Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Ok, for some perspective, the minimum age for marriage in the US-State of Delaware in year 1880 was 7 and 10 in most of the other states.
Now, authentic Hadith reports do show us that the prophet Muhammad saw did marry Aisha at the age of 6, but they also show the consummation of the marriage was completed when she was 9 years old. As a Muslim, I have no shame in sharing this. The West says, he married a child, don't they? And some Muslims when they are told this get embarrassed, their faces become red, and they don't know how to answer, they start stuttering. Did you know that American reformers were shocked to discover that the laws of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in Delaware, the age of consent was only seven? Now during the Prophet saw's time it was a NORM to be married at a young age. This is why the people of Quraish and other Arabian tribes at Prophet's time found absolutely no fault in their marriage. They detested Islam, they did everything to belittle the Prophet, tried to prevent Islam from spreading and even attempted to kill the Prophet saw ! However, they raised no objection to the marriage of the Prophet saw to Aisha since at those times such a thing was not considered 'immoral'. It ought also be noted that Aisha was engaged to Jubayr before Prophet Muhammed saw. This indicates the age of marriage and engagement in Prophet' saw's time. However, the engagement was later nullified by Jubayr's parents due to Abu Bakr (Aisha's dad) embracing Islam.Thus the history demonstrates that the age of the marriage was lower and relative to olden times, the marriage of the Prophet was not abnormal and there was nothing immoral about it. It was a norm at biblical times to be wedded at puberty or earlier, the age of consent one century ago in a 'modern country' was as low as 10 or 12, even 7 in Delaware! Even in our times, in certain societies, the age of consent is as low as 12 or 13. In the light of historical evidences, the marriage cannot be criticized.
ALSO it is important to know:
Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet saw , and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into "women", then they get married off. Prophet Muhammad's saw marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!So to call Prophet Muhammad saw a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
A lot of the things we do today are not right in the eyes of many. Our "standards" today mean nothing to what took place 1400 years ago. Today, anyone under 18 years old is considered a "child", a baby still under his mommy's and daddy's care. Back then on the other hand, people who reached the age of 18 were considered wise and very mature.
An English Historian stated, "At that age 'A'ishah was fully developed, through fast development which was present amongst the Arab women of the time and where they would start to age during the late twenties. But this marriage has troubled many people about Muhammad. This is because they look upon the marriage as if it is in the present day, not taking into account the context of this marriage and that it was an accepted event. They do not consider that this trend is still present in Europe and Asia, until this very day. This was common in Spain and Portugal until recent years. Even in these times it is not uncommon. In some mountainous areas in the United States of America, it still exists.
I think you may be mistaken about this, Sister. The hadith are not always reliable. Check out www.supremeislamiccouncil.com
Anonymous wrote:
I think everybody should have to read the Quran (and the New Testament and key parts of the Old Testament). It's a very difficult task, though, because context is indeed vital, and this history is critical for interpreting various revelations in the Quran.
Many Quranic revelations occurred as a result of different events in the life of Mohammed and the growing Muslim community. Within Mohammed's own lifetime, Islam went from being the religion of a small group of his followers to a religion that conquered other cities and towns. This is reflected in the changing nature of the revelations. Islam gradually became more confident about challenging internal dissent and outsiders, and the later revelations are very different from the early revelations. Changes in Mohammed's own life were also accompanied by revelations (for example his first wife died and he subsequently took on additional wives, eventually going beyond the 4 wives allowed other Muslim men--historians often argue that these additional marriages were to build alliances). Thus, it's possible to pull from different parts of the Quran to support very, very different interpretations of issues.
However, I think asking an Imam is going to result in interpretations that are just as biased as Muslima's posts here. Similarly, "Sheikh Wikipedia" will often lead you to the rabid anti-Muslim posters. There are some thoughtful exegesis via Google and books, but it would take a whole lot of work, and a whole lot of reading, to sort the wheat from the chaff. It's not for the faint of heart!
Anonymous wrote:As a Muslim, I believe in the 6 articles of faith in Islam:
4. Belief in The Prophets of God
Muslims must believe in all the Messengers and Prophets of God such as Adam, Noah, Moses, Solomon, Jesus and Muhammad saw who were human beings endowed with His Revelations and appointed by God to teach mankind how to worship and obey Allah.
