Had argument with MB and could use perspective. Lengthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Sometimes that is what the job entails though. My MB's tend to tell me that I don't have to stay in the waiting room etc but that I can go off and enjoy that hour on my own (and still get paid), but they would never randomly decide that I must run errands without a list, money, and the fact that we might not be headed straight home afterwards. If we had talked about it before, then that would be fine. I wouldn't object to it, as I am getting paid for that time and don't expect to sit on my butt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Pray tell, what WAS OP supposed to do if not sit and wait? Apparently you have never taken kids to activities cause ths is EXACTLY what I'm always asked to do.

[Anonymous]

OP, where was the 20-month-old when you and the 5-year-old were at that class? Was he/she at home with the MB? If so, why was that? Seems a little late in the day for a child that age to be napping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Pray tell, what WAS OP supposed to do if not sit and wait? Apparently you have never taken kids to activities cause ths is EXACTLY what I'm always asked to do.

I sit and wait at each activity. I do not leave the facility. The kids are ultimately your responsibility not the facility and that is what she is getting paid for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Pray tell, what WAS OP supposed to do if not sit and wait? Apparently you have never taken kids to activities cause ths is EXACTLY what I'm always asked to do.

I sit and wait at each activity. I do not leave the facility. The kids are ultimately your responsibility not the facility and that is what she is getting paid for.

Lol, then why did the mom get mad at OP for not asking to run errands?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Pray tell, what WAS OP supposed to do if not sit and wait? Apparently you have never taken kids to activities cause ths is EXACTLY what I'm always asked to do.

I sit and wait at each activity. I do not leave the facility. The kids are ultimately your responsibility not the facility and that is what she is getting paid for.

Lol, then why did the mom get mad at OP for not asking to run errands?

Mom is not feeling well. OP could have stepped up and offered to help more until mom is feeling better. OP wants to leave the facility and do her own thing while getting paid for an hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Pray tell, what WAS OP supposed to do if not sit and wait? Apparently you have never taken kids to activities cause ths is EXACTLY what I'm always asked to do.

I sit and wait at each activity. I do not leave the facility. The kids are ultimately your responsibility not the facility and that is what she is getting paid for.

Lol, then why did the mom get mad at OP for not asking to run errands?

Mom is not feeling well. OP could have stepped up and offered to help more until mom is feeling better. OP wants to leave the facility and do her own thing while getting paid for an hour.

Uh no. Mom could have asked. OP was supposed to use her own funds? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Pray tell, what WAS OP supposed to do if not sit and wait? Apparently you have never taken kids to activities cause ths is EXACTLY what I'm always asked to do.

I sit and wait at each activity. I do not leave the facility. The kids are ultimately your responsibility not the facility and that is what she is getting paid for.

Lol, then why did the mom get mad at OP for not asking to run errands?

Mom is not feeling well. OP could have stepped up and offered to help more until mom is feeling better. OP wants to leave the facility and do her own thing while getting paid for an hour.

Uh no. Mom could have asked. OP was supposed to use her own funds? No.

Exactly. Like has been said before, everyone tends to be on their best behavior in the first few weeks of a position. This MB has already shown herself to expect her employee to be a mind reader, as well as to volunteer to do a task for which they never negotiated. She's asking for extras less than a week into the job! For an MB that I loved and had know for some time, you bet I'd bend over backwards to make her comfortable and at ease. OP has known this woman for a week. She did nothing wrong by not volunteering to do more than she agreed to do. Also MB is pregnant, not "not feeling well". How is it going to look if OP starts her job by doing a ton of extras, then once MB is back in her feet (with a newborn?) she scales back the extras? No. The first few weeks definitely set the tone for the job. You do your job excellently, but you don't do more than you are paid to do. If the family is appreciative, has normal expectations, etc. THEN you do what you can outside of your job to add value. OP should have just stayed in the lobby like she was supposed to without asking to do otherwise. And sure offering to do errands would be nice, but bitching because an employee has done precisely what you hired her to do is beyond reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - any interest in salvadging it? You could apologize specifically for the things that were your fault, ask her to clarify your contract and expectations and give it another couple weeks?

