Harry and Meghan on Netflix episodes for five and six positivity and friendly comments only please

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Anonymous wrote:They seem genuinely in love.

I hope it will be long lasting. I hope they also did not think most people would change their opinions of them based on the Netflix series. The racist haters will still tear them to shreds.

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Anonymous wrote:The British monarchy is over 1,000 years old. Harry must know that and the way it’s run. He doesn’t seem very bright- nazi uniform, did poorly in school, called Pakistani soldier a racist name. He has just burned bridges with all his extended relatives for money. He will regret it one day when his kids have no connection at all with Britain and he is a pariah there.

I think he is happy to relive himself of any connection to the Royal family.

Then he should give up the titles if he wants to relieve himself of any connection to the Royal family. Go by Harry Mountbatten-Windsor and not Prince Harry, or Harry, Duke of Sussex.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

Who would know though and go to the tabloids?

Literally anyone who was with them on the Australia trip could have witnessed and leaked the bad behavior, if it was true. I imagine those royal tours have a press pool over the whole tour....it’s not out of the realm of possibility for rumors to start circling about her.

It could also quite as easily be totally manufactured lies. Half of the documentary was a parade of friends, family, and colleagues vouching that Meghan is not a spoiled lunatic. One narrative is just as likely as the other.

The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.

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Anonymous wrote:The British monarchy is over 1,000 years old. Harry must know that and the way it’s run. He doesn’t seem very bright- nazi uniform, did poorly in school, called Pakistani soldier a racist name. He has just burned bridges with all his extended relatives for money. He will regret it one day when his kids have no connection at all with Britain and he is a pariah there.

I think he is happy to relive himself of any connection to the Royal family.

I think he got what he wanted. But I don't think it is making him happy - or that he will be able to find the happiness he has been searching for.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the documentary interesting and watched it twice just to take everything in.

It really drove home to me that Meghan is unapologetically American in every way (and has a VERY strong millenial mindset). I think they both underestimated how hard it would be for her to fit into British culture, follow the rules set forth by the press and protocol offices in the royal family, and then fit into the larger royal family (not just the "principals" but the much larger family she has to deal with).

It also made me realize how much money had to do with their exit. When Meghan got moved into that tiny cottage after the wedding it must have been a stark realization that she was among the "poor" relations. Her American striver attitude kicked in and said, hey, how can we make some money here and pay for a nicer lifestyle (which as a millennial she needs to curate and is used to posting about constantly).

I agree with your 2nd paragraph, and then in the third you just invent motivations with zero proof. There was none of that in the documentary or in any reputable news source. You have their words, and pictures and videos — all of which show a happy couple in a tiny cottage. It’s ok if you don’t like her, but why do you feel the need to invent these motivations (that conveniently make her less likable) with zero proof?

Thank you for calling this out. This is an endlessly repeated pattern among Meghan watchers.

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I think they could have quietly left the family and lived out their life privately in CA without Oprah and Netflix. She is very pretty and has nice hair, but that is basically it. There's nothing special about them and now that they've aired their grievances they really should just disappear for a bit and focus on their charities.

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Anonymous[b wrote:]Harry is hot. [/b]

And they don’t want to live quiet, private lives as normal people as their detractors like to repeat. They want to be philanthropists with scheduled on-camera engagements without being hounded by the media all day, every day. Lots of rich people live like that, and it’s what Diana was trying to do.

Harry used to be cute but, no longer. Funny ears

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Anonymous[b wrote:]Harry is hot. [/b]

And they don’t want to live quiet, private lives as normal people as their detractors like to repeat. They want to be philanthropists with scheduled on-camera engagements without being hounded by the media all day, every day. Lots of rich people live like that, and it’s what Diana was trying to do.

Harry used to be cute but, no longer. Funny ears

And the hair is almost gone. From many angles you can see he has the same male pattern baldness that his brother has, he just has enough on top to grow up to create a halo of hair until you see the big bald skull underneath. There are some screen shots of the documentary that are just painful to see how bald he is and how desperate he is to keep his hair. Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:The British monarchy is over 1,000 years old. Harry must know that and the way it’s run. He doesn’t seem very bright- nazi uniform, did poorly in school, called Pakistani soldier a racist name. He has just burned bridges with all his extended relatives for money. He will regret it one day when his kids have no connection at all with Britain and he is a pariah there.

I think he is happy to relive himself of any connection to the Royal family.

Yes but, that is the only thing interesting about them. Without the Royal family they have nothing

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was well done but I can’t believe people who are so focused on privacy would bring their children into this. That doesn’t seem very private to me.

