slur during last nights FCPS Board mtg

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Anonymous wrote:I’m anti-cancel culture. I do not like anything this woman has done on the school board and want her voted off. But come on, people make mistakes and should not be canceled for them. We all make mistakes. I definitely grew up in a time when the word was used all the time. Of course the word is offensive and people should not use it. But again, everyone makes mistakes.

Not unless white people get a second chance before being cancelled. She's not resigning because she's black and is given a pass on shaming the disabled. Is FCPS going to become like DC where it's ok to utter anti-Semitic remarks at public meetings just because you're black?

+1 I’m also against “cancel culture” and I actually don’t want to see Keys taken down for this (I would actually hope she’s taken down for cause, incompetence and her pushing the ridiculous changes at Lewis!) but you KNOW if someone else said what she said the cancellation would be immediate.

ITA - putting aside the slur she just hasn’t been a good at-large representative. It’s been years since she’s taken any interest in anything happening in our pyramid. Mostly we only see her when she’s trying to raise money for campaigns.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m anti-cancel culture. I do not like anything this woman has done on the school board and want her voted off. But come on, people make mistakes and should not be canceled for them. We all make mistakes. I definitely grew up in a time when the word was used all the time. Of course the word is offensive and people should not use it. But again, everyone makes mistakes.

Not unless white people get a second chance before being cancelled. She's not resigning because she's black and is given a pass on shaming the disabled. Is FCPS going to become like DC where it's ok to utter anti-Semitic remarks at public meetings just because you're black?

+1 I’m also against “cancel culture” and I actually don’t want to see Keys taken down for this (I would actually hope she’s taken down for cause, incompetence and her pushing the ridiculous changes at Lewis!) but you KNOW if someone else said what she said the cancellation would be immediate.

ITA - putting aside the slur she just hasn’t been a good at-large representative. It’s been years since she’s taken any interest in anything happening in our pyramid. Mostly we only see her when she’s trying to raise money for campaigns.

Also true.

But PP’s point about the blatant double-standard in politics, and the destructive horror of cancel culture, also stands out here.

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She was using the word as a verb, which means it can't be referring to a person as people aren't verbs. Rather people are nouns.

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Anonymous wrote:She was using the word as a verb, which means it can't be referring to a person as people aren't verbs. Rather people are nouns.

She was using it as an adjective. And she’s the very picture of a useless hypocrite.

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Anonymous wrote:She was using the word as a verb, which means it can't be referring to a person as people aren't verbs. Rather people are nouns.

Do you not know what a verb is? She used it as an adjective and it was wrong, especially because she is supposed to oversee education for all kids. Are you the one who tried to say people use that word to mean delay? Give it up. Even she acknowledged it was wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.

It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.

Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.

I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.

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The word wasn’t appropriate, period. I also think cancel culture has gone too far but it’s this on top of all the other mistakes of the school board and it just becomes too much. Remember a month or two ago the two SB candidates who laughed at the signing autistic child. It’s a disgrace. Most people realize they may have LDs in school and the educators are supposed to be helping, not making matters worse.

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Anonymous wrote:SEPTA is apparently fine with gamarra’s weak apology. Imagine their different reaction if it was a Republican. They really lost credibility with their statement.

SEPTA is lame. They don't do much except pat each other on the back on how great they are and give a lot of lip service. Very minimal action for the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.

It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.

Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.

I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.

I think most would agree and the issue here is the hypocrisy. Some people on this school board are the first to call for someone’s head and not care about someone’s core persona or belief system. But then if one of them makes a misstep all of a sudden it’s oh I am a nuanced person and everyone makes mistakes sometimes. We tend to view ourselves and those in our “group” as complex and nuanced and people on other groups as more one dimensional. That’s how we end up making sweeping judgements of this or that group. I agree it’s bad for society but let’s not act like this school board doesn’t engage in that to some extent.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.

It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.

Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.

I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.

I think most would agree and the issue here is the hypocrisy. Some people on this school board are the first to call for someone’s head and not care about someone’s core persona or belief system. But then if one of them makes a misstep all of a sudden it’s oh I am a nuanced person and everyone makes mistakes sometimes. We tend to view ourselves and those in our “group” as complex and nuanced and people on other groups as more one dimensional. That’s how we end up making sweeping judgements of this or that group. I agree it’s bad for society but let’s not act like this school board doesn’t engage in that to some extent.

Yes, I agree that this current school board does a terrible job of modeling good behavior and holding themselves accountable to that which they preach.

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She has to resign. You don’t recover from something like that as a school board member.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.

It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.

Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.

I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.

I think most would agree and the issue here is the hypocrisy. Some people on this school board are the first to call for someone’s head and not care about someone’s core persona or belief system. But then if one of them makes a misstep all of a sudden it’s oh I am a nuanced person and everyone makes mistakes sometimes. We tend to view ourselves and those in our “group” as complex and nuanced and people on other groups as more one dimensional. That’s how we end up making sweeping judgements of this or that group. I agree it’s bad for society but let’s not act like this school board doesn’t engage in that to some extent.

True. Keep in mind the only reason KKG was so worked up to begin with is that she, along with fellow poseurs Ricardy Anderson, Melanie Meren, and Abrar Omeish, had just failed to get their way on a virtue-signaling “Truth in Education” resolution that had been chewing up time both in and out of formal Board meetings for weeks - time that could have been, but was not, spent addressing learning loss, school overcrowding, and academic courses for the following year.

They are completely out of touch with what parents actually care about. Keys Gamarra’s slur is but one reason she has no business staying in office. Apart from McLaughlin, the rest are also failures who need to be voted out.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you all seriously expending this much energy into cancelling this woman???? I wish you'd be this angry about pedophiles... #crickets.

Im not trying to cancel KKG. But come on, dont act like it isnt possible to be angry about this AND pedophiles AND those trying to overthrow democracy.

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That word shouldn't even be in her vocabulary. No excuse for a SB member to use it. It is offensive and she should know better!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like KKG because her planning for the Lewis Academy has been atrocious. However, I'm almost cetain she meant "retarded" in the real definition of the word, meaning delayed. Like fire retardant. Due to taking so much time for a trivial matter.

The only people who use that term in a derogatory sense are people like me who grew up in the 80s and 90s where that was a common insult in middle and high school. She's way too old to have picked up on that lingo.

You are r***d if you think that. Jk.

I grew up in the70's/80's and that was probably the most common playground slur.