Why does our nanny want to be paid for two kids when she's only caring for one?

[Anonymous]

Most people want to earn the most they can.
Why should nannies be exempt?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I already gave the reason above - that I think he's ready for it and needs it. It doesn't matter what others decide to do - they are deciding for their own children, and I, for mine. I also don't want the nanny to split her attention - she should focus on the baby. I don't want the baby dragged around for pickup and dropoff, and I don't want the older child's activities and schedule compromised because of the infant. They have very different care needs, which are best met by different setups.

To the poster at 17.36 - I don't know where you found preschools that are both full-time AND end at 3.30. That's not full-time. All full-time preschools we toured are open at 6 pm. You don't need to "go out of your way" to find them. That's a standard schedule for full-time care in DC area.

She's not paid over $25/hr, I should have said she's paid higher than any of the hourly numbers you mentioned. I didn't include the bonus number you referenced. So, over $17/hr but under $25/hr.

Preschools aren't open that late. Preschools have a definite start time (eg. children arrive between 8.15 and 8.30, preschool starts at 8.35) and a definite end (preschool ends at 3.30, pick up is 3.30 -3.45). Daycares don't have a set time for drop off and pick up. Before and after care for preschool may or may not have definite start and end time. A parent looking for a preschool isn't looking for a daycare and vice versa. Full time school is as long as or shorter than elementary school. A parent who looks for a preschool won't find a preschool still open at 6 pm.

You are being unnecessarily pedantic and lectury. The line between preschool and daycare is vague, and tons of preschools in this area have aftercare with activities that stretch to 6 pm. Parents look for both preschool and daycares, and many facilities are a mix of the two. There are no additional licensing or regulation requirements that preschools have to meet before they can call themselves preschools. It's not about the label, it's about content.

I was responding to the bolded statement. Whichever facilities were toured were daycares, not preschools. Tons of parents and nannies are familiar with full-time preschools (and none of the have SCHOOL going at 6 pm, though they may have aftercare still open at 6 pm), which is why I explained the difference.

Please, tell elementary schools that they aren't full-time. The child might get there at 8 and leave at 3.30! That's not full-time! Sorry, but preschools are preparation for full-day school, and they do mimic the same schedules that schools have. They may also offer childcare for extra hours too, just like many (but not all) elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Would it make you feel better if I called it "preschool with aftercare"? Would it make it all right?

[Anonymous]

I feel sorry for your little one. That's a long day. Have you thought about that? Judging from your replies, you don't seem like the mothering type but maybe consider your child because that's a really long day to basically be at daycare all year round.

[Anonymous]

You are not very smart, there is no such thing as preschool until 6pm!! That's called after care, but you're just trying to justify that for some weird reason. I feel sorry for a 4 year old away from home and those who love him 10 hours a day, when he could be home at 3pm like most kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for your little one. That's a long day. Have you thought about that? Judging from your replies, you don't seem like the mothering type but maybe consider your child because that's a really long day to basically be at daycare all year round.

Agreed. It's horrible for any child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for your little one. That's a long day. Have you thought about that? Judging from your replies, you don't seem like the mothering type but maybe consider your child because that's a really long day to basically be at daycare all year round.

Agreed. It's horrible for any child.

Oh please! you know what's truly horrible for a child would be staying with judgy greedy nannies and picking up bad attitude

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would it make you feel better if I called it "preschool with aftercare"? Would it make it all right?

My issue is that you tried to say that other parents and nannies couldn't possibly have kids in full-time preschool because they get out around 3.30 pm. You specifically said it's not full-time and said that all the preschools you toured were open at 6 pm. You are entitled to finding and choosing whatever care you want, which is your choice. But don't say that other parent's choices (especially when those choices are so prevalent) don't exist.

Young children who have had a nanny their whole lives need to be eased into full-time, full-time preschool will have several closures for the nanny to cover, nanny will be available for sick and snow days, and nanny is usually the person doing pick up and drop off. Those are some of the reasons that parents have the nanny continue working with the child. You may not need or want that, but that doesn't negate other parents' choices and needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for your little one. That's a long day. Have you thought about that? Judging from your replies, you don't seem like the mothering type but maybe consider your child because that's a really long day to basically be at daycare all year round.

