DH, 50, lost out on another job, feeling depressed and hopeless

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I'd love to go back to work, but can't do it right now. I was a waitress in high school and hated it! I'd rather clean restrooms -- really! I appreciate the encouragement, but you younger women have no idea how discriminated against 50-plus women are, especially SAHMs with no recent work experience. I applied for a part-time job as a librarian at my kids' school, and was turned down because I had no shelving experience! I have an Ivy degree and a master's degree in literature, but no, I have not shelved books before!

I don't get why you can't do it right now. You are getting older, not younger, so the discrimination is going to get worse. You need to go out there and get a job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I'd love to go back to work, but can't do it right now. I was a waitress in high school and hated it! I'd rather clean restrooms -- really! I appreciate the encouragement, but you younger women have no idea how discriminated against 50-plus women are, especially SAHMs with no recent work experience. I applied for a part-time job as a librarian at my kids' school, and was turned down because I had no shelving experience! I have an Ivy degree and a master's degree in literature, but no, I have not shelved books before!

I don't get why you can't do it right now. You are getting older, not younger, so the discrimination is going to get worse. You need to go out there and get a job.


I am not the op or pp but this coming from someone who has never been there is asking for karma to kick you in the ass.
Anonymous
I'm not the PP either, but why can't you go back to work??!!!!! Work anywhere. Really. Work a minimum wage job. Get up each morning and spend the entire eight hour day looking for jobs. Even restaurants will take you with no experience or work history. I had no experience at a restaurant and they hired me in my late 20's. Don't use your age as an excuse. You could also do after school care, work at a daycare, walk dogs, do elder care, etc...stop making excuses.
Anonymous
OP: I know you are settled in here, but it is very expensive here. If your kids are in school (at age 50?) and you cannot afford to live here, that still equals you cannot afford to live here. Age discrimination IS real, but you are turning down the opportunites that you DO have, such as your DH could work overseas if he needed to. As far as shelving books, that is an easy job that will go to someone with connections at the school. I do agree that waitressing is out. You are too old. You should be thinking about your retirement, not hanging on here. I feel you --we are in the same position. But our house is paid down and the kids go to public school. Then they can borrow for state school, if needed, so we are staying put.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Of course there is hope!
My DH is 51 and just found a job with difficulty after nearly two years.

He had applied to dozens of positions, most of which did not contact him: probably in part because he has an unusual background and is overqualified, probably also due to hiring freezes/reticence. He made the shortlist for those who did, but was never chosen until a few month ago. He also could not use his network, which is mainly in Europe.

I may add that he looks quite ten years younger than his age, and that I do not think appearance is the direct issue here. Rather, in these difficult economic times where jobs are scarce, an experienced person is perhaps not as desirable as before. People glance at the resume and think: "Yikes! Too expensive. Let's get the job done a little more shoddily by a junior".

It was a painful time, financially, psychologically, on all fronts. Our lives where put on hold for 18 months and I became quite paranoid about weekly expenses, let alone making any kind of long-range plans. I cannot work in this country, so we just conserved money as much as we could, and felt very lucky that we had a bit put by. Uncertainty plays with your mind to an unholy degree!
I completely sympathize with the strain it puts on your family and your marriage. Even though I had input on DH's cover letters and all professional correspondance, I had to walk on eggshells sometimes because the pressure on him was just too great. This is a person who used to work in the ICU! Nerves of steel. But a year and a half sans job will tell on anyone...

Your DH is well-regarded. He has a network that can scout for posts and recommend him. Above all, the more interviews he has, the more confident and in control he will appear. My DH made use of a very practical book called Landing the Job You Want: How to Have the Best Job Interview of Your Life
http://www.amazon.com/Landing-Job-You-Want-Interview/dp/0609804081
He told me it was extremely useful and changed the way he described his past experience during interviews. Borrow it from the library.

You DH does not need to network like crazy if he feels it is not helpful right now. On the other hand keeping up contacts and seeing old business associates will help him stay alert to changes in his field and make him feel he's still part of his industry.

