slur during last nights FCPS Board mtg

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Anonymous wrote:KKG has no interest beyond black administrators, staff and students. She needs to apologize for this slur. As someone who is supposed to care for all students, it is beyond inappropriate. The board wven did a resolution last year or the year before about how this word is a slur! She knows better even if she grew up with this term like many of us did in the 70s and 80s.

The PP who described the speaker situation above was wrong. John Foster said it wild be a speaker substitution despite the power of attorney and it would require a vote to suspend the rules. The parlimentarian agreed. Why didn’t that speaker identify herself as a substitute up front? Rachna read the rules very clearly that said no speaker substitution. They needed to follow the process and that’s whay they did.


Exactly, that's why she's racist.


I don't think that makes her "racist." It makes her race-focused.

And I do agree with the PP's statement. That is her focus. Disappointment. I voted for her to expand the racial make up of the SB... but I assumed she was more well-rounded. I was wrong.


"race-focused" implies she, as an elected school board member, skews her work based on skin color, which is by definition racist.

That is not even remotely close to what race-focused means. Just stop.


DP. The entire board is race-focused, which is why they all need to be voted out. Enough, already. Focus on improving academics for ALL children. No wonder so many families have fled to privates.


Wait - academics? You want them to focus on academics??

In our schools???

How weird.

Schools are supposed to be indoctrination centers for the SB’s agenda of DIE: diversity, inclusion, and equity.

Don’t you agree with the current SB and new superintendent?


Sounds like homeschooling is right for you. Then you cam indoctrinate your kids YOUR way.
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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.


It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.


Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.


I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.


Really. Yeah, I’m sure if another board member muttered the N word on a hot mic, you’d be like “she didn’t meeeeean it. Give her another chaaaaance.” Sure, Jan.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a child of the 80s and even though I understand why the word is problematic I still catch myself using it on occasion out of old habit. It just wasn't broadly considered offensive in the same way back then, and I never realized it was based on a reference to a specific group of people until ~10 years ago. I've since tried to remove it from my vocabulary, but occasionally it still slips out before I can consciously catch it.


So you’re in your late 40s and struggle to regulate yourself from using a word that is a put-down because you’ve used it so much. That’s beyond sad.


No, it's just a normal human subconscious process. Not all thought/speech is done with intention, especially emotional/reactive thought and speech, and patterns from our youth are often particularly ingrained in our subconscious.


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Yes. And your emotional/reactive response in part proves the PP's point.


No. People who aren’t trash don’t have words like these in their adult vocabularies so they can “slip out” when they’re angry.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not at all surprising that this woke mob is devouring their own here in Fairfax county. It’s painful to watch Democrats turn everyone into fragile snowflakes always looking to be offended and patting themselves on the back for their wokeness. Does anyone really think she has any malice or disrespect towards towards disabled people? Acceptable usage of what were once common words change over time. So she didn’t completely expunge all remnants of the word from her vocabulary and one slipped through the cracks. She made a mistake and apologized. Move on people! All you’re doing is driving moderates towards the anti democracy R’s!


No the “woke mob” is defending her because of the color of the skin.

People who are concerned about someone in education using slurs that affect kids are speaking up. And Republicans who couldn’t care less about the kids but are happy to attack a democrat.


Totally agree with you, except for your idiotic last sentence. Republicans do indeed care about the kids - much more so than many of you Democrats seem to, what with your insistence on exposing them to inappropriate sexual material and castigating/punishing them if they forget to call someone by the "correct" pronoun.


No, they don’t. Not in the slightest. They pretend to “care about the kids” to garner votes from dumb people who actually believe it. Kids to Republicans are nothing but pawns used to further their agenda.
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Anonymous wrote:From the article linked just above:

“A new survey of the top 150 colleges in the United States found that nearly 25 percent of students believe it is acceptable to use violence to shut down a controversial speaker on campus.

At several elite women’s colleges, the number shockingly jumps to nearly 50 percent.”


There was an incident at W&M last month. A pro-choice student was arrested and charged with assault after throwing urine (yes, urine) at a group of pro-choice/anti-abortion students. I don't care what side of the issue you're on, throwing urine at people you disagree with is gross and unacceptable.