This is impossible. It is like saying "I believe when I turn on the light switch the light comes on but I also believe when I turn on the light switch the light goes off too." It is nonsense. The Revelations of Jesus and the Revelations of Muhammad contradict one another, so either a) one is true and one is false or b) both are false. They both cannot be true.
from http://www.faithfacts.org/world-religions-and-theology/christianity-vs.-islam
Islam...denies that Jesus died on the cross at all (Sura 4:157)—this in spite of overwhelming evidence both from the Bible and from historical sources outside the Bible. It denies that Jesus conquered death by his bodily resurrection—an historical event acknowledged by rigorous critical scholarship (www.faithfacts.org/easter.html). Islam must deny these things because the religion is based on the idea that you can earn your way to heaven.
Christianity teaches that our salvation is a free gift through faith alone in Jesus Christ—and specifically not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4:1-3; Titus 3:5-7; 1 Corinthians 1:29). Islam teaches that one gains entrance into heaven by your works in addition to faith (but not faith in Christ). These are clearly opposing positions.
So you have a dilemma. You must study and determine which one is true, and guess which one will chop off your head if you
decide a certain way? Guess which one?
I personally believe Islam is nothing more than the cult of Muhammad, who was a murderer http://faithfreedom.org/challenge/massmurderer.htm and a pedophile.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Pedophile:Bukhari 58:236 Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
This is outrageous and disgusting. It is similar wicked behavior of Joseph Smith who formed the cult of Mormonism.
Both Muhammad and Joseph "Con-man" Smith were sons of their father Satan. They are tares among the wheat.
An English Historian stated, "At that age 'A'ishah was fully developed, through fast development which was present amongst the Arab women of the time and where they would start to age during the late twenties. But this marriage has troubled many people about Muhammad. This is because they look upon the marriage as if it is in the present day, not taking into account the context of this marriage and that it was an accepted event. They do not consider that this trend is still present in Europe and Asia, until this very day. This was common in Spain and Portugal until recent years. Even in these times it is not uncommon. In some mountainous areas in the United States of America, it still exists.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:There are many people who do not have the true knowledge to make the right estimations regarding Islam and Muslims because of their ignorance. They have no idea of the love that 1.6 billion Muslims have for Allah and his messenger. So how can we blame them and hold them responsible for their ignorance?
As a Muslim woman living in America, I have seen it & heard it all, so I am totally desensitized to the insults directly at me or Islam. As far as people insulting the Prophet Muhammad saw & Islam, well People physically assaulted him during his life, people threw stones at him, they threw dirty intestines on him whilst he was praying, they threw their dirty garbage on him, they abused him, they killed his loved ones, poisoned his food, ridiculed him, laughed at him.However, although they hurt him, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) looked beyond his own wounds and forgave them, replying when asked whether to destroy them‘No, do not destroy them, for I hope that Allah will bring out of their offspring people who worship Him alone without associating any partner with Him in worship." What a beautiful excellent response, look at the humiliy, the control. This is the man's values that I follow, and he taught me better than that.
The honor of our messenger saw, the nobility, the respect, the love of our messenger, the status of our messenger saw is not something we give him; it's not something that comes from human beings. It came from the sky. It came from Allah. Nobody on the earth can take it away.. The Quran has come from the sky. People can burn copies of it, people can make fun of it, people can make pieces of it; it will not insult the Quran; because the Quran is in Laohe Mahfudh ( the preserved tablet in the seventh heaven,). It can not be insulted. It is above these insults.
Allah azzawajal took the most insulting things that were said about prophet saw and gave the most intellectual responses in the Quran. This is our religion. Two thirds of the Quran is a conversation with the people who didn’t even believe in it. What was prophet saw doing? Reciting it to people who don’t even believe. And they were insulting it back, criticizing it back; and there was a discussion happening!
May Allah educate ourselves, our family, our entire Ummah, the way it suppose to be educated. May Allah lift the Ummah from the darkness that it suffers from. May Allah make us of those who can speak the word of truth courageously and be able to engage with each other in civil, respectful disagreement when the time comes. And may Allah make us of those who truly represent the beauty of this Deen to their neighbors and to the world around us.
