Second round options for Woodward boundary study

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I personally know an outstanding student in graduate school for … wait for it …. math. Einstein grad. Please don’t act like the kids there aren’t being educated, don’t get high level math etc. you all act like they get nothing and that’s not the case.

That said, just not sure exactly what the Einstein families want with regard to Woodward.

apparently they want MVC and an arts program. and one wants to not reduce overcrowding at Einstein in order to keep more classes.

I’m fine with the crowding but getting rid of the portables would be nice. I want math, stem, arts and other classes students are interested in. If kids want something else and it’s offered at another school, it should be at all schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I personally know an outstanding student in graduate school for … wait for it …. math. Einstein grad. Please don’t act like the kids there aren’t being educated, don’t get high level math etc. you all act like they get nothing and that’s not the case.

That said, just not sure exactly what the Einstein families want with regard to Woodward.

apparently they want MVC and an arts program. and one wants to not reduce overcrowding at Einstein in order to keep more classes.

It’s like 2 or 3 loud people who think what they want is what everyone should want. Their opinions are likely not representative of the entire community and MVC lady’s kid is old enough that the changes will not directly affect her.

DP
It's already been explained multiple times. It's the confluence of all the factors. Neither the boundary proposals nor the intiial regional proposal offer anything of value to Einstein besides reducing overcrowding. On the contrary, they seem to point to a loss of programming for students and fewer options. I personally - that's me, an individual whose child is zoned for Einstein, I am not some amorphous being called "the DCC" - think ending the DCC is the right approach, and keeping more kids in the home school will benefit Einstein. But honestly, the timeline for developing and implementing the regional programs is completely batsh!t insane and anyone saying "I just don't know what the DCC wants!" Is a gaslighting POS. It's going to be a disaster for those first kids that go through it and especially a disaster in the DCC where they are taking something away and replacing it with something they have no good plan to staff or fund.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I personally know an outstanding student in graduate school for … wait for it …. math. Einstein grad. Please don’t act like the kids there aren’t being educated, don’t get high level math etc. you all act like they get nothing and that’s not the case.

That said, just not sure exactly what the Einstein families want with regard to Woodward.

apparently they want MVC and an arts program. and one wants to not reduce overcrowding at Einstein in order to keep more classes.

It’s like 2 or 3 loud people who think what they want is what everyone should want. Their opinions are likely not representative of the entire community and MVC lady’s kid is old enough that the changes will not directly affect her.

DP
It's already been explained multiple times. It's the confluence of all the factors. Neither the boundary proposals nor the intiial regional proposal offer anything of value to Einstein besides reducing overcrowding. On the contrary, they seem to point to a loss of programming for students and fewer options. I personally - that's me, an individual whose child is zoned for Einstein, I am not some amorphous being called "the DCC" - think ending the DCC is the right approach, and keeping more kids in the home school will benefit Einstein. But honestly, the timeline for developing and implementing the regional programs is completely batsh!t insane and anyone saying "I just don't know what the DCC wants!" Is a gaslighting POS. It's going to be a disaster for those first kids that go through it and especially a disaster in the DCC where they are taking something away and replacing it with something they have no good plan to staff or fund.

How will it benefit Einstein families by ending the DCC? Students now can access classes they need/want at Blair and Wheaton, which is significant for kids who are more STEM inclined. With student numbers being reduced, class offerings will be reduced, which will hurt those kids who would go to Blair or Wheaton. They are only opening a handful of slots at BCC and Whitman, so many kids will be left out/behind with this current model.

Many of the students are very unhappy about the changes and they identify with specific programs with these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I personally know an outstanding student in graduate school for … wait for it …. math. Einstein grad. Please don’t act like the kids there aren’t being educated, don’t get high level math etc. you all act like they get nothing and that’s not the case.

That said, just not sure exactly what the Einstein families want with regard to Woodward.

apparently they want MVC and an arts program. and one wants to not reduce overcrowding at Einstein in order to keep more classes.

It’s like 2 or 3 loud people who think what they want is what everyone should want. Their opinions are likely not representative of the entire community and MVC lady’s kid is old enough that the changes will not directly affect her.

DP
It's already been explained multiple times. It's the confluence of all the factors. Neither the boundary proposals nor the intiial regional proposal offer anything of value to Einstein besides reducing overcrowding. On the contrary, they seem to point to a loss of programming for students and fewer options. I personally - that's me, an individual whose child is zoned for Einstein, I am not some amorphous being called "the DCC" - think ending the DCC is the right approach, and keeping more kids in the home school will benefit Einstein. But honestly, the timeline for developing and implementing the regional programs is completely batsh!t insane and anyone saying "I just don't know what the DCC wants!" Is a gaslighting POS. It's going to be a disaster for those first kids that go through it and especially a disaster in the DCC where they are taking something away and replacing it with something they have no good plan to staff or fund.

How will it benefit Einstein families by ending the DCC? Students now can access classes they need/want at Blair and Wheaton, which is significant for kids who are more STEM inclined. With student numbers being reduced, class offerings will be reduced, which will hurt those kids who would go to Blair or Wheaton. They are only opening a handful of slots at BCC and Whitman, so many kids will be left out/behind with this current model.

Many of the students are very unhappy about the changes and they identify with specific programs with these schools.

I think ending the DCC will keep more STEM focused students at Einstein which could lead to a better STEM experience at Einstein. The DCC has not helped Kennedy at all and I think that really needs to be addressed.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps getting out of the DCC is really what Einstein (and Kennedy) need.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents on these threads complaining, so assume they are getting what they want out of this. Wheaton is complaining but that only seems to be due to the 500 seat build out (don’t fully understand that one).

