Disturbing instance of anti-woke brainwashing

[Anonymous]

I am probably what that guy would label as “woke” but I honestly don’t understand the OP’s point. Some guy is spouting off to his friends about whatever. Provided he is not planning to do violence to anyone, this is totally fine. Do I wish we didn’t have so many people opposed to making sure every American is treated fairly and kindly? Sure. But they entitled to their views. Hopefully in a couple of years they’ll find something else to obsess over. Ideally something harmless but useful like the location of best pizza on the east coast.

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Doubt it. The syntax/vocabulary used is not something a native Spanish speaker who has learned English would use. Especially the "needs to be crushed" and "this country is done" phrases.




Um… just wow. Are you for real? There are Latinos who are not immigrants (or even who are) and are perfectly capable of speaking English like this.

And then you would recognize the person as "Latino" how? I mean, maybe the person was "Irish"? I notice you cut off the top of your comment where you said that the OP probably didn't say the person's race/ethnicity because the person was probably "Latino".

People can generally (though not always) recognize someone of Latin American descent. Anyway my response actually said “Latino or otherwise non-white.”

[Anonymous]

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So yesterday, I go to pick up a pizza from a local spot near our house in the DC suburbs. A bunch of the pizza delivery drivers are in the parking lot, taking break between deliveries. Some are dozing in their car.

One of the drivers is sitting on the asphalt ground, smoking his vape pen, and animatedly talking to someone on the phone:

“Yes, the Woke need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone Woke needs to crushed. That’s what Trump was all about, and why Biden is a disaster. If we don’t destroy the Woke, this country is done.”

He kept going on and on, repeating himself to whoever was on the phone. I hustled my kid into the car, as my kid could tell the guy was angry.

Wtf is happening in this country that a pizza delivery guy is spending his time so angrily talking about “Woke”?

He sounded like a religious nutcase.


😆 I don’t know, lady, of all the places in this country for a working class person to be ranting about wokeness, near your house in the DC suburbs probably makes the MOST sense


Non sequitur. “DC suburbs” extends out a good 30 miles. The language wasn’t really appropriate in any location.


So what? The whole area is deep blue compared to the rest of the country. The original post could be studied as a textbook example of smug liberalism.

Are you OP? Who the heck are you to police the “language” of a bunch of guys on break from their working class job?

If the guy were white OP probably would have said so to bolster the OMG-Trump-Supporters picture you were trying to paint so I’m betting the guy was Latino or otherwise non-white. And OP just seems absolutely clutching-pearls horrified that a person like that disagrees with OP’s own politics.

Doubt it. The syntax/vocabulary used is not something a native Spanish speaker who has learned English would use. Especially the "needs to be crushed" and "this country is done" phrases.

OP here: the pizza delivery man who was speaking on the phone appeared to be Caucasian.

Lots of Hispanics are white. In any case, it's okay for people to be passionate about politics.

Even if they disagree with you, OP!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if he were saying the same thing, but talking about, say, conservative parents and reversing the names of the politicians, you wouldn't bat an eye.

Also, super weird that you think a pizza guy shouldn't have political views that differ from a rich person.

Here’s the thing:
We don’t talk about or even think about “conservative parents” unless you’re doing batsh#t crazy things like trying to ban books or threatening our teachers or local school board. Like, you’re not a topic of conversation in our lives unless you’re getting up to some crazy-ass stuff. Going back to your point - I would definitely be weirded out if someone I knew said “Conservative parents must be destroyed and eliminated.” However, the more likely scenario is that such words would never be uttered because I surround myself with stable people.

This gets to the rub of the matter:
why does “Woke” - a fictional concept - live rent-free in conservatives’ heads?

It's so funny how progressives tripped over themselves 2 years ago to tell everyone to "get woke" and "stay woke." Now it is a fictional concept. Why should we buy into things like nonbinary, etc, when you all will eventually admit it's fictional? Credibility issues.

Assuming you're actually asking and not feigning ignorance to push a disingenuous narrative, progressives pushed "being woke" meaning being aware of how discrimination and racism pervades our society both on a macro level but also on smaller levels many privileged people aren't even aware of. That's what real "woke" means, simply understanding the deck is stacked against POC and it's insidious and intentional.

Conservative "woke," while sharing the same word, does not mean this. In fact it doesn't mean anything and it means whatever the person using it wants you to think it means. This usurping of the word was intentional, to steal it from people who actually want to use it to make the world a better place and hijack it to sow discord.