Agreed. It's horrible for any child.

Oh please! you know what's truly horrible for a child would be staying with judgy greedy nannies and picking up bad attitude

A 4 year old who has only ever been in part-time preschool (so 2.5-4 hours) is unlikely to transition smoothly to full-time preschool with before and aftercare, or daycare that lasts 8-12 hours. You won't pick up your child until 6 pm, so unless your son is dropped off at 9 am or later, that's 9 hours per day. There's no downtime, no chance to take a breath and recharge. There's no chance to have any time to himself. It can work, and for your son's sake, I hope that it does work from the start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are not very smart, there is no such thing as preschool until 6pm!! That's called after care, but you're just trying to justify that for some weird reason. I feel sorry for a 4 year old away from home and those who love him 10 hours a day, when he could be home at 3pm like most kids.

Most kids? You are out of touch with reality. Kids at home at 3 pm either have a SAH parent, a WAH or working part-time parent, or a nanny. That group does not extend to "most kids", it's a minority. Take a walk through the childcare facilities of this town at 5 pm, and see where most kids are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would it make you feel better if I called it "preschool with aftercare"? Would it make it all right?

My issue is that you tried to say that other parents and nannies couldn't possibly have kids in full-time preschool because they get out around 3.30 pm. You specifically said it's not full-time and said that all the preschools you toured were open at 6 pm. You are entitled to finding and choosing whatever care you want, which is your choice. But don't say that other parent's choices (especially when those choices are so prevalent) don't exist.

Young children who have had a nanny their whole lives need to be eased into full-time, full-time preschool will have several closures for the nanny to cover, nanny will be available for sick and snow days, and nanny is usually the person doing pick up and drop off. Those are some of the reasons that parents have the nanny continue working with the child. You may not need or want that, but that doesn't negate other parents' choices and needs.

You are harping on a semantic difference, not a substantive one. To me, a place open till 3.30 pm is not full time. When I say "full time", I mean until 6 pm. And by the way, every working parent will understand this the same way unless you specifically explain to them that in a preschool world, "full time" really means 3.30 pm. I never said preschools that are open till 3.30 pm do not exist, I simply do not consider them full time. You are entitled call them whatever, but again, this is a difference in semantics, not substance. Our preschool closes only on federal holidays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for your little one. That's a long day. Have you thought about that? Judging from your replies, you don't seem like the mothering type but maybe consider your child because that's a really long day to basically be at daycare all year round.

Agreed. It's horrible for any child.

Oh please! you know what's truly horrible for a child would be staying with judgy greedy nannies and picking up bad attitude

A 4 year old who has only ever been in part-time preschool (so 2.5-4 hours) is unlikely to transition smoothly to full-time preschool with before and aftercare, or daycare that lasts 8-12 hours. You won't pick up your child until 6 pm, so unless your son is dropped off at 9 am or later, that's 9 hours per day. There's no downtime, no chance to take a breath and recharge. There's no chance to have any time to himself. It can work, and for your son's sake, I hope that it does work from the start.

Again, you keep mentioning 12 hours for some weird reason.

Your message makes me think that you don't really know what happens inside childcare facilities. No downtime? No time to take a breath? Childcare facilities have a mandated 2-hr break for nap and quiet time. Plenty of time to recharge.

[Anonymous]

^^ But I thought this was a preschool not a daycare? Preschools 100% donor have 2hr mandated downtime. Put down the pipe, lady!! 'Nap time' at preschool is at most 45 mins - 1hr and do you think the kids are instantly sleeping on a floor at school with their friends? Please. Why are you even a parent??

[Anonymous]

Will she be doing anything at all related to the older child - like laundry or food prep even? If not, a raise isn't needed but I'd offer a higher rate on days that the nanny does end up with some overlap, it's bound to happen. My sister does this with her nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ But I thought this was a preschool not a daycare? Preschools 100% donor have 2hr mandated downtime. Put down the pipe, lady!! 'Nap time' at preschool is at most 45 mins - 1hr and do you think the kids are instantly sleeping on a floor at school with their friends? Please. Why are you even a parent??

His preschool has a 2-hr naptime with lights out and quiet room for non-nappers.

The black-and-white difference between preschools and daycares exists only in your mind.