Ma Salaama (Peace) !
For someone that really just doesn't understand, why do the Shiites and Sunnis keep killing each other?
Short answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KLvjs7Yrtw
I would reframe your question, Sunnis and Shias are not killing each other, a small minority of Sunnis and Shias are. First, let's go back to the basics. Over 90% of the world's Muslim's population is Sunni and the rest Shia. However, Shia Muslims are the majority in some countries such as Iran, Iraq, and more recently, Lebanon.The split between Sunni and Shia goes back to the death of the Prophet Muhammed saw in 632 CE. It was about the succession. Some Muslims thought the leader of Islam should be elected from among the learned and devout and whoever was the most learned man should be the Muslim Leader. They chose Abu Bakr, a close friend and companion of the Prophet saw, who became first Caliph, secular leader of the Islamic nation. His followers claimed the title of "Sunni," or followers of the tradition of the Prophet.
Other Muslims believed in a hereditary solution and chose to follow Ali, the Prophet's cousin and son-in-law. They became known as Shia, or party of Ali, or people of the Prophet's household. Their leaders were known as Imams . This dynastic approach has some similarities with the Christian ideas of the divine right of kings and the apostolic succession in the Catholic and Anglican churches, and it continues to characterise Shia practice today. It is no longer dynastic but it does confer a sort-of infallibility on its leaders. The schism is therefore between the Sunni belief that Islam confers no hereditary privilege or sainthood, and the Shia belief that its leaders are infallible, without sin, appointed by God. From the beginning, the schism had a political rather than religious nature.
The conflict now brewing between certain (key work=certain) Sunni and Shia political factions in the Middle East today has little or nothing to do with religious differences and everything to do with modern identity politics. While the Sunni Ottoman Empire and Shia Safavid Empire experienced their share of conflict, they also lived peaceably alongside one another for hundreds of years, even considering it shameful to engage in conflict with one another as Muslim powers. For every sectarian terrorist group or militia, there are countless ordinary Shia and Sunni Muslims around the world who have risked their lives to protect their co-religionists as well as the religious minorities within their societies. For every story which discards the nuances of todays' conflicts and casts them as part of a narrative of spiralling sectarian violence, there are others which point resolutely in the opposite direction. The "Shia Crescent" that runs from Iran, through Assad’s regime in Damascus to Hizbullah in Lebanon was once praised by Sunni figures. But the revolutions in the region have pitted Shia governments against Sunni Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who have supported their co-religionists with cash. This is strengthening Sunni assertiveness and making the Shia feel more threatened than usual. In most cases, though, members of the two groups still live harmoniously together.
Have the leaders of the Sunni and Shia tried to stop this? What have they done to prevent the violence?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm the person you're responding to, but I'm not 23:35. I'm sorry, but a lot of this glosses over what's in the Quran and also doesn't reflect historical reality. Who do you think was selling black slaves to the European slave traders? It was Muslims selling African polytheists to the European Christians. You haven't even attempted to deny that the Quran condones taking non-Muslim (kaafir) prisoners as slaves, instead you've offered some fairly unconvincing arguments about how slave-taking is limited (ask West African polytheists how this worked out for them a few centuries ago). As for your point about how Islam didn't invent slavery, the pity of it all is that a document that purports to be God's direct word to humanity actually condones slavery.
PS. I would encourage everybody here to seek out additional opinions, by reading the relevant passages of the Quran for yourself and by googling. The way to increase your own understanding is not to accept my opinion, or to accept Muslima's carefully curated selection of favorable apologetics. I am pretty confident, however, that when you read the actual passages of the Quran (in translation, but for most of you this can't be avoided) you will see through some of the cut-and-pastes that Muslima has provided.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:
The issue is, who defines what is "evil" and "unjust"? There is a great deal of latitude for interpretation here, obviously.
A crucial point for the current ISIS crisis is that Muslims are required to live under Muslim law, i.e. with a Muslim government and courts to enforce sharia law, with an Islamic banking system, et cetera. In a Muslim state, sharia rules apply to everybody, including dhimmi (non-Muslims). Therefore, teachers can define "evil" to include any secular (read: religiously tolerant) government. ISIS wants a "caliphate" to impose sharia law on everybody within the Islamic state's borders, because secular governmental structures are "evil."
