Harry and Meghan on Netflix episodes for five and six positivity and friendly comments only please

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I had one brief dealing with the Royal Family (behind the scenes). They definitely do set up deals with the press, and negotiate so that each side gets something they want.

Just confirming that aspect of what was described.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was well done but I can’t believe people who are so focused on privacy would bring their children into this. That doesn’t seem very private to me.

More importantly, safety. What is remotely safe about putting your children out there for public consumption?

Do you mean like every time the Royal Family puts on a photo shoot literally on the day that every prince or princess is born, right outside the hospital?
Do you mean like every time the Royal Family has official photographers who are allowed to take photos of children on ski trips, royal yacht trips, etc.?
Do you mean like every Christmas when the Royal Family encourages photographers to take family photos outside of the church service?
Do you mean like every birthday photo that was officially released for princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every first day of school/first day of Eton photo op for the princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every royal wedding being televised and heavily photographed?

Do you mean like that?

Royal family duty vs. private citizens claiming to be worried about their safety putting it out there (for $). Are you really that obtuse?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was well done but I can’t believe people who are so focused on privacy would bring their children into this. That doesn’t seem very private to me.

More importantly, safety. What is remotely safe about putting your children out there for public consumption?

Do you mean like every time the Royal Family puts on a photo shoot literally on the day that every prince or princess is born, right outside the hospital?
Do you mean like every time the Royal Family has official photographers who are allowed to take photos of children on ski trips, royal yacht trips, etc.?
Do you mean like every Christmas when the Royal Family encourages photographers to take family photos outside of the church service?
Do you mean like every birthday photo that was officially released for princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every first day of school/first day of Eton photo op for the princes and princesses?
Do you mean like every royal wedding being televised and heavily photographed?

Do you mean like that?

DP. I'm not sure what your point is. "Just" Harry and Meghan are just regular Californians now, and their kids are just regular kids. Many American parents keep their children's lives private, out of safety concerns and out of respect for the children's future lives and to give them control of their digital lives. Mommy bloggers get in trouble for sharing too much - while Harry and Meghan are not sharing a lot of their children's lives, why are they sharing anything at all?

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Anonymous wrote:I had one brief dealing with the Royal Family (behind the scenes). They definitely do set up deals with the press, and negotiate so that each side gets something they want.

Just confirming that aspect of what was described.

Oh I 100% believe that.

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Anonymous wrote:I had one brief dealing with the Royal Family (behind the scenes). They definitely do set up deals with the press, and negotiate so that each side gets something they want.

Just confirming that aspect of what was described.

Do other celebrities or other government entities or business entities not do that? Is it unusual?

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Anonymous wrote:I had one brief dealing with the Royal Family (behind the scenes). They definitely do set up deals with the press, and negotiate so that each side gets something they want.

Just confirming that aspect of what was described.

Do other celebrities or other government entities or business entities not do that? Is it unusual?

I know that celebrities leak stories to the press (that will put them in a positive light).

They also grant interviews to reporters who print favorable stories about them. But that is different than actual negotiating (i.e., like we will give you this staged photo opp if you promise to leave us alone after that). That may be more of a paparazzi phenomenon.

Sorry, but my experience in this world is limited.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

Who would know though and go to the tabloids?

Literally anyone who was with them on the Australia trip could have witnessed and leaked the bad behavior, if it was true. I imagine those royal tours have a press pool over the whole tour....it’s not out of the realm of possibility for rumors to start circling about her.

It could also quite as easily be totally manufactured lies. Half of the documentary was a parade of friends, family, and colleagues vouching that Meghan is not a spoiled lunatic. One narrative is just as likely as the other.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is hot.

And they don’t want to live quiet, private lives as normal people as their detractors like to repeat. They want to be philanthropists with scheduled on-camera engagements without being hounded by the media all day, every day. Lots of rich people live like that, and it’s what Diana was trying to do.

I can understand why they left. It's just sad that they can't find another way to earn money other than criticizing his family.

They dont need to though. He got 14 million from Diana, $10 from the Queen mother, she had income prior to being his wife. I would assume their main need for money is security. They are in the public eye whether they want to be or not. They just want to control it. Many celebrities do the same thing but they are famous (in many peoples mind) because they did something not because of who their parents/family are but that is plainly not true as 75% or more of the current celebrities are related to other celebrities or people within the industry.

Their personal wealth was/is chump change for the social circles they run in. Round the clock security, flying private, mansion in SoCal, vacations around the world where you can be assured of privacy. None of these things come cheap. In Harry's world they are regular rich, not super rich. My own opinion is that Charles should have footed the bill so they could have security for a couple of years across the pond. Give them time to have kids, adjust to parenthood, adjust to royal life a little more quietly. I absolutely believe them that they were receiving death threats and felt unsafe.

The people in their social circles made their vast fortunes by being exceptional at what they do. I’m reasonably confident Tyler Perry’s dad is not footing his security bills.

And yet… Tyler Perry had so much sympathy for them and spent some of his own personal fortune trying to help them and protect them. He doesn’t seem like a sucker to me…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will chose a woman with a very stable and loving family that clearly enjoys each other and frequently get together and are involved in one another lives. He got exactly what he missed from his own upbringing and often says it is part of what attracted him to Kate, her family.

