Farmland ES student death

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like untreated strep. I think this could turn bad with minimal symptoms. Please don't blame people.

A lot of people failed this kid from the county social workers, to the shelter to the school. There were lots of checks and balances and no one did their job.

Oh, please! It's not the school's job to take everyone's temperature. Schools are doing enough as is.
The social workers is another story but the main issue is with the kid's mother. At the end of the day, this was her child and her responsibility.

With Covid, it is. With flu season it is.

I agree. Schools are very involved in children's health these days and not just because things may be communicable. HOw do you not notice a child who is that sick?

We don’t know how he acted at school until the day that he died. Children do not always complain at school —particularly immigrant children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like untreated strep. I think this could turn bad with minimal symptoms. Please don't blame people.

A lot of people failed this kid from the county social workers, to the shelter to the school. There were lots of checks and balances and no one did their job.

Oh, please! It's not the school's job to take everyone's temperature. Schools are doing enough as is.
The social workers is another story but the main issue is with the kid's mother. At the end of the day, this was her child and her responsibility.

With Covid, it is. With flu season it is.

I agree. Schools are very involved in children's health these days and not just because things may be communicable. HOw do you not notice a child who is that sick?

We don’t know how he acted at school until the day that he died. Children do not always complain at school —particularly immigrant children.

Agree. He complained (to only his mother as far as we know) of pain, but there is nothing about any outward symptoms like cough, sneezing, runny nose. I think this sounds more like some kind of ulcer. I don't know, what would cause a child to vomit blood?

[Anonymous]

Could he have had some sort of aortic aneurysm that was causing him pain and then ruptured? They usually happen in older people but can happen in children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is slightly off-topic but my own child went to Farmland many moons ago and back then, there were no shelters in the catchment area. If anything, the area around the school is pretty wealthy. Do they now bus the kids in who don't live nearby?

They bus the kids who live in homeless shelters to their home schools.

I don’t know the farmland area well but if you watch her video she appears to be walking outside of her apartment. I couldn’t identify where those apartments were.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like untreated strep. I think this could turn bad with minimal symptoms. Please don't blame people.

A lot of people failed this kid from the county social workers, to the shelter to the school. There were lots of checks and balances and no one did their job.

Oh, please! It's not the school's job to take everyone's temperature. Schools are doing enough as is.
The social workers is another story but the main issue is with the kid's mother. At the end of the day, this was her child and her responsibility.

With Covid, it is. With flu season it is.

I agree. Schools are very involved in children's health these days and not just because things may be communicable. HOw do you not notice a child who is that sick?

We don’t know how he acted at school until the day that he died. Children do not always complain at school —particularly immigrant children.

Agree. He complained (to only his mother as far as we know) of pain, but there is nothing about any outward symptoms like cough, sneezing, runny nose. I think this sounds more like some kind of ulcer. I don't know, what would cause a child to vomit blood?

An aortic aneurysm can cause chest and stomach pain that comes and goes and then when it ruptures, cause vomiting and rapid death. It's pretty scary.

[Anonymous]

I have a child with a potentially serious medical condition who also attends mcps school. While doctors are testing, they haven’t found the cause of the issue.

I’m just relating this so you think about even when parents and doctors are actively looking for answers, children can experience medical emergencies at school. This is my nightmare scenario. Finding a diagnosis when there are vague symptoms or periodic symptoms is really hard and takes time. This is heart wrenching. Anyone of any income level can lose their child. Please don’t think this couldn’t happen to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But not afraid to speak to the media?

oh ffs. She lost her son. I suspect they are either undocumented or relatively new to the country. What does it matter. Our country makes it so so hard for people to get care.

No, we don't make it hard to get care. If they are living in a shelter, the case manager should have been automatically signing the child up for Medicaid or CHIP. There are also lots of people in the school system that can make referrals to the appropriate social service agencies.

We have numerous free and sliding scale clinics. We have emergency rooms that provide indigent care. If someone moves to a country where they don't know the system, they will need to ask for help, just like I might if I got sick in Guatemala.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Her legal status does not really matter here.
It is easy to blame the system, school and costs, etc. But, ultimately, it isnsibility to make sure your child is well. It is a gross negligence that a parent did not seek help when a child was complainig about pain for a month.