I forgot to post the link to the article.

https://studentsforlife.org/2022/10/04/breaking-news-abortion-supporter-who-threw-urine-at-pro-life-william-charged-with-2-counts-of-assault/


Your source is “students for life dot org?” Yeah, no. Do better.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not at all surprising that this woke mob is devouring their own here in Fairfax county. It’s painful to watch Democrats turn everyone into fragile snowflakes always looking to be offended and patting themselves on the back for their wokeness. Does anyone really think she has any malice or disrespect towards towards disabled people? Acceptable usage of what were once common words change over time. So she didn’t completely expunge all remnants of the word from her vocabulary and one slipped through the cracks. She made a mistake and apologized. Move on people! All you’re doing is driving moderates towards the anti democracy R’s!


No the “woke mob” is defending her because of the color of the skin.

People who are concerned about someone in education using slurs that affect kids are speaking up. And Republicans who couldn’t care less about the kids but are happy to attack a democrat.


Totally agree with you, except for your idiotic last sentence. Republicans do indeed care about the kids - much more so than many of you Democrats seem to, what with your insistence on exposing them to inappropriate sexual material and castigating/punishing them if they forget to call someone by the "correct" pronoun.


No, they don’t. Not in the slightest. They pretend to “care about the kids” to garner votes from dumb people who actually believe it. Kids to Republicans are nothing but pawns used to further their agenda.


Don’t talk about “dumb people” unless you’re prepared to acknowledge that people don’t come much dumber than Karen Keys Gamarra, who ought to be preparing her resignation letter now. Meanwhile kids will continue to lose with such clowns on the School Board.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not at all surprising that this woke mob is devouring their own here in Fairfax county. It’s painful to watch Democrats turn everyone into fragile snowflakes always looking to be offended and patting themselves on the back for their wokeness. Does anyone really think she has any malice or disrespect towards towards disabled people? Acceptable usage of what were once common words change over time. So she didn’t completely expunge all remnants of the word from her vocabulary and one slipped through the cracks. She made a mistake and apologized. Move on people! All you’re doing is driving moderates towards the anti democracy R’s!


No the “woke mob” is defending her because of the color of the skin.

People who are concerned about someone in education using slurs that affect kids are speaking up. And Republicans who couldn’t care less about the kids but are happy to attack a democrat.


Totally agree with you, except for your idiotic last sentence. Republicans do indeed care about the kids - much more so than many of you Democrats seem to, what with your insistence on exposing them to inappropriate sexual material and castigating/punishing them if they forget to call someone by the "correct" pronoun.


Yep- keep ‘em ignorant and LOVIN’ ‘MERICA without a single critical thought. That’s how we raise a nation of bootlickers.
No, they don’t. Not in the slightest. They pretend to “care about the kids” to garner votes from dumb people who actually believe it. Kids to Republicans are nothing but pawns used to further their agenda.
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i grew up in the 90s and never used the word, and I judged those who did. Then I looked up what the origin of the words "cretin" and "moron" and "imbecile" were. Language is funny sometimes.
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Anonymous wrote:i grew up in the 90s and never used the word, and I judged those who did. Then I looked up what the origin of the words "cretin" and "moron" and "imbecile" were. Language is funny sometimes.


Excuses, excuses, excuses…guess it’s de rigeur since it’s KKG who’s the aggressor.
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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.


It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.


Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.


I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.


Really. Yeah, I’m sure if another board member muttered the N word on a hot mic, you’d be like “she didn’t meeeeean it. Give her another chaaaaance.” Sure, Jan.


I think we can acknowledge the R word is a slur (which many folks still aren’t even aware of, tbh) without attempting to draw an equivalence to the N word, which just makes you look foolish. And to a recent poster’s point, there are many other words used to colorfully and intensely describe “not smart” that have similar derivations as the R word that should be similarly considered slurs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.


It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.


Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.


I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.


Really. Yeah, I’m sure if another board member muttered the N word on a hot mic, you’d be like “she didn’t meeeeean it. Give her another chaaaaance.” Sure, Jan.


I think we can acknowledge the R word is a slur (which many folks still aren’t even aware of, tbh) without attempting to draw an equivalence to the N word, which just makes you look foolish. And to a recent poster’s point, there are many other words used to colorfully and intensely describe “not smart” that have similar derivations as the R word that should be similarly considered slurs.


