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Anonymous wrote:I travel frequently for work and have thus far always brought infant now toddler. I screen for au pairs who like to travel and put it in our handbook. I have taken au pairs to Europe, Asia, and random boring to gritty US cities. If AP doesn’t want to for all or part of the trip, she has to use her vacation time (it’s never happened). Our AP gets every evening and weekend off, but works until 4:00 on Friday. I don’t feel bad if she’s “stuck in Rehoboth or Rome or Tokyo or Kansas City. A an AP that is really in it for the cultural exchange should be able to entertain herself for the odd weekend away.


That is really crummy.


Yeah, who wants to go to Rome or Tokyo? The horror! You actually were up front about your needs with the AP upfront, she agreed to them, and then you have the audacity to take her to Europe??? True Cruella Daville stuff, this is.


Is the airport free to explore Tokyo and Rome on her own? No. I went to Australia for 2 weeks with a family and literally never left the hotel once. On a plane with a screaming baby while my MB sat in business and took ambien. Working 24/7. Sharing a room with the kids. Being on call 24/7. Yeah. There’s lots of reasons aupairs and nannies don’t wanT to travel with families!!


I am sorry for your clearly traumatic experience - but it is certainly not universal. I pay for a separate hotel room or bedroom for my AP because she is working on these trips. She generally works her same schedule 8-4 with evenings and weekends off (or something akin, mornings and evenings with afternoons off) with a 45 hour cap. Any more than that, we pay for a hotel babysitter. On the plane we sit together in coach, usually the baby is worn by me, with occasional relief here and there. Our AP has gone to anime conventions, concerts, lessons, sporting events, lots of shopping, etc., on her off time. She can hang with us - or go out on her own when she's off - we will drop her off or help her take public transportation. We pay for her food and any excursion she takes DD to. So, our APs are generally happy with this arrangement, because we tell them in advance and discuss frequently. We give one week of vacation that she picks and one week that we pick - and if she prefers to break it up with long weekends here and there, we don't care.


Travel time should be considered work time.


Well, my travel time (as with many professionals) is not considered work time, so I am unaware on the regulation you are relying on for that statement. That said, on the days that we do travel, she is never alone with DD, and is only called into action if needed. Again, sorry for your trauma: your damage has clearly made you bitter and jaded about the AP program. We all wish you had never been an AP.


I'm a working professional and my travel time is considered work time. It it weren't, I wouldn't get reimbursed for meals.

If my job requires me to fly or drive somewhere other than my daily home office, I'm on their clock. Not mine.


If you are a salaried employee, it doesn’t matter how you consider your time. You may get reimbursed for meals and mileage, but I doubt any private employer would let you claim commute or travel time as part of your hours - the federal government does not.


Yes, you can claim the hours and flex your week. My spouse will flex. If he flies on Sunday and back Thursday, he will take Friday off. Commute no, travel out of state, yes.
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Anonymous wrote:So I guess op doesn’t want to come back and explain how the au pair is getting her 1.5 days off when she’s working all week plus going to the snow house on weekends. She just wants to come back and comment when it’s osmething that makes her look good and the au pair look bad. How about following the rules of the program? You can’t look after your own kids 1.5 days a week? Sounds like a great parent!!


Op here. Did you miss my posts explaining how much I look after my kids? I bet I do significantly more than many working mothers. If ap is working on the weekends she gets other time off. Usually all day Monday or Wednesday, In addition to whatever day on the weekend she isn’t working. Not all host families are bound to the 1.5 consecutive days off, it’s just 1.5 days off total, which my ap who usually works 25ish hours a week more than gets. I more than follow the rules of the program. There is zero rule that the au pair is only “allowed” to work in one place.


Please stop dancing around and explain which days she gets off? Because it appears she’s working mon-fri and then sat-sun at your second home. Am I missing something?
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Anonymous wrote:So I guess op doesn’t want to come back and explain how the au pair is getting her 1.5 days off when she’s working all week plus going to the snow house on weekends. She just wants to come back and comment when it’s osmething that makes her look good and the au pair look bad. How about following the rules of the program? You can’t look after your own kids 1.5 days a week? Sounds like a great parent!!


