Disturbing instance of anti-woke brainwashing

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if he were saying the same thing, but talking about, say, conservative parents and reversing the names of the politicians, you wouldn't bat an eye.

Also, super weird that you think a pizza guy shouldn't have political views that differ from a rich person.


Here’s the thing:
We don’t talk about or even think about “conservative parents” unless you’re doing batsh#t crazy things like trying to ban books or threatening our teachers or local school board. Like, you’re not a topic of conversation in our lives unless you’re getting up to some crazy-ass stuff. Going back to your point - I would definitely be weirded out if someone I knew said “Conservative parents must be destroyed and eliminated.” However, the more likely scenario is that such words would never be uttered because I surround myself with stable people.

This gets to the rub of the matter:
why does “Woke” - a fictional concept - live rent-free in conservatives’ heads?


I can't speak for conservatives because I am liberal. However, some of the craziest woke ideas are actually being implemented in progressive places such as NoVA and MoCo. Normal people of all political affiliations are fed up and they're starting to push back.


What are these woke ideas, exactly?
The worst is allowing males to play girls' sports in school. Doing this in K-5 is OK, in middle school is less OK, in high school is completely insane and anti-science.


That’s not a woke idea. That’s the result of a SCOTUS decision penned by Justice Gorsuch before Biden was even elected.
Come on man. That wasn't a real case. "The Supreme Court’s brief order, which let stand an appeals court’s temporary injunction, gave no reasons, which is not unusual when the justices rule on emergency applications filed on what critics call the court’s shadow docket." We'll soon see a real case and the Supreme Court will prohibit males from playing girls' sports because this is what most sane people believe is fair. And you'll be right back here screeching about it and begging Biden to pack the court. So yes, allowing males to compete in girls' sports is woke, anti-science, and discriminatory against 50% of the population.


I’m talking about Bostock, which was a real case. The court did not grant cert to Virginia in the Grimm case.

I don’t give a damn about sports, and I never will, but let’s not pretend a bunch of libs voted for Gorsuch to make this happen, mmkay?
Come on man. That's not related to what I said, even a little. Bostock was about being fired for being gay. No one should be fired for being gay or trans. I said "the worst is allowing males to play girls' sports in school." This is woke, insane, illiberal, and discriminatory to girls (the female kind) who play and DO care about sports.


Any law related to sex discrimination will have to fall in line with the Bostock and Grimm decisions, such as Title IX.

You can feel however you want to feel about it, but don’t blame liberal voters. Trump and McConnell are responsible for Gorsuch being on the court. This is the law of the land now. Deal with it.


If you’re a lawyer you’re a really bad one. It does not follow from those opinions that boys have to be allowed to join sports teams for girls. Also, even if you were right (which you are not), the liberal justices joined Gorsuch on this opinion, which was obviously decisive. There were conservative justices in descent. So if you want to allocate blame, more goes the liberals


Give it a goog


I just dug through both decisions and read a few articles on it but couldn't find anything connecting either case to K-12 trans athletes playing girls' sports. Can you point me in the right direction...a quote or a link?


This is the first link I found via Google. I skimmed it. Plenty of other resources can be found by searching “title IX Bostock.”

https://fraternallaw.com/newsletter2/bostock-decision-and-its-impact-on-title-ix#:~:text=While%20Bostock%20was%20a%20Title,the%20prohibition%20in%20Title%20VII.

I don’t remember where I read the much longer article about it, but this should help.
Eh. Not really. I don't care much about bathrooms. I don't think think penises should be in women's locker rooms. And males, penis or not, shouldn't be allowed to compete in women's sports, especially not in girls' sports based on nothing but a feeling the male has. The above doesn't address the last two issues unfortunately.


Where are those notes in Title IX? I don’t recall seeing those.
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And then you would recognize the person as "Latino" how? I mean, maybe the person was "Irish"? I notice you cut off the top of your comment where you said that the OP probably didn't say the person's race/ethnicity because the person was probably "Latino".


People can generally (though not always) recognize someone of Latin American descent. Anyway my response actually said “Latino or otherwise non-white.”


How can you tell "generally"? This is crazy. Latin Americans are as diverse as Americans are (it's the Americas). Have you ever travelled in Latin America??? I have met people in Latin America whose ancestors immigrated there from Italy, Germany, Ireland, China, Africa, etc. The one thing they have in common is that they speak Spanish and that is why they are called "hispanic". They are all hispanic.

The guy who just pitched a no hitter (Yankees), Domingo German, is from "Latin America". Would you call him hispanic if you saw him and didn't know his name or where he was from? Just wondering.


The immigrants you’re mentioning are a minority. Stop being silly. And reacquaint yourself with the word “generally.”
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Anonymous wrote:So yesterday, I go to pick up a pizza from a local spot near our house in the DC suburbs. A bunch of the pizza delivery drivers are in the parking lot, taking break between deliveries. Some are dozing in their car.