In many circles the R word is considered just as offensive as the N word. Please stop trying to impose your distinctions on everyone else. It’s demeaning and inappropriate and serves only to reinforce the harm done by KKG’s vile remarks over the years.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not at all surprising that this woke mob is devouring their own here in Fairfax county. It’s painful to watch Democrats turn everyone into fragile snowflakes always looking to be offended and patting themselves on the back for their wokeness. Does anyone really think she has any malice or disrespect towards towards disabled people? Acceptable usage of what were once common words change over time. So she didn’t completely expunge all remnants of the word from her vocabulary and one slipped through the cracks. She made a mistake and apologized. Move on people! All you’re doing is driving moderates towards the anti democracy R’s!


No the “woke mob” is defending her because of the color of the skin.

People who are concerned about someone in education using slurs that affect kids are speaking up. And Republicans who couldn’t care less about the kids but are happy to attack a democrat.


Totally agree with you, except for your idiotic last sentence. Republicans do indeed care about the kids - much more so than many of you Democrats seem to, what with your insistence on exposing them to inappropriate sexual material and castigating/punishing them if they forget to call someone by the "correct" pronoun.


No, they don’t. Not in the slightest. They pretend to “care about the kids” to garner votes from dumb people who actually believe it. Kids to Republicans are nothing but pawns used to further their agenda.


Don’t talk about “dumb people” unless you’re prepared to acknowledge that people don’t come much dumber than Karen Keys Gamarra, who ought to be preparing her resignation letter now. Meanwhile kids will continue to lose with such clowns on the School Board.


Wait - she has not resigned yet??

omg
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not at all surprising that this woke mob is devouring their own here in Fairfax county. It’s painful to watch Democrats turn everyone into fragile snowflakes always looking to be offended and patting themselves on the back for their wokeness. Does anyone really think she has any malice or disrespect towards towards disabled people? Acceptable usage of what were once common words change over time. So she didn’t completely expunge all remnants of the word from her vocabulary and one slipped through the cracks. She made a mistake and apologized. Move on people! All you’re doing is driving moderates towards the anti democracy R’s!


No the “woke mob” is defending her because of the color of the skin.

People who are concerned about someone in education using slurs that affect kids are speaking up. And Republicans who couldn’t care less about the kids but are happy to attack a democrat.


Totally agree with you, except for your idiotic last sentence. Republicans do indeed care about the kids - much more so than many of you Democrats seem to, what with your insistence on exposing them to inappropriate sexual material and castigating/punishing them if they forget to call someone by the "correct" pronoun.


No, they don’t. Not in the slightest. They pretend to “care about the kids” to garner votes from dumb people who actually believe it. Kids to Republicans are nothing but pawns used to further their agenda.


Don’t talk about “dumb people” unless you’re prepared to acknowledge that people don’t come much dumber than Karen Keys Gamarra, who ought to be preparing her resignation letter now. Meanwhile kids will continue to lose with such clowns on the School Board.


Wait - she has not resigned yet??

omg


Of course not. You didn’t actually expect these people to hold themselves to the same standards to which they hold everyone else, did you? What a bunch of hypocrites.
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The black member is given a pass. No one else would be. I hate the hypocrisy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Threads like this one make me believe that we're coming undone at the seams.

Growing up in New England, the word in questions was used as a pejorative through the 80s and 90s. I'm sure it was widely used elsewhere.

Did the board member make a good choice? No. Was the word used in poor taste? Yes. Did the board member acknowledge her mistake and apologize? Yes. Should she be thrown off the school board, campaigned against, or canceled because of this particular mistake? No.

This whole name calling business has gotten completely out of hand. Toughen your skin, people, and remember that we're all human.


It is rare and refreshing to find someone reasonable here. Totally agree.


Now substitute the n-word or the f-word for the r-word and see if you’d reach the same conclusion. PP’s was a typical ableist take.


I do. Uttering one word in one instance does not shed light on someone's core persona or belief systems. Unfortunately, as a society, we've developed very thin skin and overly hyped sensitivities, which oftentimes drive us to make wild assumptions and draw ridiculous conclusions about a fellow human being based on, at best, a paucity of data. This is not to the benefit of our society.


Really. Yeah, I’m sure if another board member muttered the N word on a hot mic, you’d be like “she didn’t meeeeean it. Give her another chaaaaance.” Sure, Jan.


I think we can acknowledge the R word is a slur (which many folks still aren’t even aware of, tbh) without attempting to draw an equivalence to the N word, which just makes you look foolish. And to a recent poster’s point, there are many other words used to colorfully and intensely describe “not smart” that have similar derivations as the R word that should be similarly considered slurs.


No, it doesn’t. Perhaps fools think the comparison is foolish. Not my problem.
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