False!One of the fundamental teachings of Islam is that non-Muslims are guaranteed freedom to practise their religions and customs without any restriction as long as non-Muslims reciprocate by not being insensitive to the Muslim community. The Constitution, too, categorically restricts Most Islamic laws to Muslims. And one more time, Muslims are not required to live under sharia law, they are required to follow the law of the land they live in. In Islam obedience to the law of the land is a religious duty. The Qur'an commands Muslims to remain faithful to not only Allah and the Prophet Muhammad (saw), but also the authority they live under.
Also, the Quran is quite clear that you can't kill your prisoners of war, but you can certainly make slaves out of your non-Muslim prisoners. This is applies equally tor capturing non-Muslim women and children. If your slaves convert to Islam, you must free them. It strikes me that Muslima is gilding the lily when she calls this "asylum" in her post above.
PP again. I should add, I believe it's permissible for Muslims to sleep with female captives/prisoners of war, in addition to with their wives. Mohammed did this.
When Islam was reveled to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), slavery was a worldwide common social phenomenon; it was much older than Islam. Slavery was deeply rooted in every society to the extent that it was impossible to imagine a civilized society without slaves. In spite of this social fact, Islam was the first religion to recognize slavery as a social illness that needed to be addressed. Since slavery was deeply rooted in the society, Islam did not abolish it at once. Rather, Islam treated slavery in the same manner it treated other social illnesses. Islam followed the same methodology of gradual elimination in dealing with this social disease as it did with other social illnesses, for example: the prohibition of alcohol in three steps.
Concerning having slave women, this was a practice necessitated by the condition in which early Muslims found themselves vis-a-vis non-Muslims, as both parties engaged in wars. Slave women or milk al-yameen are referred to in the Qur'an as “Those whom your right hand possess” or “ma malakat aymanukum”; they are those taken as captives during conquests and subsequently became slaves, or those who were descendants of slaves. Thus, it was a war custom in the past to take men and women as captives and then turn them into slaves. Islam did not initiate it, rather, it was something in practice long ago before the advent of Islam. And when Islam came, it tried to eradicate this practice, bit by bit. So it first restricted it to the reciprocal practice of war, in the sense that Muslims took war captives just as the enemies did with Muslims.
But as it aimed at putting an end to such issue, Islam laid down rules which would eventually lead to eradicating the practice. So it allowed Muslims to have intercourse with slave women taken as captives of just and legitimate wars. In so doing, the woman would automatically become free if she got pregnant. What's more, her child would also become free. Not only that, Islam also ordered a Muslim to treat the slave woman in every respect as if she were his wife. She should be well fed, clothed and given due protection. In the family environment, she had the opportunity to learn about Islam and was free to accept it or reject it. She also had the opportunity to earn her freedom for she could be ransomed.
Islam restored dignity to slaves and enhanced their social status. It made no distinction between a slave or a free man, and all were treated with equality which was unheard of in that society 1400 years ago. It was this fact that always attracted slaves to Islam. It is painful to see that those who never cease to be vociferous in their unjust criticism of Islam should take no notice of this principle of equality, when even in this enlightened age there are countries where laws are made discriminating against the vast majority of population, to keep them in practical servitude. This dignity restored to slaves was documented even by Non-Muslims throughout history:
P. L Riviere writes:
"A master was enjoined to make his slave share the bounties he received from God. It must be recognised that, in this respect, the Islamic teaching acknowledged such a respect for human personality and showed a sense of equality which is searched for in vain in ancient civilization"
Source: Riviere P.L., Revue Bleaue (June 1939).
And not only in ancient civilisations; even in the modern Christian civilisation the ingrained belief of racial supremacy is still manifesting itself every day. A. J. Toynbee says in Civilization on Trial:
"The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue..." Then he comments that "in this perilous matter of race feeling it can hardly be denied that (the triumph of English-speaking peoples) has been a misfortune."
Source: Toynbee, A.J., Civilization on Trial (New York, 1948), p. 205.