Op here. Did you miss my posts explaining how much I look after my kids? I bet I do significantly more than many working mothers. If ap is working on the weekends she gets other time off. Usually all day Monday or Wednesday, In addition to whatever day on the weekend she isn’t working. Not all host families are bound to the 1.5 consecutive days off, it’s just 1.5 days off total, which my ap who usually works 25ish hours a week more than gets. I more than follow the rules of the program. There is zero rule that the au pair is only “allowed” to work in one place.


Please stop dancing around and explain which days she gets off? Because it appears she’s working mon-fri and then sat-sun at your second home. Am I missing something?


OP just said she doesn't do the one day and half consecutive day off.
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Anonymous wrote:So I guess op doesn’t want to come back and explain how the au pair is getting her 1.5 days off when she’s working all week plus going to the snow house on weekends. She just wants to come back and comment when it’s osmething that makes her look good and the au pair look bad. How about following the rules of the program? You can’t look after your own kids 1.5 days a week? Sounds like a great parent!!


Op here. Did you miss my posts explaining how much I look after my kids? I bet I do significantly more than many working mothers. If ap is working on the weekends she gets other time off. Usually all day Monday or Wednesday, In addition to whatever day on the weekend she isn’t working. Not all host families are bound to the 1.5 consecutive days off, it’s just 1.5 days off total, which my ap who usually works 25ish hours a week more than gets. I more than follow the rules of the program. There is zero rule that the au pair is only “allowed” to work in one place.


Please stop dancing around and explain which days she gets off? Because it appears she’s working mon-fri and then sat-sun at your second home. Am I missing something?


OP just said she doesn't do the one day and half consecutive day off.


Op - usually she gets the full weekend off, if she’s working the weekend often it’s just Sunday nights. Otherwise if she works other parts of the weekend she gets a different day off, all of Monday until Tuesday afternoon, all of weds until Thursday afternoon... or since most weekdays she only works @5.5 hours I can cur it down half an hour easily and then she’s only working half days all week and has a weekend day off. I don’t see why you keep thinking my ap is working constantly.
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I was a fed, and we absolutely could not claim the travel time unless we were working during the commute (e.g., on plane or train) out of state/country. So, perhaps it varies by agency, but again, most professionals cannot claim travel time as work hours (professors, lawyers, doctors, etc.). It would not make sense to use a nine hour plane ride where the AP sleeps for 7.5 hours and watches a movie for 1.5 hours. If she were working she wouldn't be sleeping or watching a movie with her headphones on.
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Anonymous wrote:I travel frequently for work and have thus far always brought infant now toddler. I screen for au pairs who like to travel and put it in our handbook. I have taken au pairs to Europe, Asia, and random boring to gritty US cities. If AP doesn’t want to for all or part of the trip, she has to use her vacation time (it’s never happened). Our AP gets every evening and weekend off, but works until 4:00 on Friday. I don’t feel bad if she’s “stuck in Rehoboth or Rome or Tokyo or Kansas City. A an AP that is really in it for the cultural exchange should be able to entertain herself for the odd weekend away.


That is really crummy.


Yeah, who wants to go to Rome or Tokyo? The horror! You actually were up front about your needs with the AP upfront, she agreed to them, and then you have the audacity to take her to Europe??? True Cruella Daville stuff, this is.


Is the airport free to explore Tokyo and Rome on her own? No. I went to Australia for 2 weeks with a family and literally never left the hotel once. On a plane with a screaming baby while my MB sat in business and took ambien. Working 24/7. Sharing a room with the kids. Being on call 24/7. Yeah. There’s lots of reasons aupairs and nannies don’t wanT to travel with families!!


Nannies who agree to travel are allowed to work 24/7 for extra compensation, au pairs are not.
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Anonymous wrote:I travel frequently for work and have thus far always brought infant now toddler. I screen for au pairs who like to travel and put it in our handbook. I have taken au pairs to Europe, Asia, and random boring to gritty US cities. If AP doesn’t want to for all or part of the trip, she has to use her vacation time (it’s never happened). Our AP gets every evening and weekend off, but works until 4:00 on Friday. I don’t feel bad if she’s “stuck in Rehoboth or Rome or Tokyo or Kansas City. A an AP that is really in it for the cultural exchange should be able to entertain herself for the odd weekend away.


That is really crummy.


Yeah, who wants to go to Rome or Tokyo? The horror! You actually were up front about your needs with the AP upfront, she agreed to them, and then you have the audacity to take her to Europe??? True Cruella Daville stuff, this is.


