Another armed carjacking in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need to talk about “cultural problems” in a community. We need to talk about public policies rooted in systemic racism that perpetuate cyclical poverty and feelings of hopelessness and indignity.

If UC and UMC white people are looking to blame someone, look in a mirror…

Yeah, no it's not UMC white people who are murdering and carjacking in this city. This is just nonsense. Most poor people don't go around murdering and carjacking and assaulting either. Stop trying to blame "whiteness" for sociopathic behavior. For all races, one of the highest risk factors for criminal behavior is single parent family structure --and DC has one of the highest rates of single parent households. I'm all for arguments about better community policing, improving public education, and the like, but guess who is paying the highest taxes to fund those who don't work and don't give back to society and to whom most of those dollars are sent? The UC and UMC people (who are not all white, by the way) whom you are trying to pathologize here.

So the solution here is patriarchy? Is that what you are saying? Property crimes for things that can be easily replaced are not worth the future of our children spending years in jail due to a mistake they made as a kid.

DC should give a new car to each 16 year old black. And if you continue to steal cars after that, then you go to jail and stay there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need to talk about “cultural problems” in a community. We need to talk about public policies rooted in systemic racism that perpetuate cyclical poverty and feelings of hopelessness and indignity.

If UC and UMC white people are looking to blame someone, look in a mirror…

This is the prevailing sentiment. It’s become engrained in the next generation. Everything is caused by system racism and racist structures. In no way are people responsible for their own violent actions because it’s all forces out of their own control. Therefore the solution are endless studies of the root causes of poverty (which are pretty clear already), a lot of yelling, spending millions on programs over the decades that obviously show minimal efficacy, blaming gentrifiers, and essentially deflecting from ever truly solving anything because time simply moves on.

The solutions sort of present themselves. One is that pro development polices in DC have led to tons of new construction that has pushed out a lot of criminal element. Or displaced people based on how you view the city. That’s changed somewhat with a renewed focus on affordable housing and and the focus of housing people n subsidized housing in perpetuity to help ingrain generations of the same family in urban centers. For example, religious protestors were obsessed with Res 13. Now it’s all ultra low income housing and will be a beehive of crime.

We have tons of bleeding heart liberals who choose to live in the city. They get mugged and then blame themselves for being the perpetrators of systemic racism. Some abscond for the suburbs, some tough it out. Then we have a massive low income population response for 98% of the crime. And we have a crime loving city council who won’t consider tough policing or incarceration. Wash rinse repeat.

The real solution if you live in DC is to stay in upper NW or in one of the richer neighborhood or better blocks close in to the capitol and hope you don’t get attacked or at the very least that your rims get stolen. It’s the truth. I honestly have lived here so long, I’ve seen every argument about all this. I’ve seen crime. Someone was stabbed on my block and I saw the blood run down the side walk and then I saw the police catch the suspect. So really it’s nothing new. I just worry the next generation is more accepting of it because they’re so socially conscious. I hope they actually understand that people can be violent and it can’t be all restorative justice and excuses or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they’re killing each other it’s arguably beneficial to society. When they kill productive people, it will eventually poison another generation of people against them. I’m sure the doc’s killing will cause some of his friends to become racist.

Yeah, well, statistics don't lie, and the homicide statistics by race are pretty clear -- when 13 percent of the population is committing more than half of all murders in this country, we need to be able to talk about the cultural problems in that community. But you're not allowed to do that (as will be clear when this post gets deleted by the moderator, since any mention of crime statistics by race gets deleted).

IT'S POVERTY. NOT RACE. And the god damn reason most poor people are Black is because white people made it that way. FIX POVERTY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they’re killing each other it’s arguably beneficial to society. When they kill productive people, it will eventually poison another generation of people against them. I’m sure the doc’s killing will cause some of his friends to become racist.

Yeah, well, statistics don't lie, and the homicide statistics by race are pretty clear -- when 13 percent of the population is committing more than half of all murders in this country, we need to be able to talk about the cultural problems in that community. But you're not allowed to do that (as will be clear when this post gets deleted by the moderator, since any mention of crime statistics by race gets deleted).

IT'S POVERTY. NOT RACE. And the god damn reason most poor people are Black is because white people made it that way. FIX POVERTY.

Or raise children to complete their education, stay out of trouble, and get a job? If you want to get out of poverty, regardless of race, the pattern is clear: finish high school, don't have children until you get married, and don't commit crimes. Many people of different races have done this and succeeded; others have chosen to repeat cycles of criminal and anti social behavior. Even when social programs and support are available, not everyone will make use of them. IT'S BEHAVIOR. NOT RACE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need to talk about “cultural problems” in a community. We need to talk about public policies rooted in systemic racism that perpetuate cyclical poverty and feelings of hopelessness and indignity.

