerns about Panorama Education, with cited references. https://defendinged.org/press-releases/pde-letter-us-senate-committee-data-mining-schoolchildren/

The linked article from "DefendingEd" discusses a letter addressed to the U.S. Senate Committee regarding concerns over the data mining of schoolchildren's information. The letter, submitted by the Parent Coalition for Student Privacy (PCSP), highlights the potential risks and privacy implications associated with the collection and use of students' personal data by educational technology companies. The PCSP expresses worries about the lack of transparency, informed consent, and security measures in place when it comes to handling sensitive student data. The letter emphasizes the need for stronger federal legislation to protect students' privacy rights and ensure that their data is not exploited or misused. It calls for more rigorous safeguards and transparency requirements to prevent data mining practices that could compromise the privacy and security of students' information. The PCSP's letter aims to draw attention to the importance of safeguarding students' data and advocating for stronger regulations to address the challenges posed by data mining in educational settings.

It. delves into a communication directed at the U.S. Senate Committee, which raises concerns about the data mining of schoolchildren's information. The letter, submitted by the Parent Coalition for Student Privacy (PCSP), underlines potential risks and privacy implications linked to the collection and utilization of students' personal data by educational technology companies. The PCSP voices apprehensions about the lack of transparency, informed consent, and security measures when handling sensitive student data. A central point of the letter is the call for more robust federal legislation to safeguard students' privacy rights and to prevent the exploitation or misuse of their data. The PCSP advocates for increased safeguards and transparency requirements to thwart data mining practices that could compromise students' privacy and data security. Ultimately, the PCSP's letter seeks to raise awareness of the need to protect students' data and to advocate for stronger regulations to tackle the challenges posed by data mining in educational contexts.

[Anonymous]

There was a parent who spoke about these surveys at our pyramid's meet and greet with Dr. Reid, requesting that the number of surveys be significantly decreased, specifically the SEL and county sex/drugs type surveys, and that the district switch to an opt in permission slip model for surveys, eliminating the opt out out format currently used by by FCPS.

The appause by the parents attending was overwhelming, including all of the liberal parents, some of whom are very politically active on local political offices.

One parent then spoke in favor of the surveys and the opt out model. She was met by polite silence by the parents in attendance.

This is not a republican vs democrat issue. Anyone who claims this is a fool, and likely not a parent.

Protecting student data privacy should be one of the foremost responsibilities of the schools.

An opt in process will allow their private teenage musings to be a bit more secure.

If FCPS truly believed that they were in the right and that parents wanted all these surveys, then they would embrace an opt in permission model. The fact that FCPS refuses to, down to reseting opt outs back to opt in every school year in SIS, sometimes mid year, speaks volumes about their intentions.

The non parents here might be shocked, but guess what? Liberal parents want their kids' data privacy protected too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was a parent who spoke about these surveys at our pyramid's meet and greet with Dr. Reid, requesting that the number of surveys be significantly decreased, specifically the SEL and county sex/drugs type surveys, and that the district switch to an opt in permission slip model for surveys, eliminating the opt out out format currently used by by FCPS.

The appause by the parents attending was overwhelming, including all of the liberal parents, some of whom are very politically active on local political offices.

One parent then spoke in favor of the surveys and the opt out model. She was met by polite silence by the parents in attendance.

This is not a republican vs democrat issue. Anyone who claims this is a fool, and likely not a parent.

Protecting student data privacy should be one of the foremost responsibilities of the schools.

An opt in process will allow their private teenage musings to be a bit more secure.

If FCPS truly believed that they were in the right and that parents wanted all these surveys, then they would embrace an opt in permission model. The fact that FCPS refuses to, down to reseting opt outs back to opt in every school year in SIS, sometimes mid year, speaks volumes about their intentions.

The non parents here might be shocked, but guess what? Liberal parents want their kids' data privacy protected too.

You damn well know this isn’t about privacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a parent who spoke about these surveys at our pyramid's meet and greet with Dr. Reid, requesting that the number of surveys be significantly decreased, specifically the SEL and county sex/drugs type surveys, and that the district switch to an opt in permission slip model for surveys, eliminating the opt out out format currently used by by FCPS.

The appause by the parents attending was overwhelming, including all of the liberal parents, some of whom are very politically active on local political offices.

One parent then spoke in favor of the surveys and the opt out model. She was met by polite silence by the parents in attendance.