There is a less insidious example you are probably aware of; "hipster." It originally meant a very specific kind of young person who wore ironic thrift store clothing and listened to bands you've never heard of and stopped listening to them once you had. The word was hijacked and now "hipster" just means any young person who dresses or acts differently from whoever is using the word.

This is not a complicated concept. It has been happening to many different words for many generations. "Beatnik" was the same way. Reasonably intelligent people can easily tell the difference between the original use of the word and the insidious use of the word. If reasonably intelligent people can do it, why can't you?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if he were saying the same thing, but talking about, say, conservative parents and reversing the names of the politicians, you wouldn't bat an eye.

Also, super weird that you think a pizza guy shouldn't have political views that differ from a rich person.

Here’s the thing:
We don’t talk about or even think about “conservative parents” unless you’re doing batsh#t crazy things like trying to ban books or threatening our teachers or local school board. Like, you’re not a topic of conversation in our lives unless you’re getting up to some crazy-ass stuff. Going back to your point - I would definitely be weirded out if someone I knew said “Conservative parents must be destroyed and eliminated.” However, the more likely scenario is that such words would never be uttered because I surround myself with stable people.

This gets to the rub of the matter:
why does “Woke” - a fictional concept - live rent-free in conservatives’ heads?

It's so funny how progressives tripped over themselves 2 years ago to tell everyone to "get woke" and "stay woke." Now it is a fictional concept. Why should we buy into things like nonbinary, etc, when you all will eventually admit it's fictional? Credibility issues.

Assuming you're actually asking and not feigning ignorance to push a disingenuous narrative, progressives pushed "being woke" meaning being aware of how discrimination and racism pervades our society both on a macro level but also on smaller levels many privileged people aren't even aware of. That's what real "woke" means, simply understanding the deck is stacked against POC and it's insidious and intentional.

Conservative "woke," while sharing the same word, does not mean this. In fact it doesn't mean anything and it means whatever the person using it wants you to think it means. This usurping of the word was intentional, to steal it from people who actually want to use it to make the world a better place and hijack it to sow discord.

There is a less insidious example you are probably aware of; "hipster." It originally meant a very specific kind of young person who wore ironic thrift store clothing and listened to bands you've never heard of and stopped listening to them once you had. The word was hijacked and now "hipster" just means any young person who dresses or acts differently from whoever is using the word.

This is not a complicated concept. It has been happening to many different words for many generations. "Beatnik" was the same way. Reasonably intelligent people can easily tell the difference between the original use of the word and the insidious use of the word. If reasonably intelligent people can do it, why can't you?

DP. That’s all fine and good but I hardly think the way the right uses “woke” is insidious. The same thing happened with “political correctness,” which wasn’t originally a term of mockery but came to be one. “Woke” is just a catchall for left-wing identity politics moving beyond racial now to include sex/gender politics. How is it unfair to use the term “woke” this way?

[Anonymous]

Pizza guy frustrated to be living in a woke area. America is slowly slipping away. Most normal people are frustrated by that fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Pizza guy frustrated to be living in a woke area. America is slowly slipping away. Most normal people are frustrated by that fact.

Slipping away from…..what?

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Anonymous wrote:“Yes, the Nazis in control of the Supreme Court need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone like these Nazis needs to crushed. That’s what Biden is all about, and why Trump was a disaster. If we don’t destroy these Nazis, this country is done.”

OP, how do you feel about the above diatribe? Maybe said by one of your friends venting with a glass of wine? I’ve definitely heard things similar to that in the last few days.

But if it’s the other side’s venting (with a vape pen *gasp* rather than an expensive glass of wine) suddenly it’s the end of the world?

1. No mainstream liberal is saying Supreme Court justices need to be "eradicated," "crushed," or "destroyed." Those are words of violence. At worst they're saying they should be impeached or the court should be packed but those are VERY different things.

2. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS putting Americans in danger - women will DIE because of their partisan hackery. The Supreme court ACTUALLY IS taking bribe from billionaires and ruling in their favor. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS full of rapists and sexual abusers. Yet on the other side, "woke" isn't even a real thing. There is no conspiracy coming for you. The people losing their minds, casting their votes, being radicalized to harm people over "wokeness" can't even tell you what it is! It's not OK to call for violence against opposing views but being angry over something that's actually destroying our country is very different from being angry over a boogeyman made up by FOX news and pushed by con men who know their base is too dumb to realize.

YOU sound VERY crazy YOURSELF do you HEAR it?

If you read that and you thought the problem was the way I used capitalization to emphasize speech you've got an actual mind virus and it sure isn't "wokeness."