Cut out all unnecessary expense. Are you sure the therapist is working out for him? On the other hand, regular exercise like a morning jog is a great mood booster. Sex is great too, even though you might not be in the mood if he's grumpy

Big hug to both of you! Keep at it.
I'm sure it will work out.




NP here: I'm also feeling a bit worried and anxious about my job search, and just wanted to let you know that it helps to see a kind and optimistic post like yours.
Anonymous
For your DH: I would network a lot through Linkedn and also there are a lot of meetups in various fields and topics that he can choose. Yuo will meet lots of people there and also increase your skills.

For you ; I would say, please let go fo ego and see what is more important fro your family. Discrimination is everywhere - wether you are 50 or 20, white or colored. You have to focus on your important goals and let your work speak for you.

I can feel your pain as we wnt througha similar financial drought recently. It was amazing the way company would tell you that you have this job etc and then not to hear another word from them. But what I learnt from my DH was still be graciuos and thank them for their time and let them know if anything changes you would like to hear from them. "Keep the doors open".

God bless!
Anonymous
OP sounds incredibly lazy and full of excuses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: OP sounds incredibly lazy and full of excuses.


People lay off the OP, she is going through a hard time here. My dh was laid off 5 years ago from his job and applied at hundreds of jobs, networked and just finally gave up. He couldn't even get a retail job even though he applied at a lot of those. And he had to make enough to pay for childcare. It is not easy out there. Go over to older kids and teenagers and see how the teens can't get summer jobs either. We finally decided that my dh would be a SAHD until the kids are in school. Our youngest goes to K in the Fall, and he is going to give this job search another good try.
scotcitz
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Was there ever an update on the situation from OP? I can emphasize with trying to help an older partner with a search.
Anonymous
One good resource for older job hunters is 40Plus, a networking org for professionals over 40. They have a Monday speaker series and networking.
Anonymous
change the resume to make his age harder to determine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My husband in very low paying go nowhere job...networking fruitless...I too feel hopeless, and when I make suggestions he just storms off...this has been going on for 10 years...
I often push it to the back of my mind...denial.


what do you do to earn money for the family?


Really, PP, just really...[/quote]

why do you say this. is was my first thought as well. OP: do you work?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is so weird that we are all discussing this man's professional life in detail, but we are not even allowed to ask why the OP doesn't work.

It's not an insult. If you are very concerned, why not pick up a part time job? Single-handedly providing for a family can be very stressful. Maybe your DH would appreciate the effort you are making instead of always trying to work on him.

You said you were a SAHM for a while, but you could probably get a PT retail job or admin. job.



Because OP's question is only tangentially related to family income. She's looking for ways to help husband land a new job because he's getting depressed and feeling hopeless about his prospects after several promising attempts failed to result in getting hired. If OP could add something to the family income, of course that would be nice but it wouldn't address the real issue, which is her husband's sense of value in the workplace, ambition, age, professional identity, career expectations. In other words, this post isn't about money.
Anonymous
I know this is an old post, but it helped reading through it this morning. My DH is 30, but also struggling to find work. He's in a niche field, his contract ended and he's in that difficult spot of having too much experience/education for entry level and not enough for the next step up (5 years of experience when all the positions want 7 years, but he's over-qualified and competing against cheaper just-graduated applicants for the next level down). He's networked like crazy and like OP's husband has made it through several rounds for several positions, but they've gone with other, slightly less qualified people each time.

It's been hard. He's depressed. I work FT, but don't make enough to keep us afloat on my own. He's even been looking at retail and food service and has managed to bring in just enough to keep our lights on and the rent paid. We're out of savings, we've cut back everywhere we can, and we're stressed. He feels like a loser and I'm not sure how to help him. He's cut his salary requirements and started looking at jobs outside his niche too. Nothing has popped.

We're looking at jobs everywhere, not just DC. But the industry he's in is limited, so even that isn't helping much. And we can't afford to move if there is no relocation assistance (which isn't usually offered at his level). It's tough. It sucks. I hate seeing him so down.
Anonymous
My Dh is also looking for a job and is 30. He was a government contractor and laid off at the end of last year. Networking has not worked for my husband. He networks like crazy, going to several meetup and professional events every week. I hope the job market improves this year.
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