Europe investigating suicidal thoughts with weight loss drugs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many epic and profoundly un-self-aware temper tantrums from the “it’s all willpower and your emotional problems” crowd.

So many PHRMA lobbyist posts like this ITT.

Maybe this is some sort of try out for them before they are introduced to the real propaganda machine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's my theory: many overweight and obese people eat to soothe their emotional pain. Take away or diminish appetite and there's no mode of self soothing. Without that comfort, the pain emerges and the suicide ideation begins or they find something else to soothe the pain. See also: gastric surgery patients who become alcoholics.

It’s this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many epic and profoundly un-self-aware temper tantrums from the “it’s all willpower and your emotional problems” crowd.

I’m really enjoying it, honestly. It’s the total lack of self awareness that makes it funny. If it’s all willpower and emotional problems, as they say and you joke about, then nothing could make that different and no one would be losing any weight on this.

I mostly come to these threads to watch the fat shamers rage.

Correspondingly, it’s hilarious how there are large groups of snow flakes that refuse to accept it’s possible obesity is not an accident for every single person afflicted with that problem, and in a large number of instances it’s in fact self inflicted based on poor lifestyle choices entirely of their own making. The DC area is rife with examples of people with
more than enough means to address their own shortcomings and poor choices, yet they aren’t doing it. Instead you have people scrambling to get drugs designed to prevent people from dying prematurely.

So which is it, obesity is so dangerously unsafe and it’s good that there’s a tool or it’s wrong and bad and is only being given out as a vanity drug? You don’t even notice how you’ve contradicted yourself starting with “snow flakes” and blaming people for their obesity but then you roll down to implying that people who get Ozempic are just getting vanity drugs.

I say again: I am really enjoying this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not surprised by this at all. Rimonabant is a cannabinoid antagonist that was approved in Europe for weight loss but never made it to the shelves here in the U.S. because it caused depression in a fair number of users. Dieting triggers depression in many people. A large caloric deficit can do that. These reports don't mean they need to pull ozempic off the shelves, it means it's something people need to be aware of when they start the medication, particularly if they have preexisting mental health conditions.

As people have said: it’s already in the little warning packet. It’s there. People are aware of it.

And the people I know on it? Ozempic is allowing them to eat like they’re supposed to - like humans are meant to - without feeling the utter agony of dieting. Dieting that fails in 95% of all attempts. This is changing the odds and providing people another tool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not surprised by this at all. Rimonabant is a cannabinoid antagonist that was approved in Europe for weight loss but never made it to the shelves here in the U.S. because it caused depression in a fair number of users. Dieting triggers depression in many people. A large caloric deficit can do that. These reports don't mean they need to pull ozempic off the shelves, it means it's something people need to be aware of when they start the medication, particularly if they have preexisting mental health conditions.

As people have said: it’s already in the little warning packet. It’s there. People are aware of it.

And the people I know on it? Ozempic is allowing them to eat like they’re supposed to - like humans are meant to - without feeling the utter agony of dieting. Dieting that fails in 95% of all attempts. This is changing the odds and providing people another tool.

You are destroying your liver

[Anonymous]

Whooo boy. These threads always bring about angry people who are jealous of those that lost (and kept) weight off naturally.

I mean look, losing weight by dealing with your food issues and exercise is incredibly beneficial for your mental health. It just is. Them's the facts.

Taking a weightloss drug to help you lose weight... look I hope you're successful, but for your own benefit, exercise at least 5 days a week. Not for your weight, but for your brain. It'll help you untangle the mental stuff connected to your body and overeating, that just cannot come from a pill.

It's not just about losing weight and being skinny - most people overeat for reasons that are emotionally/mentally unhealthy, even if they aren't aware of it. The brain stuff comes with the body stuff, and you can't just do one and assume all will be better once you "lose the weight."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not surprised by this at all. Rimonabant is a cannabinoid antagonist that was approved in Europe for weight loss but never made it to the shelves here in the U.S. because it caused depression in a fair number of users. Dieting triggers depression in many people. A large caloric deficit can do that. These reports don't mean they need to pull ozempic off the shelves, it means it's something people need to be aware of when they start the medication, particularly if they have preexisting mental health conditions.

As people have said: it’s already in the little warning packet. It’s there. People are aware of it.

And the people I know on it? Ozempic is allowing them to eat like they’re supposed to - like humans are meant to - without feeling the utter agony of dieting. Dieting that fails in 95% of all attempts. This is changing the odds and providing people another tool.

You are destroying your liver

You cannot say this definitively. It’s a risk, but one that can be managed. Like all things in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not surprised by this at all. Rimonabant is a cannabinoid antagonist that was approved in Europe for weight loss but never made it to the shelves here in the U.S. because it caused depression in a fair number of users. Dieting triggers depression in many people. A large caloric deficit can do that. These reports don't mean they need to pull ozempic off the shelves, it means it's something people need to be aware of when they start the medication, particularly if they have preexisting mental health conditions.