But poor, undocumented people feel like going to the doctor is not an option.

You have OBVIOUSLY not lived in a shelter and had this woman's concerns.

It is easy, from your comfortable living room, knowing what happened to her child, for you to judge her.
But have you taken any action to make health care more available to America's poor Children?

Do you remember this story:

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/jun/13/healthcare-gap-how-can-a-child-die-of-toothache-in-the-us

I suggest you take the time to watch Sicko, which documents the United States' inhumane health care system (compared to other wealthy countries around the globe).

Apparently, you aren't poor and are not aware of the plethora of health care options there are are for poor children in the United States.

[Anonymous]

The part that I am wondering about is why the teacher didn't call 911 automatically. If a child faints and vomits blood, they need more than a school nurse, and delaying a response by 5 minutes to get the nurse to the classroom can be deadly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is slightly off-topic but my own child went to Farmland many moons ago and back then, there were no shelters in the catchment area. If anything, the area around the school is pretty wealthy. Do they now bus the kids in who don't live nearby?

They bus the kids who live in homeless shelters to their home schools.

I don’t know the farmland area well but if you watch her video she appears to be walking outside of her apartment. I couldn’t identify where those apartments were.

She may be staying with a friend or family but she's still qualify as homeless and the kids would get bussed. Or, it might not be her apartment. If that was her only child, she would lose the family shelter housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The part that I am wondering about is why the teacher didn't call 911 automatically. If a child faints and vomits blood, they need more than a school nurse, and delaying a response by 5 minutes to get the nurse to the classroom can be deadly.

That is strange when the teacher must have a cell phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her legal status does not really matter here.
It is easy to blame the system, school and costs, etc. But, ultimately, it isnsibility to make sure your child is well. It is a gross negligence that a parent did not seek help when a child was complainig about pain for a month.

But poor, undocumented people feel like going to the doctor is not an option.

You have OBVIOUSLY not lived in a shelter and had this woman's concerns.

It is easy, from your comfortable living room, knowing what happened to her child, for you to judge her.
But have you taken any action to make health care more available to America's poor Children?

Do you remember this story:

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/jun/13/healthcare-gap-how-can-a-child-die-of-toothache-in-the-us

I suggest you take the time to watch Sicko, which documents the United States' inhumane health care system (compared to other wealthy countries around the globe).

Apparently, you aren't poor and are not aware of the plethora of health care options there are are for poor children in the United States.

Have you tried to access these services or even find doctors who take medicaid? Its very very very difficult. I have. Those free clinics take months to get an appointment. And, basically only Children's and a handful of other places take medicaid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like untreated strep. I think this could turn bad with minimal symptoms. Please don't blame people.

A lot of people failed this kid from the county social workers, to the shelter to the school. There were lots of checks and balances and no one did their job.

Oh, please! It's not the school's job to take everyone's temperature. Schools are doing enough as is.
The social workers is another story but the main issue is with the kid's mother. At the end of the day, this was her child and her responsibility.

With Covid, it is. With flu season it is.

I agree. Schools are very involved in children's health these days and not just because things may be communicable. HOw do you not notice a child who is that sick?

We don’t know how he acted at school until the day that he died. Children do not always complain at school —particularly immigrant children.

At our school, many of the teachers did not speak spanish and used the other kids as translators. Those kids rarely engaged with the teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is so tragic and my heart goes out to everyone--parents, school staff, fellow students.

https://mocoshow.com/blog/a-fifth-grader-has-died-after-falling-ill-at-farmland-elementary-school-in-rockville

The reporting I have seen is not clear as to whether there was a public health concern in this situation, or whether this sudden death was the result of a medical problem that was not communicable. Does anyone know?

And please let's try to respect these folks' privacy otherwise.

Lord have mercy.

You are asking to respect privacy at the same time telling the public about the death?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The part that I am wondering about is why the teacher didn't call 911 automatically. If a child faints and vomits blood, they need more than a school nurse, and delaying a response by 5 minutes to get the nurse to the classroom can be deadly.

That is strange when the teacher must have a cell phone.

Please don't blame the teacher. We have no idea exactly how things played out or the timing of everything. I'm sure it was very hectic.