I don’t even know where to start. No one on the court took a “bribe” to rule in anyone’s favor. No one on the court is a “rapist.” I could go on but there are separate threads on these underlying issues and the point is that you sound unhinged and are in no position to be piling on to a pizza delivery guy for venting about politics.

+100
Report any troll who makes these garbage claims. Probably the same nut doing it on multiple threads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Yes, the Nazis in control of the Supreme Court need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone like these Nazis needs to crushed. That’s what Biden is all about, and why Trump was a disaster. If we don’t destroy these Nazis, this country is done.”

OP, how do you feel about the above diatribe? Maybe said by one of your friends venting with a glass of wine? I’ve definitely heard things similar to that in the last few days.

But if it’s the other side’s venting (with a vape pen *gasp* rather than an expensive glass of wine) suddenly it’s the end of the world?

1. No mainstream liberal is saying Supreme Court justices need to be "eradicated," "crushed," or "destroyed." Those are words of violence. At worst they're saying they should be impeached or the court should be packed but those are VERY different things.

2. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS putting Americans in danger - women will DIE because of their partisan hackery. The Supreme court ACTUALLY IS taking bribe from billionaires and ruling in their favor. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS full of rapists and sexual abusers. Yet on the other side, "woke" isn't even a real thing. There is no conspiracy coming for you. The people losing their minds, casting their votes, being radicalized to harm people over "wokeness" can't even tell you what it is! It's not OK to call for violence against opposing views but being angry over something that's actually destroying our country is very different from being angry over a boogeyman made up by FOX news and pushed by con men who know their base is too dumb to realize.

DP. Do you even hear yourself? You sound absolutely insane. NO ONE on the court is taking bribes, and NO ONE on the court is a "rapist or sexual abuser," you utter imbecile. Talk about radicalized. You are so far gone it's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if he were saying the same thing, but talking about, say, conservative parents and reversing the names of the politicians, you wouldn't bat an eye.

Also, super weird that you think a pizza guy shouldn't have political views that differ from a rich person.

Here’s the thing:
We don’t talk about or even think about “conservative parents” unless you’re doing batsh#t crazy things like trying to ban books or threatening our teachers or local school board. Like, you’re not a topic of conversation in our lives unless you’re getting up to some crazy-ass stuff. Going back to your point - I would definitely be weirded out if someone I knew said “Conservative parents must be destroyed and eliminated.” However, the more likely scenario is that such words would never be uttered because I surround myself with stable people.

This gets to the rub of the matter:
why does “Woke” - a fictional concept - live rent-free in conservatives’ heads?

I can't speak for conservatives because I am liberal. However, some of the craziest woke ideas are actually being implemented in progressive places such as NoVA and MoCo. Normal people of all political affiliations are fed up and they're starting to push back.

What are these woke ideas, exactly?

The worst is allowing males to play girls' sports in school. Doing this in K-5 is OK, in middle school is less OK, in high school is completely insane and anti-science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Yes, the Nazis in control of the Supreme Court need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone like these Nazis needs to crushed. That’s what Biden is all about, and why Trump was a disaster. If we don’t destroy these Nazis, this country is done.”

OP, how do you feel about the above diatribe? Maybe said by one of your friends venting with a glass of wine? I’ve definitely heard things similar to that in the last few days.

But if it’s the other side’s venting (with a vape pen *gasp* rather than an expensive glass of wine) suddenly it’s the end of the world?

1. No mainstream liberal is saying Supreme Court justices need to be "eradicated," "crushed," or "destroyed." Those are words of violence. At worst they're saying they should be impeached or the court should be packed but those are VERY different things.

2. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS putting Americans in danger - women will DIE because of their partisan hackery. The Supreme court ACTUALLY IS taking bribe from billionaires and ruling in their favor. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS full of rapists and sexual abusers. Yet on the other side, "woke" isn't even a real thing. There is no conspiracy coming for you. The people losing their minds, casting their votes, being radicalized to harm people over "wokeness" can't even tell you what it is! It's not OK to call for violence against opposing views but being angry over something that's actually destroying our country is very different from being angry over a boogeyman made up by FOX news and pushed by con men who know their base is too dumb to realize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if he were saying the same thing, but talking about, say, conservative parents and reversing the names of the politicians, you wouldn't bat an eye.

Also, super weird that you think a pizza guy shouldn't have political views that differ from a rich person.

Here’s the thing:
We don’t talk about or even think about “conservative parents” unless you’re doing batsh#t crazy things like trying to ban books or threatening our teachers or local school board. Like, you’re not a topic of conversation in our lives unless you’re getting up to some crazy-ass stuff. Going back to your point - I would definitely be weirded out if someone I knew said “Conservative parents must be destroyed and eliminated.” However, the more likely scenario is that such words would never be uttered because I surround myself with stable people.