Is the airport free to explore Tokyo and Rome on her own? No. I went to Australia for 2 weeks with a family and literally never left the hotel once. On a plane with a screaming baby while my MB sat in business and took ambien. Working 24/7. Sharing a room with the kids. Being on call 24/7. Yeah. There’s lots of reasons aupairs and nannies don’t wanT to travel with families!!


I am sorry for your clearly traumatic experience - but it is certainly not universal. I pay for a separate hotel room or bedroom for my AP because she is working on these trips. She generally works her same schedule 8-4 with evenings and weekends off (or something akin, mornings and evenings with afternoons off) with a 45 hour cap. Any more than that, we pay for a hotel babysitter. On the plane we sit together in coach, usually the baby is worn by me, with occasional relief here and there. Our AP has gone to anime conventions, concerts, lessons, sporting events, lots of shopping, etc., on her off time. She can hang with us - or go out on her own when she's off - we will drop her off or help her take public transportation. We pay for her food and any excursion she takes DD to. So, our APs are generally happy with this arrangement, because we tell them in advance and discuss frequently. We give one week of vacation that she picks and one week that we pick - and if she prefers to break it up with long weekends here and there, we don't care.


Travel time should be considered work time.


Well, my travel time (as with many professionals) is not considered work time, so I am unaware on the regulation you are relying on for that statement. That said, on the days that we do travel, she is never alone with DD, and is only called into action if needed. Again, sorry for your trauma: your damage has clearly made you bitter and jaded about the AP program. We all wish you had never been an AP.


I'm a working professional and my travel time is considered work time. It it weren't, I wouldn't get reimbursed for meals.

If my job requires me to fly or drive somewhere other than my daily home office, I'm on their clock. Not mine.


I call BS on this one. Commuting time is NOT on a professional clock. For example, lawyers can only ethically for spending time doing legal work. They cannot bill you for the time they spend in traffic or on a plane. They can ask you to reimburse expenses - but they do not get paid for travel time.


Commuting= time to and from the typical workspace, not compensated as most employees commute
Travel time= time spent traveling to a different, farther work space, usually temporary, almost always compensated at either a mileage rate or with employer paying transportation, employer frequently compensated for time
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Anonymous wrote:I travel frequently for work and have thus far always brought infant now toddler. I screen for au pairs who like to travel and put it in our handbook. I have taken au pairs to Europe, Asia, and random boring to gritty US cities. If AP doesn’t want to for all or part of the trip, she has to use her vacation time (it’s never happened). Our AP gets every evening and weekend off, but works until 4:00 on Friday. I don’t feel bad if she’s “stuck in Rehoboth or Rome or Tokyo or Kansas City. A an AP that is really in it for the cultural exchange should be able to entertain herself for the odd weekend away.


That is really crummy.


Yeah, who wants to go to Rome or Tokyo? The horror! You actually were up front about your needs with the AP upfront, she agreed to them, and then you have the audacity to take her to Europe??? True Cruella Daville stuff, this is.


Is the airport free to explore Tokyo and Rome on her own? No. I went to Australia for 2 weeks with a family and literally never left the hotel once. On a plane with a screaming baby while my MB sat in business and took ambien. Working 24/7. Sharing a room with the kids. Being on call 24/7. Yeah. There’s lots of reasons aupairs and nannies don’t wanT to travel with families!!


I am sorry for your clearly traumatic experience - but it is certainly not universal. I pay for a separate hotel room or bedroom for my AP because she is working on these trips. She generally works her same schedule 8-4 with evenings and weekends off (or something akin, mornings and evenings with afternoons off) with a 45 hour cap. Any more than that, we pay for a hotel babysitter. On the plane we sit together in coach, usually the baby is worn by me, with occasional relief here and there. Our AP has gone to anime conventions, concerts, lessons, sporting events, lots of shopping, etc., on her off time. She can hang with us - or go out on her own when she's off - we will drop her off or help her take public transportation. We pay for her food and any excursion she takes DD to. So, our APs are generally happy with this arrangement, because we tell them in advance and discuss frequently. We give one week of vacation that she picks and one week that we pick - and if she prefers to break it up with long weekends here and there, we don't care.


Travel time should be considered work time.