If UC and UMC white people are looking to blame someone, look in a mirror…

Yeah, no it's not UMC white people who are murdering and carjacking in this city. This is just nonsense. Most poor people don't go around murdering and carjacking and assaulting either. Stop trying to blame "whiteness" for sociopathic behavior. For all races, one of the highest risk factors for criminal behavior is single parent family structure --and DC has one of the highest rates of single parent households. I'm all for arguments about better community policing, improving public education, and the like, but guess who is paying the highest taxes to fund those who don't work and don't give back to society and to whom most of those dollars are sent? The UC and UMC people (who are not all white, by the way) whom you are trying to pathologize here.

So the solution here is patriarchy? Is that what you are saying? Property crimes for things that can be easily replaced are not worth the future of our children spending years in jail due to a mistake they made as a kid.

Shoving a gun in someone's face isn't a property crime; it's threatening a life, regardless of whether they steal your car, your phone, or your wallet in the process, so yes, something other than the clearly failed efforts at youth "rehabilitation" are called for given the surge in crime. Threatening a life (or in many cases in DC, like the carjacking this week, taking one) is not merely a childish mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they’re killing each other it’s arguably beneficial to society. When they kill productive people, it will eventually poison another generation of people against them. I’m sure the doc’s killing will cause some of his friends to become racist.

Yeah, well, statistics don't lie, and the homicide statistics by race are pretty clear -- when 13 percent of the population is committing more than half of all murders in this country, we need to be able to talk about the cultural problems in that community. But you're not allowed to do that (as will be clear when this post gets deleted by the moderator, since any mention of crime statistics by race gets deleted).

IT'S POVERTY. NOT RACE. And the god damn reason most poor people are Black is because white people made it that way. FIX POVERTY.

Or raise children to complete their education, stay out of trouble, and get a job? If you want to get out of poverty, regardless of race, the pattern is clear: finish high school, don't have children until you get married, and don't commit crimes. Many people of different races have done this and succeeded; others have chosen to repeat cycles of criminal and anti social behavior. Even when social programs and support are available, not everyone will make use of them. IT'S BEHAVIOR. NOT RACE.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need to talk about “cultural problems” in a community. We need to talk about public policies rooted in systemic racism that perpetuate cyclical poverty and feelings of hopelessness and indignity.

If UC and UMC white people are looking to blame someone, look in a mirror…

This is the prevailing sentiment. It’s become engrained in the next generation. Everything is caused by system racism and racist structures. In no way are people responsible for their own violent actions because it’s all forces out of their own control. Therefore the solution are endless studies of the root causes of poverty (which are pretty clear already), a lot of yelling, spending millions on programs over the decades that obviously show minimal efficacy, blaming gentrifiers, and essentially deflecting from ever truly solving anything because time simply moves on.

The solutions sort of present themselves. One is that pro development polices in DC have led to tons of new construction that has pushed out a lot of criminal element. Or displaced people based on how you view the city. That’s changed somewhat with a renewed focus on affordable housing and and the focus of housing people n subsidized housing in perpetuity to help ingrain generations of the same family in urban centers. For example, religious protestors were obsessed with Res 13. Now it’s all ultra low income housing and will be a beehive of crime.

We have tons of bleeding heart liberals who choose to live in the city. They get mugged and then blame themselves for being the perpetrators of systemic racism. Some abscond for the suburbs, some tough it out. Then we have a massive low income population response for 98% of the crime. And we have a crime loving city council who won’t consider tough policing or incarceration. Wash rinse repeat.

The real solution if you live in DC is to stay in upper NW or in one of the richer neighborhood or better blocks close in to the capitol and hope you don’t get attacked or at the very least that your rims get stolen. It’s the truth. I honestly have lived here so long, I’ve seen every argument about all this. I’ve seen crime. Someone was stabbed on my block and I saw the blood run down the side walk and then I saw the police catch the suspect. So really it’s nothing new. I just worry the next generation is more accepting of it because they’re so socially conscious. I hope they actually understand that people can be violent and it can’t be all restorative justice and excuses or whatever.

This is spot-on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they’re killing each other it’s arguably beneficial to society. When they kill productive people, it will eventually poison another generation of people against them. I’m sure the doc’s killing will cause some of his friends to become racist.

Yeah, well, statistics don't lie, and the homicide statistics by race are pretty clear -- when 13 percent of the population is committing more than half of all murders in this country, we need to be able to talk about the cultural problems in that community. But you're not allowed to do that (as will be clear when this post gets deleted by the moderator, since any mention of crime statistics by race gets deleted).

IT'S POVERTY. NOT RACE. And the god damn reason most poor people are Black is because white people made it that way. FIX POVERTY.

It wasn't poverty that killed Rakesh Patel. It was bored, depraved youths (or possibly adults, we'll find out soon enough).

[Anonymous]

It’s kids or young adults who were raised with no morals. Lot’s of people in poverty do not commit crimes. Bad parenting is to blame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I almost threw up when I saw this story. And not that any person matters more than another, but at a time when we need medical professionals more than ever. Devastating that a kid from Ohio working hard in DC for the people of DC was murdered so senselessly.

What a stupid statement. Of course his life mattered more than some 15 year old thug on the street. Maybe not to God, but to humanity and our community.