This gets to the rub of the matter:
why does “Woke” - a fictional concept - live rent-free in conservatives’ heads?

It's so funny how progressives tripped over themselves 2 years ago to tell everyone to "get woke" and "stay woke." Now it is a fictional concept. Why should we buy into things like nonbinary, etc, when you all will eventually admit it's fictional? Credibility issues.

Assuming you're actually asking and not feigning ignorance to push a disingenuous narrative, progressives pushed "being woke" meaning being aware of how discrimination and racism pervades our society both on a macro level but also on smaller levels many privileged people aren't even aware of. That's what real "woke" means, simply understanding the deck is stacked against POC and it's insidious and intentional.

Conservative "woke," while sharing the same word, does not mean this. In fact it doesn't mean anything and it means whatever the person using it wants you to think it means. This usurping of the word was intentional, to steal it from people who actually want to use it to make the world a better place and hijack it to sow discord.

There is a less insidious example you are probably aware of; "hipster." It originally meant a very specific kind of young person who wore ironic thrift store clothing and listened to bands you've never heard of and stopped listening to them once you had. The word was hijacked and now "hipster" just means any young person who dresses or acts differently from whoever is using the word.

This is not a complicated concept. It has been happening to many different words for many generations. "Beatnik" was the same way. Reasonably intelligent people can easily tell the difference between the original use of the word and the insidious use of the word. If reasonably intelligent people can do it, why can't you?

DP. That’s all fine and good but I hardly think the way the right uses “woke” is insidious. The same thing happened with “political correctness,” which wasn’t originally a term of mockery but came to be one. “Woke” is just a catchall for left-wing identity politics moving beyond racial now to include sex/gender politics. How is it unfair to use the term “woke” this way?

Because it has an actual meaning and the right is deliberately perverting that meaning specifically to reduce the original meaning.

If it was an organic progression where liberals used woke to refer to more and more things, diluting the meaning that would be one thing, but that's not what happened. The right deliberately said "let's use this for everything so nobody knows what woke means and nothing will be woke." That's basically the dictionary definition of insidious and unfair.

[Anonymous]

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I am not surprised. The man is addled, and therefore he can't hold down any job for long. Of course you're going to find such addled people in low-paying temp jobs like these, OP. He's not employable anywhere else.

Or it could be a hard working guy who is also in college but working part-time so as to pay his tuition/expenses and not expect a free ride from other taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Yes, the Nazis in control of the Supreme Court need to be eradicated and destroyed. I don’t care how we do it, but everything and everyone like these Nazis needs to crushed. That’s what Biden is all about, and why Trump was a disaster. If we don’t destroy these Nazis, this country is done.”

OP, how do you feel about the above diatribe? Maybe said by one of your friends venting with a glass of wine? I’ve definitely heard things similar to that in the last few days.

But if it’s the other side’s venting (with a vape pen *gasp* rather than an expensive glass of wine) suddenly it’s the end of the world?

1. No mainstream liberal is saying Supreme Court justices need to be "eradicated," "crushed," or "destroyed." Those are words of violence. At worst they're saying they should be impeached or the court should be packed but those are VERY different things.

2. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS putting Americans in danger - women will DIE because of their partisan hackery. The Supreme court ACTUALLY IS taking bribe from billionaires and ruling in their favor. The Supreme Court ACTUALLY IS full of rapists and sexual abusers. Yet on the other side, "woke" isn't even a real thing. There is no conspiracy coming for you. The people losing their minds, casting their votes, being radicalized to harm people over "wokeness" can't even tell you what it is! It's not OK to call for violence against opposing views but being angry over something that's actually destroying our country is very different from being angry over a boogeyman made up by FOX news and pushed by con men who know their base is too dumb to realize.

DP. Do you even hear yourself? You sound absolutely insane. NO ONE on the court is taking bribes, and NO ONE on the court is a "rapist or sexual abuser," you utter imbecile. Talk about radicalized. You are so far gone it's embarrassing.

Sure, those pubes just magically appeared on the diet coke can, and all those credible accusations that were never investigated by the FBI must have just been made up. And that private jet to Alaska paid for by the person involved in a Supreme Court case had nothing to do with the decision.

Imagine being this willfully ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Pizza guy frustrated to be living in a woke area. America is slowly slipping away. Most normal people are frustrated by that fact.

Slipping away from…..what?

An economically and morally strong constitutional republic.