Napoleon Bonaparte is recorded as saying about the condition of slaves in Muslim countries:
"The slave inherits his master's property and marries his daughter. The majority of the Pashas had been slaves. Many of the grand viziers, all the Mamelukes, Ali Ben Mourad Beg, had been slaves. They began their lives by performing the most menial services in the houses of their masters and were subsequently raised in status for their merit or by favour. In the West, on the contrary, the slave has always been below the position of the domestic servants; he occupies the lowest rug. The Romans emancipated their slaves, but the emancipated were never considered as equal to the free-born. The ideas of the East and West are so different that it took a long time to make the Egyptians understand that all the army was not composed of slaves belonging to the Sultan al-Kabir."
Source: Cherfils, Bonaparte et l'Islam (Paris, 1914)
Annemarie Schimmel writes:
"The entire history of Islam proves that slaves could occupy any office, and many former military slaves, usually recruited from among the Central Asian Turks, became military leaders and often even rulers as in eastern Iran, India (the Slave Dynasty of Delhi), and medieval Egypt (the Mamluks). “
Source: "Islam: An Introduction", p. 67
Islam recognises no distinction of race or colour, black or white, citizens or soldiers, rulers or subjects; they are perfectly equal, not in theory only, but in practice. The first mu'azzin (herald of the prayer call) of Islam, a devoted adherent of the Prophet and an esteemed disciple, was a slave. The Qur'an lays down the measure of superiority in verse 13 of chapter 49. It is addressed to mankind, and preaches the natural brotherhood of man without distinction of tribe, clan, gender, race or colour. It says:
“O you men! We have created you of a male and a female, and then We made you (into different) races and tribes so that you may know (and “recognise) each other. Surely the most honourable of you with Allah is the one who is most pious among you; surely Allah is All-Knowing and “Aware.” The Qur'an 49:13
it was a war custom in the past to take men and women as captives and then turn them into slaves. Islam did not initiate it, but it first restricted it to the reciprocal practice of war, in the sense that Muslims took war captives just as the enemies did with them. The texts of Islam took a strong stance against this. It says in a hadeeth qudsi: “Allaah, may He be exalted, said: ‘There are three whose opponent I will be on the Day of Resurrection, and whomever I oppose, I will defeat … A man who sold a free man and consumed his price.’” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2227). It is worth pointing out that you do not find any text in the Qur’aan or Sunnah which enjoins taking others as slaves, whereas there are dozens of texts in the Qur’aan and the ahaadeeth of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which call for manumitting slaves and freeing them. Islam limited the sources of slaves that existed before the beginning of the Prophet’s mission to one way only: enslavement through war which was imposed on kaafir prisoners-of-war.
I'm the person you're responding to, but I'm not 23:35. I'm sorry, but a lot of this glosses over what's in the Quran and also doesn't reflect historical reality. Who do you think was selling black slaves to the European slave traders? It was Muslims selling African polytheists to the European Christians. You haven't even attempted to deny that the Quran condones taking non-Muslim (kaafir) prisoners as slaves, instead you've offered some fairly unconvincing arguments about how slave-taking is limited (ask West African polytheists how this worked out for them a few centuries ago). As for your point about how Islam didn't invent slavery, the pity of it all is that a document that purports to be God's direct word to humanity actually condones slavery.
The issue is, who defines what is "evil" and "unjust"? There is a great deal of latitude for interpretation here, obviously.
A crucial point for the current ISIS crisis is that Muslims are required to live under Muslim law, i.e. with a Muslim government and courts to enforce sharia law, with an Islamic banking system, et cetera. In a Muslim state, sharia rules apply to everybody, including dhimmi (non-Muslims). Therefore, teachers can define "evil" to include any secular (read: religiously tolerant) government. ISIS wants a "caliphate" to impose sharia law on everybody within the Islamic state's borders, because secular governmental structures are "evil."
Also, the Quran is quite clear that you can't kill your prisoners of war, but you can certainly make slaves out of your non-Muslim prisoners. This is applies equally tor capturing non-Muslim women and children. If your slaves convert to Islam, you must free them. It strikes me that Muslima is gilding the lily when she calls this "asylum" in her post above.