One of the drivers is sitting on the asphalt ground, smoking his vape pen, and animatedly talking to someone on the phone:

“Yes, the Woke need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone Woke needs to crushed. That’s what Trump was all about, and why Biden is a disaster. If we don’t destroy the Woke, this country is done.”

He kept going on and on, repeating himself to whoever was on the phone. I hustled my kid into the car, as my kid could tell the guy was angry.

Wtf is happening in this country that a pizza delivery guy is spending his time so angrily talking about “Woke”?

He sounded like a religious nutcase.


Uhh..so what? He's entitled to his opinion and luckily we're in a country that has free speech..at least for now.
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And then you would recognize the person as "Latino" how? I mean, maybe the person was "Irish"? I notice you cut off the top of your comment where you said that the OP probably didn't say the person's race/ethnicity because the person was probably "Latino".


People can generally (though not always) recognize someone of Latin American descent. Anyway my response actually said “Latino or otherwise non-white.”


How can you tell "generally"? This is crazy. Latin Americans are as diverse as Americans are (it's the Americas). Have you ever travelled in Latin America??? I have met people in Latin America whose ancestors immigrated there from Italy, Germany, Ireland, China, Africa, etc. The one thing they have in common is that they speak Spanish and that is why they are called "hispanic". They are all hispanic.

The guy who just pitched a no hitter (Yankees), Domingo German, is from "Latin America". Would you call him hispanic if you saw him and didn't know his name or where he was from? Just wondering.


The immigrants you’re mentioning are a minority. Stop being silly. And reacquaint yourself with the word “generally.”


^^^ Also you’re wrong. Brazilians are Latin American but not Hispanic. You’re losing the battle to appear well versed on this topic.
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So yesterday, I go to pick up a pizza from a local spot near our house in the DC suburbs. A bunch of the pizza delivery drivers are in the parking lot, taking break between deliveries. Some are dozing in their car.

One of the drivers is sitting on the asphalt ground, smoking his vape pen, and animatedly talking to someone on the phone:

Yes, the Woke need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone Woke needs to crushed. That’s what Trump was all about, and why Biden is a disaster. If we don’t destroy the Woke, this country is done.”

He kept going on and on, repeating himself to whoever was on the phone. I hustled my kid into the car, as my kid could tell the guy was angry.

Wtf is happening in this country that a pizza delivery guy is spending his time so angrily talking about “Woke”?

He sounded like a religious nutcase.


😆 I don’t know, lady, of all the places in this country for a working class person to be ranting about wokeness, near your house in the DC suburbs probably makes the MOST sense


Non sequitur. “DC suburbs” extends out a good 30 miles. The language wasn’t really appropriate in any location.


So what? The whole area is deep blue compared to the rest of the country. The original post could be studied as a textbook example of smug liberalism.

Are you OP? Who the heck are you to police the “language” of a bunch of guys on break from their working class job?

If the guy were white OP probably would have said so to bolster the OMG-Trump-Supporters picture you were trying to paint so I’m betting the guy was Latino or otherwise non-white. And OP just seems absolutely clutching-pearls horrified that a person like that disagrees with OP’s own politics.


Doubt it. The syntax/vocabulary used is not something a native Spanish speaker who has learned English would use. Especially the "needs to be crushed" and "this country is done" phrases.




OP here: the pizza delivery man who was speaking on the phone appeared to be Caucasian.


You, OP, are a modern day Macarthyist. Except instead of hunting purported communists, you can’t stand anyone who holds a centrist or right leaning opinion. Get a grip.


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I can’t even believe this thread hasn’t been deleted. OP has one anecdote - probably made up - and is extrapolating it to an entire swath of people. What a complete idiot.


I know right? Some liberal Karen is shocked..shocked I tell you... to find out other people have different opinions from a private conversation she overhears and in typical DCUM fashion has to come here asking for a fainting couch and smelling salts and a friendly upper middle class crowd to dunk on the "working class rube" she knows next to nothing about. Only here would this thing be 8 pages long. I learned when I was 20 years old that a) a lot of people will be wrong b) people are entitled to be wrong and c) it's just not worth the mental energy to harass them/correct them/let it bother me.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, if he were saying the same thing, but talking about, say, conservative parents and reversing the names of the politicians, you wouldn't bat an eye.

Also, super weird that you think a pizza guy shouldn't have political views that differ from a rich person.


Here’s the thing:
We don’t talk about or even think about “conservative parents” unless you’re doing batsh#t crazy things like trying to ban books or threatening our teachers or local school board. Like, you’re not a topic of conversation in our lives unless you’re getting up to some crazy-ass stuff. Going back to your point - I would definitely be weirded out if someone I knew said “Conservative parents must be destroyed and eliminated.” However, the more likely scenario is that such words would never be uttered because I surround myself with stable people.

This gets to the rub of the matter:
why does “Woke” - a fictional concept - live rent-free in conservatives’ heads?