No. I plan on apologizing again for asking to leave early and having my phone on during work hours, but other than that, I don't feel too much like I did anything else wrong. She was home everyday this week. She knows I wasn't a sit on my butt nanny at all, and honestly, with her being home, I tried very hard to be constantly engaged and 'on' since boss was right there. I think the pregnancy has stressed her and I really feel for her. I do wish them the very best and if I were in her situation, I would definitely seek someone who can do housekeeping and errands since it's dificult right now. For $20/hr, she will absolutely find an appropriate fit for household and child care needs.

The kid had an hour-long class and you wanted to sit on your ass in your car to play on your phone. How exactly does that demonstrate that you're not a "sit on my butt nanny at all"? That is EXACTLY what you are.

Pray tell, what WAS OP supposed to do if not sit and wait? Apparently you have never taken kids to activities cause ths is EXACTLY what I'm always asked to do.

I sit and wait at each activity. I do not leave the facility. The kids are ultimately your responsibility not the facility and that is what she is getting paid for.

Lol, then why did the mom get mad at OP for not asking to run errands?

Mom is not feeling well. OP could have stepped up and offered to help more until mom is feeling better. OP wants to leave the facility and do her own thing while getting paid for an hour.

Uh no. Mom could have asked. OP was supposed to use her own funds? No.

Exactly. Like has been said before, everyone tends to be on their best behavior in the first few weeks of a position. This MB has already shown herself to expect her employee to be a mind reader, as well as to volunteer to do a task for which they never negotiated. She's asking for extras less than a week into the job! For an MB that I loved and had know for some time, you bet I'd bend over backwards to make her comfortable and at ease. OP has known this woman for a week. She did nothing wrong by not volunteering to do more than she agreed to do. Also MB is pregnant, not "not feeling well". How is it going to look if OP starts her job by doing a ton of extras, then once MB is back in her feet (with a newborn?) she scales back the extras? No. The first few weeks definitely set the tone for the job. You do your job excellently, but you don't do more than you are paid to do. If the family is appreciative, has normal expectations, etc. THEN you do what you can outside of your job to add value. OP should have just stayed in the lobby like she was supposed to without asking to do otherwise. And sure offering to do errands would be nice, but bitching because an employee has done precisely what you hired her to do is beyond reason.

Absolutely. I'm failing to understand how some of the posters don't see that while OP did some wrong things, the mb did as well.

[Anonymous]

I feel like most posters said they were both wrong...

[Anonymous]

Nobody gets more per hour just because there are less hours. Another lie made up by nannies. I would never, and have never, paid more just because I needed less than 20 hours of care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody gets more per hour just because there are less hours. Another lie made up by nannies. I would never, and have never, paid more just because I needed less than 20 hours of care.

Nobody? You must be kidding!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody gets more per hour just because there are less hours. Another lie made up by nannies. I would never, and have never, paid more just because I needed less than 20 hours of care.

Nobody? You must be kidding!

+1 this is pretty comm, even outside of the nanny realm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody gets more per hour just because there are less hours. Another lie made up by nannies. I would never, and have never, paid more just because I needed less than 20 hours of care.

This is not a lie. I get paid $20-25/hr to pick up a kid and do NO housekeeping, when it might be from 1-3 hours per day, yet if I were to take on the same position that had 20+ hours per week, the pay would probably start around $15-18/hr. Many parents realize that to ask someone to give up a couple of hours during the day, in the middle of the afternoon, which would make it nearly impossible to find another position for that afternoon/evening that could work with those hours, that they need to pay more for it. 3-6pm, means giving up anything that could start at noon, makes anything where someone would want something from 5/6pm-9pm out of the question and wouldn't work with other PT jobs that are not childcare. If you want me to work for just 3 hours that whole afternoon, I need more money to make it cost effective for myself. Most people do. They also realize that others pay a higher premium, and if they want a good nanny, they will need to offer it as well or else the nanny will say no to their position and take a different higher paying one instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody gets more per hour just because there are less hours. Another lie made up by nannies. I would never, and have never, paid more just because I needed less than 20 hours of care.

It's the know nothing fool poster. The troll needs to be ignored.