As people have said: it’s already in the little warning packet. It’s there. People are aware of it.

And the people I know on it? Ozempic is allowing them to eat like they’re supposed to - like humans are meant to - without feeling the utter agony of dieting. Dieting that fails in 95% of all attempts. This is changing the odds and providing people another tool.

You are destroying your liver

I’m not taking Ozempic. Are you implying I drink?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whooo boy. These threads always bring about angry people who are jealous of those that lost (and kept) weight off naturally.

I mean look, losing weight by dealing with your food issues and exercise is incredibly beneficial for your mental health. It just is. Them's the facts.

Taking a weightloss drug to help you lose weight... look I hope you're successful, but for your own benefit, exercise at least 5 days a week. Not for your weight, but for your brain. It'll help you untangle the mental stuff connected to your body and overeating, that just cannot come from a pill.

It's not just about losing weight and being skinny - most people overeat for reasons that are emotionally/mentally unhealthy, even if they aren't aware of it. The brain stuff comes with the body stuff, and you can't just do one and assume all will be better once you "lose the weight."

What’s weird is that fat shamers like you assume fat people aren’t already exercising and that people who take Ozempic aren’t working on themselves.

Why don’t you start obsessing over the fat skinny people? If anyone’s health is in jeopardy, it’s the people whose bodies appear skinny but are suffering from all the metabolic problems of unhealthy obesity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not surprised by this at all. Rimonabant is a cannabinoid antagonist that was approved in Europe for weight loss but never made it to the shelves here in the U.S. because it caused depression in a fair number of users. Dieting triggers depression in many people. A large caloric deficit can do that. These reports don't mean they need to pull ozempic off the shelves, it means it's something people need to be aware of when they start the medication, particularly if they have preexisting mental health conditions.

As people have said: it’s already in the little warning packet. It’s there. People are aware of it.

And the people I know on it? Ozempic is allowing them to eat like they’re supposed to - like humans are meant to - without feeling the utter agony of dieting. Dieting that fails in 95% of all attempts. This is changing the odds and providing people another tool.

You are destroying your liver

How so? Be specific.

After a year on Ozempic my liver enzymes are absolutely impeccable after being borderline or mildly high for several years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whooo boy. These threads always bring about angry people who are jealous of those that lost (and kept) weight off naturally.

I mean look, losing weight by dealing with your food issues and exercise is incredibly beneficial for your mental health. It just is. Them's the facts.

Taking a weightloss drug to help you lose weight... look I hope you're successful, but for your own benefit, exercise at least 5 days a week. Not for your weight, but for your brain. It'll help you untangle the mental stuff connected to your body and overeating, that just cannot come from a pill.

It's not just about losing weight and being skinny - most people overeat for reasons that are emotionally/mentally unhealthy, even if they aren't aware of it. The brain stuff comes with the body stuff, and you can't just do one and assume all will be better once you "lose the weight."

What’s weird is that fat shamers like you assume fat people aren’t already exercising and that people who take Ozempic aren’t working on themselves.

Why don’t you start obsessing over the fat skinny people? If anyone’s health is in jeopardy, it’s the people whose bodies appear skinny but are suffering from all the metabolic problems of unhealthy obesity.

Where did I fat shame anyone? Whatever you're doing to work on yourself clearly isn't working, because holy cow your anger is seriously misplaced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whooo boy. These threads always bring about angry people who are jealous of those that lost (and kept) weight off naturally.

I mean look, losing weight by dealing with your food issues and exercise is incredibly beneficial for your mental health. It just is. Them's the facts.

Taking a weightloss drug to help you lose weight... look I hope you're successful, but for your own benefit, exercise at least 5 days a week. Not for your weight, but for your brain. It'll help you untangle the mental stuff connected to your body and overeating, that just cannot come from a pill.

It's not just about losing weight and being skinny - most people overeat for reasons that are emotionally/mentally unhealthy, even if they aren't aware of it. The brain stuff comes with the body stuff, and you can't just do one and assume all will be better once you "lose the weight."

What’s weird is that fat shamers like you assume fat people aren’t already exercising and that people who take Ozempic aren’t working on themselves.

Why don’t you start obsessing over the fat skinny people? If anyone’s health is in jeopardy, it’s the people whose bodies appear skinny but are suffering from all the metabolic problems of unhealthy obesity.

You two are just different sides of the same coin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how Ozempic has completely unmasked fat shamers.

It has also provided an easy way out for the overweight and obese.

Using the phrase "easy way out" really tells the tale. As if one's weight is an indication of moral fiber.

[Anonymous]

I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll bet there's quite a bit of overlap between people who think that being skinny "naturally" is the only good body type and those who reject vaccines because only "natural immunity" is good.

Yup. Same dim energy. We already know that one of the angry fat-shamers is an anti-vaxxer.