Anti-racism, social justice do not exist?

Confusion.

It is in dictionary, do you read the dictionary?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke

1
a
: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

2
disapproving : politically liberal (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme

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Sure the guy was white. It’s mostly white men who are afraid of “woke” not that they even know what it is. This is their way of being racist, homophobic and misogynistic without coming right out and saying it.
Many woke policies discriminate against whites, straights, and men. So it's little wonder many straight white men are anti-woke.


There’s anger at white men inventing 99.5 percent of every single necessity, need and want of modern civilized society so they are checking out.

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Sure the guy was white. It’s mostly white men who are afraid of “woke” not that they even know what it is. This is their way of being racist, homophobic and misogynistic without coming right out and saying it.
Many woke policies discriminate against whites, straights, and men. So it's little wonder many straight white men are anti-woke.


There’s anger at white men inventing 99.5 percent of every single necessity, need and want of modern civilized society so they are checking out.



I mean... Thank God someone at least invented electricity, the automobile, and home PCs. Otherwise, we may having this discussion by candlelight or horse-carrier courier service.
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So yesterday, I go to pick up a pizza from a local spot near our house in the DC suburbs. A bunch of the pizza delivery drivers are in the parking lot, taking break between deliveries. Some are dozing in their car.

One of the drivers is sitting on the asphalt ground, smoking his vape pen, and animatedly talking to someone on the phone:

Yes, the Woke need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone Woke needs to crushed. That’s what Trump was all about, and why Biden is a disaster. If we don’t destroy the Woke, this country is done.”

He kept going on and on, repeating himself to whoever was on the phone. I hustled my kid into the car, as my kid could tell the guy was angry.

Wtf is happening in this country that a pizza delivery guy is spending his time so angrily talking about “Woke”?

He sounded like a religious nutcase.


😆 I don’t know, lady, of all the places in this country for a working class person to be ranting about wokeness, near your house in the DC suburbs probably makes the MOST sense


Non sequitur. “DC suburbs” extends out a good 30 miles. The language wasn’t really appropriate in any location.


So what? The whole area is deep blue compared to the rest of the country. The original post could be studied as a textbook example of smug liberalism.

Are you OP? Who the heck are you to police the “language” of a bunch of guys on break from their working class job?

If the guy were white OP probably would have said so to bolster the OMG-Trump-Supporters picture you were trying to paint so I’m betting the guy was Latino or otherwise non-white. And OP just seems absolutely clutching-pearls horrified that a person like that disagrees with OP’s own politics.


Doubt it. The syntax/vocabulary used is not something a native Spanish speaker who has learned English would use. Especially the "needs to be crushed" and "this country is done" phrases.




OP here: the pizza delivery man who was speaking on the phone appeared to be Caucasian.


You, OP, are a modern day Macarthyist. Except instead of hunting purported communists, you can’t stand anyone who holds a centrist or right leaning opinion. Get a grip.


+1
I can’t even believe this thread hasn’t been deleted. OP has one anecdote - probably made up - and is extrapolating it to an entire swath of people. What a complete idiot.


I know right? Some liberal Karen is shocked..shocked I tell you... to find out other people have different opinions from a private conversation she overhears and in typical DCUM fashion has to come here asking for a fainting couch and smelling salts and a friendly upper middle class crowd to dunk on the "working class rube" she knows next to nothing about. Only here would this thing be 8 pages long. I learned when I was 20 years old that a) a lot of people will be wrong b) people are entitled to be wrong and c) it's just not worth the mental energy to harass them/correct them/let it bother me.


+3
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Sure the guy was white. It’s mostly white men who are afraid of “woke” not that they even know what it is. This is their way of being racist, homophobic and misogynistic without coming right out and saying it.
Many woke policies discriminate against whites, straights, and men. So it's little wonder many straight white men are anti-woke.


There’s anger at white men inventing 99.5 percent of every single necessity, need and want of modern civilized society so they are checking out.



You're giving white men far far too much credit.
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Anonymous wrote:So yesterday, I go to pick up a pizza from a local spot near our house in the DC suburbs. A bunch of the pizza delivery drivers are in the parking lot, taking break between deliveries. Some are dozing in their car.

One of the drivers is sitting on the asphalt ground, smoking his vape pen, and animatedly talking to someone on the phone:

“Yes, the Woke need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone Woke needs to crushed. That’s what Trump was all about, and why Biden is a disaster. If we don’t destroy the Woke, this country is done.”

He kept going on and on, repeating himself to whoever was on the phone. I hustled my kid into the car, as my kid could tell the guy was angry.

Wtf is happening in this country that a pizza delivery guy is spending his time so angrily talking about “Woke”?

He sounded like a religious nutcase.

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😆 I don’t know, lady, of all the places in this country for a working class person to be ranting about wokeness, near your house in the DC suburbs probably makes the MOST sense


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