Well, my travel time (as with many professionals) is not considered work time, so I am unaware on the regulation you are relying on for that statement. That said, on the days that we do travel, she is never alone with DD, and is only called into action if needed. Again, sorry for your trauma: your damage has clearly made you bitter and jaded about the AP program. We all wish you had never been an AP.


I'm a working professional and my travel time is considered work time. It it weren't, I wouldn't get reimbursed for meals.

If my job requires me to fly or drive somewhere other than my daily home office, I'm on their clock. Not mine.


I call BS on this one. Commuting time is NOT on a professional clock. For example, lawyers can only ethically for spending time doing legal work. They cannot bill you for the time they spend in traffic or on a plane. They can ask you to reimburse expenses - but they do not get paid for travel time.


Commuting= time to and from the typical workspace, not compensated as most employees commute
Travel time= time spent traveling to a different, farther work space, usually temporary, almost always compensated at either a mileage rate or with employer paying transportation, employer frequently compensated for time


Well, the employer isn't compensated for anything. But, no, the employee is not frequently compensated for time unless they are working. For a example, a truck driver is compensated for time, because the driving is work. A lawyer who travels on behalf of a client is not compensated for the act of taking a plane or a train - because is not their work. They are compensated for working on a brief on the train, for example.
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Anonymous wrote:I was a fed, and we absolutely could not claim the travel time unless we were working during the commute (e.g., on plane or train) out of state/country. So, perhaps it varies by agency, but again, most professionals cannot claim travel time as work hours (professors, lawyers, doctors, etc.). It would not make sense to use a nine hour plane ride where the AP sleeps for 7.5 hours and watches a movie for 1.5 hours. If she were working she wouldn't be sleeping or watching a movie with her headphones on.


AP is not a “professional” in any way. While they get a stipend, it’s also not salary, and requirements for hire are more comparable to hourly workers. Hourly workers ARE paid for travel.

My BIL has a security clearance, military-provided training and makes 100-400k depending on how much overtime he chooses to work, but is considered blue collar and has an hourly pay rate due to the type of work. Commute time to the main office is never too paid, but he hardly goes there. He has his work truck and tools at home with him, calls the office in the morning for the day’s assignment and drives to the site, or he grabs his bag to go to the airport. From the moment he starts driving until he gets to the site, he gets paid. Most of his assignments are domestic and close enough to drive (under 5 hours), but he does fly both domestically and internationally. Those trips are usually 10+ days. Travel, food and travel time are paid, work hours are paid, and he has an extra amount he’s paid for every overnight.

Maybe you need a different career?
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Anonymous wrote:I was a fed, and we absolutely could not claim the travel time unless we were working during the commute (e.g., on plane or train) out of state/country. So, perhaps it varies by agency, but again, most professionals cannot claim travel time as work hours (professors, lawyers, doctors, etc.). It would not make sense to use a nine hour plane ride where the AP sleeps for 7.5 hours and watches a movie for 1.5 hours. If she were working she wouldn't be sleeping or watching a movie with her headphones on.


AP is not a “professional” in any way. While they get a stipend, it’s also not salary, and requirements for hire are more comparable to hourly workers. Hourly workers ARE paid for travel.

My BIL has a security clearance, military-provided training and makes 100-400k depending on how much overtime he chooses to work, but is considered blue collar and has an hourly pay rate due to the type of work. Commute time to the main office is never too paid, but he hardly goes there. He has his work truck and tools at home with him, calls the office in the morning for the day’s assignment and drives to the site, or he grabs his bag to go to the airport. From the moment he starts driving until he gets to the site, he gets paid. Most of his assignments are domestic and close enough to drive (under 5 hours), but he does fly both domestically and internationally. Those trips are usually 10+ days. Travel, food and travel time are paid, work hours are paid, and he has an extra amount he’s paid for every overnight.

Maybe you need a different career?


Np - maybe you need to realize that your bill’s situation is highly unusual?
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And, no, hourly employees do not generally get to bill time for travel. Mileage and per diem yes, but travelling out of state to work a convention? Absolutely cannot claim air or drive time as working hours. You would bankrupt universities and non-profits if this were true.
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Anonymous wrote:And, no, hourly employees do not generally get to bill time for travel. Mileage and per diem yes, but travelling out of state to work a convention? Absolutely cannot claim air or drive time as working hours. You would bankrupt universities and non-profits if this were true.