This is not a republican vs democrat issue. Anyone who claims this is a fool, and likely not a parent.

Protecting student data privacy should be one of the foremost responsibilities of the schools.

An opt in process will allow their private teenage musings to be a bit more secure.

If FCPS truly believed that they were in the right and that parents wanted all these surveys, then they would embrace an opt in permission model. The fact that FCPS refuses to, down to reseting opt outs back to opt in every school year in SIS, sometimes mid year, speaks volumes about their intentions.

The non parents here might be shocked, but guess what? Liberal parents want their kids' data privacy protected too.

You damn well know this isn’t about privacy.

You are very wrong.

Liberal parents want the opt in model abolished too.

Liberal parents also want fewer invasive, personal surveys administered by FCPS.

Liberal parents want the same thing conservative parents want for their kids in this area. Liberal parents want data privacy too.

FCPS needs to stop handing the reigns to childless activists who are working against parents and students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a parent who spoke about these surveys at our pyramid's meet and greet with Dr. Reid, requesting that the number of surveys be significantly decreased, specifically the SEL and county sex/drugs type surveys, and that the district switch to an opt in permission slip model for surveys, eliminating the opt out out format currently used by by FCPS.

The appause by the parents attending was overwhelming, including all of the liberal parents, some of whom are very politically active on local political offices.

One parent then spoke in favor of the surveys and the opt out model. She was met by polite silence by the parents in attendance.

This is not a republican vs democrat issue. Anyone who claims this is a fool, and likely not a parent.

Protecting student data privacy should be one of the foremost responsibilities of the schools.

An opt in process will allow their private teenage musings to be a bit more secure.

If FCPS truly believed that they were in the right and that parents wanted all these surveys, then they would embrace an opt in permission model. The fact that FCPS refuses to, down to reseting opt outs back to opt in every school year in SIS, sometimes mid year, speaks volumes about their intentions.

The non parents here might be shocked, but guess what? Liberal parents want their kids' data privacy protected too.

You damn well know this isn’t about privacy.

You are very wrong.

Liberal parents want the opt in model abolished too.

Liberal parents also want fewer invasive, personal surveys administered by FCPS.

Liberal parents want the same thing conservative parents want for their kids in this area. Liberal parents want data privacy too.

FCPS needs to stop handing the reigns to childless activists who are working against parents and students.

This is a problem of the FCPS forum getting fenced off from the VA School forum.

FCPS is not making up these surveys. They're used throughout the state according to VDOE SEL guidance.

https://www.panoramaed.com/blog/virginia-school-divisions-measuring-supporting-sel

Go complain to the VDOE. Not Reid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a parent who spoke about these surveys at our pyramid's meet and greet with Dr. Reid, requesting that the number of surveys be significantly decreased, specifically the SEL and county sex/drugs type surveys, and that the district switch to an opt in permission slip model for surveys, eliminating the opt out out format currently used by by FCPS.

The appause by the parents attending was overwhelming, including all of the liberal parents, some of whom are very politically active on local political offices.

One parent then spoke in favor of the surveys and the opt out model. She was met by polite silence by the parents in attendance.

This is not a republican vs democrat issue. Anyone who claims this is a fool, and likely not a parent.

Protecting student data privacy should be one of the foremost responsibilities of the schools.

An opt in process will allow their private teenage musings to be a bit more secure.

If FCPS truly believed that they were in the right and that parents wanted all these surveys, then they would embrace an opt in permission model. The fact that FCPS refuses to, down to reseting opt outs back to opt in every school year in SIS, sometimes mid year, speaks volumes about their intentions.

The non parents here might be shocked, but guess what? Liberal parents want their kids' data privacy protected too.

You damn well know this isn’t about privacy.

You are very wrong.

Liberal parents want the opt in model abolished too.

Liberal parents also want fewer invasive, personal surveys administered by FCPS.

Liberal parents want the same thing conservative parents want for their kids in this area. Liberal parents want data privacy too.

FCPS needs to stop handing the reigns to childless activists who are working against parents and students.

This is a problem of the FCPS forum getting fenced off from the VA School forum.

FCPS is not making up these surveys. They're used throughout the state according to VDOE SEL guidance.

https://www.panoramaed.com/blog/virginia-school-divisions-measuring-supporting-sel

Go complain to the VDOE. Not Reid.

Refusing to switch from opt out to permission opt in is on Reid and FCPS.