I don’t see current WJ families being redistricted to Woodward complaining (at least in this round of options - original option 3 was a disaster).

So I agree it is a mistake to lump all the DcC together in this, each school now has separate interests and needs to self-advocate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps getting out of the DCC is really what Einstein (and Kennedy) need.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents on these threads complaining, so assume they are getting what they want out of this. Wheaton is complaining but that only seems to be due to the 500 seat build out (don’t fully understand that one).

I don’t see current WJ families being redistricted to Woodward complaining (at least in this round of options - original option 3 was a disaster).

So I agree it is a mistake to lump all the DcC together in this, each school now has separate interests and needs to self-advocate.

Why would you assume this? Maybe talk to the community before making statements like this or don't say anything at all if you don't know.

As far as the Wheaton issue, I don't fully understand why Wheaton's capacity went up by 500 seats from the first boundary options or why a full 500 students zoned for Wheaton are anticipated to go to Edison full time. It's been weeks since they announced the miraculous added capacity and there has been nothing in writing to explain it, nor did the Superintendent propose any funding to build out capacity at Wheaton or Edison in his latest CIP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps getting out of the DCC is really what Einstein (and Kennedy) need.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents on these threads complaining, so assume they are getting what they want out of this. Wheaton is complaining but that only seems to be due to the 500 seat build out (don’t fully understand that one).

I don’t see current WJ families being redistricted to Woodward complaining (at least in this round of options - original option 3 was a disaster).

So I agree it is a mistake to lump all the DcC together in this, each school now has separate interests and needs to self-advocate.

Why would you assume this? Maybe talk to the community before making statements like this or don't say anything at all if you don't know.

As far as the Wheaton issue, I don't fully understand why Wheaton's capacity went up by 500 seats from the first boundary options or why a full 500 students zoned for Wheaton are anticipated to go to Edison full time. It's been weeks since they announced the miraculous added capacity and there has been nothing in writing to explain it, nor did the Superintendent propose any funding to build out capacity at Wheaton or Edison in his latest CIP.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents ON THIS THREAD OR OTHER THREADS complaining. Blair parents are very vocal and powerful, I know that.

I only see threads about Einstein (and Wheaton) so that makes me think Einstein is the one school not getting what they want.

[Anonymous]

I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps getting out of the DCC is really what Einstein (and Kennedy) need.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents on these threads complaining, so assume they are getting what they want out of this. Wheaton is complaining but that only seems to be due to the 500 seat build out (don’t fully understand that one).

I don’t see current WJ families being redistricted to Woodward complaining (at least in this round of options - original option 3 was a disaster).

So I agree it is a mistake to lump all the DcC together in this, each school now has separate interests and needs to self-advocate.

Why would you assume this? Maybe talk to the community before making statements like this or don't say anything at all if you don't know.

As far as the Wheaton issue, I don't fully understand why Wheaton's capacity went up by 500 seats from the first boundary options or why a full 500 students zoned for Wheaton are anticipated to go to Edison full time. It's been weeks since they announced the miraculous added capacity and there has been nothing in writing to explain it, nor did the Superintendent propose any funding to build out capacity at Wheaton or Edison in his latest CIP.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents ON THIS THREAD OR OTHER THREADS complaining. Blair parents are very vocal and powerful, I know that.

I only see threads about Einstein (and Wheaton) so that makes me think Einstein is the one school not getting what they want.

We are zoned to Northwood but I don't generally mention that because I don't think Northwood is being uniquely harmed any more than other DCC schools, so when I post I talk about these options being bad for the DCC generally but don't mention Northwood specifically. So you wouldn't know I'm a Northwood parent but I am. I agree with Einstein parents that they are being especially harmed (especially before the recent changes in the list of programs, which hopefully helps a little) so of course they are naming Einstein specifically to lift that up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps getting out of the DCC is really what Einstein (and Kennedy) need.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents on these threads complaining, so assume they are getting what they want out of this. Wheaton is complaining but that only seems to be due to the 500 seat build out (don’t fully understand that one).

I don’t see current WJ families being redistricted to Woodward complaining (at least in this round of options - original option 3 was a disaster).

So I agree it is a mistake to lump all the DcC together in this, each school now has separate interests and needs to self-advocate.

Why would you assume this? Maybe talk to the community before making statements like this or don't say anything at all if you don't know.

As far as the Wheaton issue, I don't fully understand why Wheaton's capacity went up by 500 seats from the first boundary options or why a full 500 students zoned for Wheaton are anticipated to go to Edison full time. It's been weeks since they announced the miraculous added capacity and there has been nothing in writing to explain it, nor did the Superintendent propose any funding to build out capacity at Wheaton or Edison in his latest CIP.

I don’t see Blair or Northwood parents ON THIS THREAD OR OTHER THREADS complaining. Blair parents are very vocal and powerful, I know that.

I only see threads about Einstein (and Wheaton) so that makes me think Einstein is the one school not getting what they want.

Do you really think DCUM is representative of these communities? SMH

Even what you see about Einstein doesn't represent the preferences or concerns of the whole Einstein community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

[Anonymous]

Oh and BCC is also not appealing for several reasons.

Placing magnet programs at high income schools.is pure idiocy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

I think that goes to how these programs are implemented, not whether we should have the programs. You do realize that your predecessors fought hard to have at least BCC included in the DCC.