It depends on your contract. Driving a commute, not but outside normal, yes, especially hourly. Salary is a bit different and it depends the culture. My spouse can flex days with travel time. Not everyone works at universities or nonprofits. You have a very narrow view of the world.

AP is working and helping with the kids during travel. She isn't taking her own car.
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Anonymous wrote:I was a fed, and we absolutely could not claim the travel time unless we were working during the commute (e.g., on plane or train) out of state/country. So, perhaps it varies by agency, but again, most professionals cannot claim travel time as work hours (professors, lawyers, doctors, etc.). It would not make sense to use a nine hour plane ride where the AP sleeps for 7.5 hours and watches a movie for 1.5 hours. If she were working she wouldn't be sleeping or watching a movie with her headphones on.


AP is not a “professional” in any way. While they get a stipend, it’s also not salary, and requirements for hire are more comparable to hourly workers. Hourly workers ARE paid for travel.

My BIL has a security clearance, military-provided training and makes 100-400k depending on how much overtime he chooses to work, but is considered blue collar and has an hourly pay rate due to the type of work. Commute time to the main office is never too paid, but he hardly goes there. He has his work truck and tools at home with him, calls the office in the morning for the day’s assignment and drives to the site, or he grabs his bag to go to the airport. From the moment he starts driving until he gets to the site, he gets paid. Most of his assignments are domestic and close enough to drive (under 5 hours), but he does fly both domestically and internationally. Those trips are usually 10+ days. Travel, food and travel time are paid, work hours are paid, and he has an extra amount he’s paid for every overnight.

Maybe you need a different career?


Np - maybe you need to realize that your bill’s situation is highly unusual?


That's normal. Not sure what world you live in that you don't feel you should pay someone for their time. There is a difference between a commute and travel.
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Anonymous wrote:I travel frequently for work and have thus far always brought infant now toddler. I screen for au pairs who like to travel and put it in our handbook. I have taken au pairs to Europe, Asia, and random boring to gritty US cities. If AP doesn’t want to for all or part of the trip, she has to use her vacation time (it’s never happened). Our AP gets every evening and weekend off, but works until 4:00 on Friday. I don’t feel bad if she’s “stuck in Rehoboth or Rome or Tokyo or Kansas City. A an AP that is really in it for the cultural exchange should be able to entertain herself for the odd weekend away.


That is really crummy.


Yeah, who wants to go to Rome or Tokyo? The horror! You actually were up front about your needs with the AP upfront, she agreed to them, and then you have the audacity to take her to Europe??? True Cruella Daville stuff, this is.


Is the airport free to explore Tokyo and Rome on her own? No. I went to Australia for 2 weeks with a family and literally never left the hotel once. On a plane with a screaming baby while my MB sat in business and took ambien. Working 24/7. Sharing a room with the kids. Being on call 24/7. Yeah. There’s lots of reasons aupairs and nannies don’t wanT to travel with families!!


I am sorry for your clearly traumatic experience - but it is certainly not universal. I pay for a separate hotel room or bedroom for my AP because she is working on these trips. She generally works her same schedule 8-4 with evenings and weekends off (or something akin, mornings and evenings with afternoons off) with a 45 hour cap. Any more than that, we pay for a hotel babysitter. On the plane we sit together in coach, usually the baby is worn by me, with occasional relief here and there. Our AP has gone to anime conventions, concerts, lessons, sporting events, lots of shopping, etc., on her off time. She can hang with us - or go out on her own when she's off - we will drop her off or help her take public transportation. We pay for her food and any excursion she takes DD to. So, our APs are generally happy with this arrangement, because we tell them in advance and discuss frequently. We give one week of vacation that she picks and one week that we pick - and if she prefers to break it up with long weekends here and there, we don't care.


Travel time should be considered work time.


Well, my travel time (as with many professionals) is not considered work time, so I am unaware on the regulation you are relying on for that statement. That said, on the days that we do travel, she is never alone with DD, and is only called into action if needed. Again, sorry for your trauma: your damage has clearly made you bitter and jaded about the AP program. We all wish you had never been an AP.


I'm a working professional and my travel time is considered work time. It it weren't, I wouldn't get reimbursed for meals.

If my job requires me to fly or drive somewhere other than my daily home office, I'm on their clock. Not mine.


