where are the Muslims pretending there is no problem? |
For someone that really just doesn't understand, why do the Shiites and Sunnis keep killing each other? |
you could say this about radical Christians and Jews. Remember a radical Jew assassinated Yitzhak Rabin. |
Short answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KLvjs7Yrtw I would reframe your question, Sunnis and Shias are not killing each other, a small minority of Sunnis and Shias are. First, let's go back to the basics. Over 90% of the world's Muslim's population is Sunni and the rest Shia. However, Shia Muslims are the majority in some countries such as Iran, Iraq, and more recently, Lebanon.The split between Sunni and Shia goes back to the death of the Prophet Muhammed saw in 632 CE. It was about the succession. Some Muslims thought the leader of Islam should be elected from among the learned and devout and whoever was the most learned man should be the Muslim Leader. They chose Abu Bakr, a close friend and companion of the Prophet saw, who became first Caliph, secular leader of the Islamic nation. His followers claimed the title of "Sunni," or followers of the tradition of the Prophet. Other Muslims believed in a hereditary solution and chose to follow Ali, the Prophet's cousin and son-in-law. They became known as Shia, or party of Ali, or people of the Prophet's household. Their leaders were known as Imams . This dynastic approach has some similarities with the Christian ideas of the divine right of kings and the apostolic succession in the Catholic and Anglican churches, and it continues to characterise Shia practice today. It is no longer dynastic but it does confer a sort-of infallibility on its leaders. The schism is therefore between the Sunni belief that Islam confers no hereditary privilege or sainthood, and the Shia belief that its leaders are infallible, without sin, appointed by God. From the beginning, the schism had a political rather than religious nature. The conflict now brewing between certain (key work=certain) Sunni and Shia political factions in the Middle East today has little or nothing to do with religious differences and everything to do with modern identity politics. While the Sunni Ottoman Empire and Shia Safavid Empire experienced their share of conflict, they also lived peaceably alongside one another for hundreds of years, even considering it shameful to engage in conflict with one another as Muslim powers. For every sectarian terrorist group or militia, there are countless ordinary Shia and Sunni Muslims around the world who have risked their lives to protect their co-religionists as well as the religious minorities within their societies. For every story which discards the nuances of todays' conflicts and casts them as part of a narrative of spiralling sectarian violence, there are others which point resolutely in the opposite direction. The "Shia Crescent" that runs from Iran, through Assad’s regime in Damascus to Hizbullah in Lebanon was once praised by Sunni figures. But the revolutions in the region have pitted Shia governments against Sunni Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who have supported their co-religionists with cash. This is strengthening Sunni assertiveness and making the Shia feel more threatened than usual. In most cases, though, members of the two groups still live harmoniously together. |
Have the leaders of the Sunni and Shia tried to stop this? What have they done to prevent the violence? |
I don't know what you mean by the leaders of the Sunni & Shia. In Islam, we don't have a 'Pope', Muslim Scholars of course have denounced violence and are still denouncing violence every single day. The fact that the mainstream media doesn't cover those stories because they do not fit the current narrative doesn't mean they don't exist. |
This summer, many Muslims marched in the streets of London, Paris and other cities to condemn the deaths of Gazans at the hands of Israel . Of course it makes sense to protest the bombing of schools and residential buildings. But, inexplicably, there have been no similarly large-scale demonstrations against the Islamic State for its horrific acts against Christians, Yazidis and even its fellow Muslims in Iraq and Syria. And there certainly haven’t been any marches protesting the beheading of innocents. It’s not hard to organize a march. So where are the demonstrations?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/where-are-the-marches-against-the-islamic-state/2014/08/29/531f6052-2ed0-11e4-994d-202962a9150c_story.html?hpid=z6 |
OMG, not t he “why don’t they march against something else” crowd . Seriously, Muslims are free to march/denounce any causes they see fit, like any other human being. They do NOT have to march against ISIS. They can march for whatever causes they choose to support just like you can, we dont have to prove to you or anybody else our humanity by marching against something YOU think we should march against. I for one marched against the apartheid state of Israel and I will not march against ISIS. Whether people, Muslims or others, march to protest ISIS's brutality and abuse/distortion of religion or not will not have a spit of impact on ISIS. ISIS is not a freaking country, government or international organization that relies on public marches to decide what its next move is. There are certainly many terrible humanitarian disasters in the world about which we must all feel anguish.The point of a mass demonstration for Gaza is to put pressure on our government and to alter public opinion in this country, now comparing that to ISIS, really? Despite the fact that numerous Muslim religious authorities, advocacy groups, and Imams have come together to denounce the Islamic State's un-Islamic crimes against humanity, people like you will never be satisfied.
As a Muslim, I’m getting a bit sick of people asking me over and over how I feel about ISIS. What do you want me to say, seriously? “It is a great humanitarian organization, mwahahaha!” before I fly off on a magic carpet? I am quite sick of feeling guilty for someone else's actions. Yes, someone ELSE. Not me, nor anyone else I influenced. Every time someone who shares my faith goes wacko, almost instantaneously all Muslims are forced into the limelight, and compelled to condemn the actions, yet the same standard isn't applied to non-Muslim terrorists and criminals. Weren’t we clear before how we feel about terrorism? If people didn’t understand us for the past 10 + years since 9/11, what makes you think they’re going to understand us now? I’m not trying to be insensitive about the crimes committed by ISIS. Of course my prayers and sentiments are with anyone affected by the tragedy. The same goes for any act of terrorism. But I’m not going to apologize or condemn them and march on the streets just because you want me to because I don’t need to prove my patriotism with some kind of McCarthyite litmus test. BTW, just so you know , a quick google search could have shown you that there have been numerous marches by Muslims against ISIS not just in the US but other parts of the world as well. These just being some of them: http://twitchy.com/2014/08/25/muslims-against-isis-gather-in-dearborn-mich-to-condemn-inhumane-crimes/ http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/27/norways-muslims-rally-against-isis |
+1! |
Muslima,
Please learn to write in succinct sentences without rambling on and on and ON AND ON! No one is asking you to apologize or march on the streets to show that you do NOT support ISIS but if you don't condemn them for their actions you are just as bad as they are. I do not know ONE PERSON no matter WHAT religion who is not HORRIFIED by ISIS. They are barbaric monsters. Sub-humans that have never evolved. That ANYONE would do what they are doing in the name of "Allah" is BEYOND. Seriously, get a grip. Are you living under a rock? Have you not seen what they have done to women? To children? To Christians? To anyone who is NOT LIKE THEM? BE-HEADING SOMEONE WITH A SMALL KNIFE AND POSTING IT ON YOUTUBE? FOR HIS FAMILY AND THE WORLD TO SEE? Be-heading children and running around in the streets with their heads on sticks? Mothers are getting raped and killed and fathers are being hung. ISIS - the Nazi's of the 21st century. Don't condemn them, Muslima. Who ARE you anyway? |
What is your point? ![]() |
You read my point and you do not have the right to use the "eye roll" since you cannot write in coherent sentences.
Please, Muslima. Get over yourself. |
you are being paid to post positive comments about Islam. Another reputation saver posting from some all girls school in saudi arabia. |
this!!! more Saudi money going to spread Islam. |