More importantly, safety. What is remotely safe about putting your children out there for public consumption?

Do you mean like every time the Royal Family puts on a photo shoot literally on the day that every prince or princess is born, right outside the hospital?
Do you mean like every time the Royal Family has official photographers who are allowed to take photos of children on ski trips, royal yacht trips, etc.?
Do you mean like every Christmas when the Royal Family encourages photographers to take family photos outside of the church service?
Do you mean like every birthday photo that was officially released for princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every first day of school/first day of Eton photo op for the princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every royal wedding being televised and heavily photographed?

Do you mean like that?

Royal family duty vs. private citizens claiming to be worried about their safety putting it out there (for $). Are you really that obtuse?

The paparazzi and media have not left them alone since they departed the BRF--stories are going to be out, photos will be taken, narratives told, truth twisted. So they're taking control by sharing their story in a way that makes them feel heard, safe and comfortable, and good for them. They're also making the money they need to pay for private security for their children, so good for them on that front, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was well done but I can’t believe people who are so focused on privacy would bring their children into this. That doesn’t seem very private to me.

More importantly, safety. What is remotely safe about putting your children out there for public consumption?

Do you mean like every time the Royal Family puts on a photo shoot literally on the day that every prince or princess is born, right outside the hospital?
Do you mean like every time the Royal Family has official photographers who are allowed to take photos of children on ski trips, royal yacht trips, etc.?
Do you mean like every Christmas when the Royal Family encourages photographers to take family photos outside of the church service?
Do you mean like every birthday photo that was officially released for princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every first day of school/first day of Eton photo op for the princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every royal wedding being televised and heavily photographed?

Do you mean like that?

Royal family duty vs. private citizens claiming to be worried about their safety putting it out there (for $). Are you really that obtuse?

Ah, yes, “duty”. It is my God-ordained duty to post photos on social media and cut ribbons at Tesco!!! I have so much duty.

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Anonymous wrote:The British monarchy is over 1,000 years old. Harry must know that and the way it’s run. He doesn’t seem very bright- nazi uniform, did poorly in school, called Pakistani soldier a racist name. He has just burned bridges with all his extended relatives for money. He will regret it one day when his kids have no connection at all with Britain and he is a pariah there.

I think he is happy to relive himself of any connection to the Royal family.

Yes but, that is the only thing interesting about them. Without the Royal family they have nothing

And yet, here you are! They are not members of the royal family anymore, but you are still spending your time, energy and attention on them. How very interesting.

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If Harry had such a close relationship with his grandmother, why couldn't he have gone to her and shared the concerns he was having about her treatment in the press and asked for her permission to tell the press to leave them alone out of fear of safety from what happened to his own mother? Isn't there some sort of agreement with the press not to hound Catherine and her children for the same reason? I seem to recall William discussing this at one point as he too lives in fear of what happened to his mom. Or are we to believe that because Meghan is (half) black this never would have been an option? I mean this is where they lose me--what evidence do they have of racism? They have not once been able to justify their claims (other than the Archie skin color accusation)

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

If I had negative story after negative story come out in tabloids, I’d throw things too, and so would you

NP. There is literally zero evidence whatsoever that any of this happened, that Meghan had a tantrum and was throwing things. The fact that people are still peddling this complete non-issue of a gossip story just proves how effective tabloid news is. It seeps into the public consciousness and subtly affects people’s opinions on a figure (or issue) just by repeatedly bombarding you with “what ifs” and manufactured headlines. Meghan might be a basic millennial but do people really believe she’s some caricature of a Disney villain?

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Anonymous wrote:If Harry had such a close relationship with his grandmother, why couldn't he have gone to her and shared the concerns he was having about her treatment in the press and asked for her permission to tell the press to leave them alone out of fear of safety from what happened to his own mother? Isn't there some sort of agreement with the press not to hound Catherine and her children for the same reason? I seem to recall William discussing this at one point as he too lives in fear of what happened to his mom. Or are we to believe that because Meghan is (half) black this never would have been an option? I mean this is where they lose me--what evidence do they have of racism? They have not once been able to justify their claims (other than the Archie skin color accusation)

They did tell the press to leave them alone - it was Buckingham Palace or Kensigton, which means something to the royal watchers who follow things more closely than I do. They made an announcement that the press and the public were being pretty awful about Meghan and to knock it off. I don't know that it was effective in either satisfying H&M or getting the press to tone it down - but they did say something.