Harry went the dysfunctional route. He married a woman with a family has nutso as his own and a divorce/split upbringing with a strong MIL. He seems to be repeating his own family in some ways.

I definitely think Harry was always more vulnerable than William. He was younger when his parents divorced and his mother died. He really struggled for many years after. He was ripe for manipulation.

Harry looked visibly pained at times. This is much harder on him than her. He gave up so much more--his entire family, his friends, his homeland, his identity. I do wonder if this turns south (I mean, come on, it's only been 5 years), what will happen to him. He has literally nobody in the US or really back home to lean on or discuss anything with. It's very isolating. I am actually much more worried about his mental health than hers. It's a lot.

I disagree actually. He seems a lot more comfortable with his work in Africa and has a real desire to do good not just be a headliner. He still has plenty of friends from childhood but he also had an identity outside of Prince. He was even given a Sesotho name. I genuinely think he wants to use his "platform" to do good work. I also find him way more educated and open about racial and sexist underpinnings in the press, the British monarchy, etc.

I do think almost every person who is invested in philanthropy- heavily invested- is both naïve and has some narcissistic tendencies. And its not in a bad way just in the thinking that they can change things. I think its a necessary part of that type of personality/temperament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had one brief dealing with the Royal Family (behind the scenes). They definitely do set up deals with the press, and negotiate so that each side gets something they want.

Just confirming that aspect of what was described.

Oh good!!! I wasn’t sure I’d get an unimpeachably official confirmation on this issue but now that this ham in an anonymous forum has stepped up to further slur and slander the royals, well, now I can rest easy!!!

[Anonymous]

I haven’t seen the last three yet but read some reviews. I have believed all along that Harry and Meghan were becoming more popular than William and Kate. William and Kate seem very boring compared to Harry and Meghan. When the institution realized this they planted horrible stories about Meghan to bring them down. If the institution had protected Meghan and offered security for her and their kids then Harry may have stayed.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that struck me: Harry said everything went south after their Aussie tour. That it was jealousy that drove Will's office to put out negative stories about M.

Maybe. But I can't help thinking that it's the knee jerk response to someone not liking you, by blaming it on jealousy. It's hard to prove, and it is one sided.

It’s not *that* hard to prove, it would just take a neutral party with a lot of time to look at the headlines in the aggregate and see when things “turned” for Meghan and Harry.

Hasn't she been accused of bad behavior on that trip? Tea throwing, tantrum over their accommodations etc.

If any of it were true, it wouldn't be surprising for the tabloids to starting targeting her or people around them to start leaking.

If I had negative story after negative story come out in tabloids, I’d throw things too, and so would you

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will chose a woman with a very stable and loving family that clearly enjoys each other and frequently get together and are involved in one another lives. He got exactly what he missed from his own upbringing and often says it is part of what attracted him to Kate, her family.

Harry went the dysfunctional route. He married a woman with a family has nutso as his own and a divorce/split upbringing with a strong MIL. He seems to be repeating his own family in some ways.

I definitely think Harry was always more vulnerable than William. He was younger when his parents divorced and his mother died. He really struggled for many years after. He was ripe for manipulation.

Harry looked visibly pained at times. This is much harder on him than her. He gave up so much more--his entire family, his friends, his homeland, his identity. I do wonder if this turns south (I mean, come on, it's only been 5 years), what will happen to him. He has literally nobody in the US or really back home to lean on or discuss anything with. It's very isolating. I am actually much more worried about his mental health than hers. It's a lot.

To lean on? Did you watch how clothe was to his army buddies? He has lots of close friends

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan Markle:
What are your positive and friendly thoughts about Netflix docu series episodes for five and six?

100% believe them. The tabloids were HORRIBLE to her, just as they were to other women that married into the family and didn't "do as they were told", so to speak. I think it is completely reasonable to take the actions that they have. And, lbh, the monarchy is not exactly known for being empathetic, kind, tolerant. And quite the opposite, many have been awful people. Even the Queen has made some very poor decisions.

I thought the information about how they met, their relationship, etc. was extremely genuine. Unless you're saying they planned their pictures, texts, etc. years in advance of them being in their current place in life.

I think Meghan is a beautiful, intelligent, independent woman who underestimated, much like Diana, what she was getting into. She changed her mind (and so did Harry) and she is entitled to do that. I do NOT think she coerced Harry on this point in any way --- he was never super into the role of a royal and has always despised the tabloids. Those of you so obsessed with her and think she is so . . . . I don't even know, powerful, persuasive, negative. . . . I don't know what to make of you. It's bizarre. And probably a little sexist and/or racist even if it is unconsciously so.

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Anonymous wrote:The British monarchy is over 1,000 years old. Harry must know that and the way it’s run. He doesn’t seem very bright- nazi uniform, did poorly in school, called Pakistani soldier a racist name. He has just burned bridges with all his extended relatives for money. He will regret it one day when his kids have no connection at all with Britain and he is a pariah there.

I think he is happy to relive himself of any connection to the Royal family.