PP again. I should add, I believe it's permissible for Muslims to sleep with female captives/prisoners of war, in addition to with their wives. Mohammed did this.
P. L Riviere writes:
"A master was enjoined to make his slave share the bounties he received from God. It must be recognised that, in this respect, the Islamic teaching acknowledged such a respect for human personality and showed a sense of equality which is searched for in vain in ancient civilization"
Source: Riviere P.L., Revue Bleaue (June 1939).
And not only in ancient civilisations; even in the modern Christian civilisation the ingrained belief of racial supremacy is still manifesting itself every day. A. J. Toynbee says in Civilization on Trial:
"The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue..." Then he comments that "in this perilous matter of race feeling it can hardly be denied that (the triumph of English-speaking peoples) has been a misfortune."
Source: Toynbee, A.J., Civilization on Trial (New York, 1948), p. 205.
Napoleon Bonaparte is recorded as saying about the condition of slaves in Muslim countries:
"The slave inherits his master's property and marries his daughter. The majority of the Pashas had been slaves. Many of the grand viziers, all the Mamelukes, Ali Ben Mourad Beg, had been slaves. They began their lives by performing the most menial services in the houses of their masters and were subsequently raised in status for their merit or by favour. In the West, on the contrary, the slave has always been below the position of the domestic servants; he occupies the lowest rug. The Romans emancipated their slaves, but the emancipated were never considered as equal to the free-born. The ideas of the East and West are so different that it took a long time to make the Egyptians understand that all the army was not composed of slaves belonging to the Sultan al-Kabir."
Source: Cherfils, Bonaparte et l'Islam (Paris, 1914)
Annemarie Schimmel writes:
"The entire history of Islam proves that slaves could occupy any office, and many former military slaves, usually recruited from among the Central Asian Turks, became military leaders and often even rulers as in eastern Iran, India (the Slave Dynasty of Delhi), and medieval Egypt (the Mamluks). “
Source: "Islam: An Introduction", p. 67
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:There are many people who do not have the true knowledge to make the right estimations regarding Islam and Muslims because of their ignorance. They have no idea of the love that 1.6 billion Muslims have for Allah and his messenger. So how can we blame them and hold them responsible for their ignorance?
As a Muslim woman living in America, I have seen it & heard it all, so I am totally desensitized to the insults directly at me or Islam. As far as people insulting the Prophet Muhammad saw & Islam, well People physically assaulted him during his life, people threw stones at him, they threw dirty intestines on him whilst he was praying, they threw their dirty garbage on him, they abused him, they killed his loved ones, poisoned his food, ridiculed him, laughed at him.However, although they hurt him, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) looked beyond his own wounds and forgave them, replying when asked whether to destroy them‘No, do not destroy them, for I hope that Allah will bring out of their offspring people who worship Him alone without associating any partner with Him in worship." What a beautiful excellent response, look at the humiliy, the control. This is the man's values that I follow, and he taught me better than that.
The honor of our messenger saw, the nobility, the respect, the love of our messenger, the status of our messenger saw is not something we give him; it's not something that comes from human beings. It came from the sky. It came from Allah. Nobody on the earth can take it away.. The Quran has come from the sky. People can burn copies of it, people can make fun of it, people can make pieces of it; it will not insult the Quran; because the Quran is in Laohe Mahfudh ( the preserved tablet in the seventh heaven,). It can not be insulted. It is above these insults.
Allah azzawajal took the most insulting things that were said about prophet saw and gave the most intellectual responses in the Quran. This is our religion. Two thirds of the Quran is a conversation with the people who didn’t even believe in it. What was prophet saw doing? Reciting it to people who don’t even believe. And they were insulting it back, criticizing it back; and there was a discussion happening!
May Allah educate ourselves, our family, our entire Ummah, the way it suppose to be educated. May Allah lift the Ummah from the darkness that it suffers from. May Allah make us of those who can speak the word of truth courageously and be able to engage with each other in civil, respectful disagreement when the time comes. And may Allah make us of those who truly represent the beauty of this Deen to their neighbors and to the world around us.
Ma Salaama (Peace) !
For someone that really just doesn't understand, why do the Shiites and Sunnis keep killing each other?