I call BS on this one. Commuting time is NOT on a professional clock. For example, lawyers can only ethically for spending time doing legal work. They cannot bill you for the time they spend in traffic or on a plane. They can ask you to reimburse expenses - but they do not get paid for travel time.


Commuting= time to and from the typical workspace, not compensated as most employees commute
Travel time= time spent traveling to a different, farther work space, usually temporary, almost always compensated at either a mileage rate or with employer paying transportation, employer frequently compensated for time


Well, the employer isn't compensated for anything. But, no, the employee is not frequently compensated for time unless they are working. For a example, a truck driver is compensated for time, because the driving is work. A lawyer who travels on behalf of a client is not compensated for the act of taking a plane or a train - because is not their work. They are compensated for working on a brief on the train, for example.


And attorney is absolutely compensated for travel for a client. They are on billable hours its a job. If its for training or a conference, no but that's a choice.
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Anonymous wrote:I travel frequently for work and have thus far always brought infant now toddler. I screen for au pairs who like to travel and put it in our handbook. I have taken au pairs to Europe, Asia, and random boring to gritty US cities. If AP doesn’t want to for all or part of the trip, she has to use her vacation time (it’s never happened). Our AP gets every evening and weekend off, but works until 4:00 on Friday. I don’t feel bad if she’s “stuck in Rehoboth or Rome or Tokyo or Kansas City. A an AP that is really in it for the cultural exchange should be able to entertain herself for the odd weekend away.


That is really crummy.


Yeah, who wants to go to Rome or Tokyo? The horror! You actually were up front about your needs with the AP upfront, she agreed to them, and then you have the audacity to take her to Europe??? True Cruella Daville stuff, this is.


Is the airport free to explore Tokyo and Rome on her own? No. I went to Australia for 2 weeks with a family and literally never left the hotel once. On a plane with a screaming baby while my MB sat in business and took ambien. Working 24/7. Sharing a room with the kids. Being on call 24/7. Yeah. There’s lots of reasons aupairs and nannies don’t wanT to travel with families!!


I am sorry for your clearly traumatic experience - but it is certainly not universal. I pay for a separate hotel room or bedroom for my AP because she is working on these trips. She generally works her same schedule 8-4 with evenings and weekends off (or something akin, mornings and evenings with afternoons off) with a 45 hour cap. Any more than that, we pay for a hotel babysitter. On the plane we sit together in coach, usually the baby is worn by me, with occasional relief here and there. Our AP has gone to anime conventions, concerts, lessons, sporting events, lots of shopping, etc., on her off time. She can hang with us - or go out on her own when she's off - we will drop her off or help her take public transportation. We pay for her food and any excursion she takes DD to. So, our APs are generally happy with this arrangement, because we tell them in advance and discuss frequently. We give one week of vacation that she picks and one week that we pick - and if she prefers to break it up with long weekends here and there, we don't care.


Travel time should be considered work time.


Well, my travel time (as with many professionals) is not considered work time, so I am unaware on the regulation you are relying on for that statement. That said, on the days that we do travel, she is never alone with DD, and is only called into action if needed. Again, sorry for your trauma: your damage has clearly made you bitter and jaded about the AP program. We all wish you had never been an AP.


I'm a working professional and my travel time is considered work time. It it weren't, I wouldn't get reimbursed for meals.

If my job requires me to fly or drive somewhere other than my daily home office, I'm on their clock. Not mine.


I call BS on this one. Commuting time is NOT on a professional clock. For example, lawyers can only ethically for spending time doing legal work. They cannot bill you for the time they spend in traffic or on a plane. They can ask you to reimburse expenses - but they do not get paid for travel time.


Commuting= time to and from the typical workspace, not compensated as most employees commute
Travel time= time spent traveling to a different, farther work space, usually temporary, almost always compensated at either a mileage rate or with employer paying transportation, employer frequently compensated for time


Well, the employer isn't compensated for anything. But, no, the employee is not frequently compensated for time unless they are working. For a example, a truck driver is compensated for time, because the driving is work. A lawyer who travels on behalf of a client is not compensated for the act of taking a plane or a train - because is not their work. They are compensated for working on a brief on the train, for example.


And attorney is absolutely compensated for travel for a client. They are on billable hours its a job. If its for training or a conference, no but that's a choice.


NOPE! Actual attorney: we have ethical rules that do not allow for billing for travel time.
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