Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:I also would view Einstein as being in the strongest Region- with powerhouses Blair, BCC and Whitman. How can that be a bad thing?

Because Einstein folks want the home school to stay strong. I have zero desire to cart my child to Whitman. Being in a region with Whitman is not a plus for me.

But it’s not just about you, PP. it’s about all the kids. Some will really benefit from the opportunity to go to Whitman, BCC, Blair or Northwood (they do have a wonderful theater program). Some will be better off staying at Einstein. Perhaps your chances of getting into Blair improve under this model too.

Placing highly qualified teachers in wealthy schools and siphoning off high achieving students (but only the ones with cars or that can swing a long commute) from low income schools does not help all kids. On the contrary it helps a small number of kids and hurts the majority.

I think that goes to how these programs are implemented, not whether we should have the programs. You do realize that your predecessors fought hard to have at least BCC included in the DCC.

So my "predecessors" were correct? I don't think so. I think if that had occured the DCC would have been even more harmful to schools like Kennedy and Northwood.

[Anonymous]

You can't look at the DCC, say "this is bad" but claim sending a bunch of students from Einstein, Northwood and Blair to BCC and Whitman is going to be good for the low income schools. GMAFB

[Anonymous]

From a few years back, the SMOB at the time stated that what the kids really wanted was to get to know kids from across the county. I think that’s still true. They (ok maybe not all, but some) love getting out of their bubble and expanding their peer group.

I assure you, from what I know of parents at the schools down county, that the parents in your Region will work hard to make it the very best. Perhaps you should try to align with them to get what Einstein needs. They will be on your team PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't look at the DCC, say "this is bad" but claim sending a bunch of students from Einstein, Northwood and Blair to BCC and Whitman is going to be good for the low income schools. GMAFB

Who said DCC was bad? I think mcps is saying DCC is great, so great it should be available to all students in the county.

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Anonymous wrote:From a few years back, the SMOB at the time stated that what the kids really wanted was to get to know kids from across the county. I think that’s still true. They (ok maybe not all, but some) love getting out of their bubble and expanding their peer group.

I assure you, from what I know of parents at the schools down county, that the parents in your Region will work hard to make it the very best. Perhaps you should try to align with them to get what Einstein needs. They will be on your team PP.

I have no doubt kids want to get to know kids from other parts of the county, but that doesn't mean Whitman and BCC kids are going to go to Northwood for a public service program. You can't ignore inequities and prejudices with feel good platitudes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't look at the DCC, say "this is bad" but claim sending a bunch of students from Einstein, Northwood and Blair to BCC and Whitman is going to be good for the low income schools. GMAFB

Isn’t the idea that students from Whitman and BCC will go to Einstein, Northwood and Blair? If the programs are good enough, they will come.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't look at the DCC, say "this is bad" but claim sending a bunch of students from Einstein, Northwood and Blair to BCC and Whitman is going to be good for the low income schools. GMAFB

Who said DCC was bad? I think mcps is saying DCC is great, so great it should be available to all students in the county.

No, they are getting rid of the DCC. The regional model is quite different from the DCC and is worse because the transportation will be horrendous, which will make it even more inequitable. At the recent County Council discussion, a couple of Councilmembers referenced the negative effects of the DCC and a desire not to reproduce that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From a few years back, the SMOB at the time stated that what the kids really wanted was to get to know kids from across the county. I think that’s still true. They (ok maybe not all, but some) love getting out of their bubble and expanding their peer group.

I assure you, from what I know of parents at the schools down county, that the parents in your Region will work hard to make it the very best. Perhaps you should try to align with them to get what Einstein needs. They will be on your team PP.

I have no doubt kids want to get to know kids from other parts of the county, but that doesn't mean Whitman and BCC kids are going to go to Northwood for a public service program. You can't ignore inequities and prejudices with feel good platitudes.

You have to start somewhere PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't look at the DCC, say "this is bad" but claim sending a bunch of students from Einstein, Northwood and Blair to BCC and Whitman is going to be good for the low income schools. GMAFB

Isn’t the idea that students from Whitman and BCC will go to Einstein, Northwood and Blair? If the programs are good enough, they will come.

Right, the programs that will receive practically zero resources will be awesome s/

Look at how many kids.are clamoring to attend the IB program at Kennedy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From a few years back, the SMOB at the time stated that what the kids really wanted was to get to know kids from across the county. I think that’s still true. They (ok maybe not all, but some) love getting out of their bubble and expanding their peer group.

I assure you, from what I know of parents at the schools down county, that the parents in your Region will work hard to make it the very best. Perhaps you should try to align with them to get what Einstein needs. They will be on your team PP.

I have no doubt kids want to get to know kids from other parts of the county, but that doesn't mean Whitman and BCC kids are going to go to Northwood for a public service program. You can't ignore inequities and prejudices with feel good platitudes.

You have to start somewhere PP.

Yes, but that starting point is very different from what MCPS is proposing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't look at the DCC, say "this is bad" but claim sending a bunch of students from Einstein, Northwood and Blair to BCC and Whitman is going to be good for the low income schools. GMAFB

Who said DCC was bad? I think mcps is saying DCC is great, so great it should be available to all students in the county.

No, they are getting rid of the DCC. The regional model is quite different from the DCC and is worse because the transportation will be horrendous, which will make it even more inequitable. At the recent County Council discussion, a couple of Councilmembers referenced the negative effects of the DCC and a desire not to reproduce that.

what did they specify as the negative effects? that highly motivated students were leaving their home schools, leaving the home schools worse?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't look at the DCC, say "this is bad" but claim sending a bunch of students from Einstein, Northwood and Blair to BCC and Whitman is going to be good for the low income schools. GMAFB

Who said DCC was bad? I think mcps is saying DCC is great, so great it should be available to all students in the county.

No, they are getting rid of the DCC. The regional model is quite different from the DCC and is worse because the transportation will be horrendous, which will make it even more inequitable. At the recent County Council discussion, a couple of Councilmembers referenced the negative effects of the DCC and a desire not to reproduce that.

what did they specify as the negative effects? that highly motivated students were leaving their home schools, leaving the home schools worse?

They didn't go into detail but I inferred just what you said above

[Anonymous]

But would add that it's highly motivated students with access to transportation and extra time. Their highly motivated peers with jobs, sibling care responsibilities, and without access to transportation get left behind. The opposite of equity.

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Parents will do the math here. Are the programs good. Are the schools safe. Can my kid participate in what he wants to (eg soccer or student government ). Will this help him get into Harvard or Yale. Does my kid want a change of scenery from being around the same kids since kindergarten.

Some will leave Whitman or BCC, I assure you. I think you’re being really pessimistic to assume they will not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents will do the math here. Are the programs good. Are the schools safe. Can my kid participate in what he wants to (eg soccer or student government ). Will this help him get into Harvard or Yale. Does my kid want a change of scenery from being around the same kids since kindergarten.

Some will leave Whitman or BCC, I assure you. I think you’re being really pessimistic to assume they will not.

Just look at the current stats. Fewer than 10 Whitman students attend a countywide magnet at RMIB and 19 attend a countywide magnet at Blair. These are highly competitive well established programs. Those families are not sending their kids to lower income schools now and you think they are going to send them to less competitive programs in the DCC?