And how dare you reduce his memory to your needs for medical professionals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need to talk about “cultural problems” in a community. We need to talk about public policies rooted in systemic racism that perpetuate cyclical poverty and feelings of hopelessness and indignity.

If UC and UMC white people are looking to blame someone, look in a mirror…

This is the prevailing sentiment. It’s become engrained in the next generation. Everything is caused by system racism and racist structures. In no way are people responsible for their own violent actions because it’s all forces out of their own control. Therefore the solution are endless studies of the root causes of poverty (which are pretty clear already), a lot of yelling, spending millions on programs over the decades that obviously show minimal efficacy, blaming gentrifiers, and essentially deflecting from ever truly solving anything because time simply moves on.

The solutions sort of present themselves. One is that pro development polices in DC have led to tons of new construction that has pushed out a lot of criminal element. Or displaced people based on how you view the city. That’s changed somewhat with a renewed focus on affordable housing and and the focus of housing people n subsidized housing in perpetuity to help ingrain generations of the same family in urban centers. For example, religious protestors were obsessed with Res 13. Now it’s all ultra low income housing and will be a beehive of crime.

We have tons of bleeding heart liberals who choose to live in the city. They get mugged and then blame themselves for being the perpetrators of systemic racism. Some abscond for the suburbs, some tough it out. Then we have a massive low income population response for 98% of the crime. And we have a crime loving city council who won’t consider tough policing or incarceration. Wash rinse repeat.

The real solution if you live in DC is to stay in upper NW or in one of the richer neighborhood or better blocks close in to the capitol and hope you don’t get attacked or at the very least that your rims get stolen. It’s the truth. I honestly have lived here so long, I’ve seen every argument about all this. I’ve seen crime. Someone was stabbed on my block and I saw the blood run down the side walk and then I saw the police catch the suspect. So really it’s nothing new. I just worry the next generation is more accepting of it because they’re so socially conscious. I hope they actually understand that people can be violent and it can’t be all restorative justice and excuses or whatever.

This is spot-on.

Yes, spot for people who want to avoid taking any responsibility for the larger societal problems in which we all play a part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s kids or young adults who were raised with no morals. Lot’s of people in poverty do not commit crimes. Bad parenting is to blame.

This completely. Not all poor people are out there committing crimes. Many have their noses to the grindstone trying to raise families with good values. But there are a lot of single parent households in DC, and kids being born to parents who probably aren't fit to be parents. We need to be honest about this and actually have some punitive measure for parents too if their kids are acting out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s kids or young adults who were raised with no morals. Lot’s of people in poverty do not commit crimes. Bad parenting is to blame.

This completely. Not all poor people are out there committing crimes. Many have their noses to the grindstone trying to raise families with good values. But there are a lot of single parent households in DC, and kids being born to parents who probably aren't fit to be parents. We need to be honest about this and actually have some punitive measure for parents too if their kids are acting out.

Once again, shifting blame to single Black mothers. This Eurocentric patriarchal model of family is pushed by white men on BIPOC. Just because your whole life you have enjoyed the privileges of your whiteness does not make your way the right way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need to talk about “cultural problems” in a community. We need to talk about public policies rooted in systemic racism that perpetuate cyclical poverty and feelings of hopelessness and indignity.

If UC and UMC white people are looking to blame someone, look in a mirror…

Yeah, no it's not UMC white people who are murdering and carjacking in this city. This is just nonsense. Most poor people don't go around murdering and carjacking and assaulting either. Stop trying to blame "whiteness" for sociopathic behavior. For all races, one of the highest risk factors for criminal behavior is single parent family structure --and DC has one of the highest rates of single parent households. I'm all for arguments about better community policing, improving public education, and the like, but guess who is paying the highest taxes to fund those who don't work and don't give back to society and to whom most of those dollars are sent? The UC and UMC people (who are not all white, by the way) whom you are trying to pathologize here.

So the solution here is patriarchy? Is that what you are saying? Property crimes for things that can be easily replaced are not worth the future of our children spending years in jail due to a mistake they made as a kid.

DC should give a new car to each 16 year old black. And if you continue to steal cars after that, then you go to jail and stay there.

What? Why?

What about those of us who can barely afford rent, and manage to piece together public transport ways to get to work?

A different work ethic is in order, not handouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s kids or young adults who were raised with no morals. Lot’s of people in poverty do not commit crimes. Bad parenting is to blame.

This completely. Not all poor people are out there committing crimes. Many have their noses to the grindstone trying to raise families with good values. But there are a lot of single parent households in DC, and kids being born to parents who probably aren't fit to be parents. We need to be honest about this and actually have some punitive measure for parents too if their kids are acting out.

Once again, shifting blame to single Black mothers. This Eurocentric patriarchal model of family is pushed by white men on BIPOC. Just because your whole life you have enjoyed the privileges of your whiteness does not make your way the right way.

What about the families that have two working parents that can barely afford to get by, and are never home because they have to work? What do you say to them?