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Muslima wrote:Ughh, we are not Supposed to pray them together. Prayers are supposed to be prayed on time. This is not always logistically possible, so sometimes people accumulate prayers, but they are not MEANT to be prayed together. That's the Rule!

This is your perspective. It's fine - it's an orthodox Sunni one, but it does not reflect the attitudes, habits, or "supposed to" ideologies of all Muslims.

That is not my perspective, that is the Rule accepted by 90% of the Muslims who happen to be Sunni! Do all Muslims pray? No, Do all Muslims pray on time? No, that doesn't change the Rule that is accepted and agreed on

Agreed on by a number of human scholars, with varying perspectives taking into account Quran vs. Sunnah. Yes, yours is the mainstream orthodox position, but even a quick Wiki read will tell you there are more than enough differing perspectives among scholars and schools of thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salat

Wikipedia, my Islamic Source . Was that Satire? Won't even click or read. I have studied Islam and am continuously studding it, I don't need Wiikipedia.....

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Muslima wrote:Ughh, we are not Supposed to pray them together. Prayers are supposed to be prayed on time. This is not always logistically possible, so sometimes people accumulate prayers, but they are not MEANT to be prayed together. That's the Rule!

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This is your perspective. It's fine - it's an orthodox Sunni one, but it does not reflect the attitudes, habits, or "supposed to" ideologies of all Muslims.

It's the most common way for sure. I'm curious why this seems to upset you.

He is the poster always bringing up the Shias and Saudis into every conversation. He/She is obsessed lol

Anonymous wrote:So why should their political grievances affect us here or those anywhere else who don't believe? You make no sense.

You can't think critically, so I will let you live in your ignorance. Maybe one day, you will find out ~

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Muslima wrote:Ughh, we are not Supposed to pray them together. Prayers are supposed to be prayed on time. This is not always logistically possible, so sometimes people accumulate prayers, but they are not MEANT to be prayed together. That's the Rule!

This is your perspective. It's fine - it's an orthodox Sunni one, but it does not reflect the attitudes, habits, or "supposed to" ideologies of all Muslims.

That is not my perspective, that is the Rule accepted by over 90% of the World Muslims who happen to be Sunni! Do all Muslims pray? No, Do all Muslims pray on time? No, that doesn't change the Rule that is accepted and agreed on

Ughh, we are not Supposed to pray them together. Prayers are supposed to be prayed on time. This is not always logistically possible, so sometimes people accumulate prayers, but they are not MEANT to be prayed together. That's the Rule!

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Muslima wrote:With freedom comes responsibility, as the saying goes. People focus on their rights, maybe once in a while, we should focus on our duties to mankind. Hate begets Hate. I have never understood the principle of "right to offend". Why would you like to offend someone? What's the usefulness of this right? What was the value added to the world of the distasteful cartoons? They didn't make the world a better place, they contributed to the marginalization and mockery of minorities and contributed to adding more hate to a broken world. Just because you have a right to say something, doesn't mean you should!

With that said, shouldn't the person who the hatred is directed at just ignore the ignorance of the name caller? Of course just because they can be offensive, does not mean that they should be. Unfortunately, it always has been and most likely always will be. When I was younger I was picked on and made fun of. I was offended and it hurt terribly. However, there came a point where I realized that they are making fun of me because of some issue that they have going on in their life. It has nothing to do with me. They have a right to their opinion and to voice it. I have the option of not letting it affect me. More than likely, they are the ones that are miserable and I decided not to let them drag me down with them. Hate does not always beget hate. Unfortunately it does when people are uneducated and are easy pray for those who do hate...no matter what their background is.

Well the majority ignores them, one in a while you have a.lunatic who goes bersek, and the Paris attacks were not just about the cartoons. There are underlying issues that brought us to where we are today and this can not be analyzed in a vacuum, outside of the context and surrounding climate

So, are you saying that what happened in Paris is justified? I am not trying to be an ass, I just want to make sure I understand before posting a comment.

It is not justified, but it can be explained~

So all people who practice the radical form of Islam are lunatics, is this what you are saying?

No. Most of them have political grievances. They are using the wrong tools to solve legitimate issues and problems that exist in their societies

So you think these are stable, intelligent, individuals who just happen to have political grievances? Out of curiosity, what are these political grievances you say they have? What in the world can make it okay to kill people because they don't agree with the same God that you do?

I have already discussed this many times in many posts that are easily searchable. (And your narrative is false, they don't just kill people because they worship a different God, this is a bit simplistic!) Here's one:


-In the Muslim community, we have uneducated, self-taught followers who believe they are qualified to give religious verdicts and that they can make someone else's life permissible, without ever actually having studied with a single scholar. Googling fatwas and quoting random incidents from the Seerah is enough these days to become a faqih.

-The terms jihad (struggle) and Shaheed ( martyr) have been hijacked by extremist movements who might be motivated by legitimate concerns, but express that motivation in un-Islamic manners, and cause destruction & bloodshed in the name of religion whilst overlooking their own responsibilities towards their communities.

-Young overzealous youth, angered by the transgressions of Western powers, are often swayed by fancy rhetoric and enticing slogans into entering a military conflict that eventually ends up harming the very people they claim to protect

-The Muslim world lacks strong leaders and strong institutions. They are mostly led by dictators who oppress their own people and are in bed with the western world.

- You have a country like Saudi Arabia that is exporting more extremism than oil. Political identity around grievances are then used and exploited in regions with huge crisis of identity problems.

- Lots of extremists that inspire people through the web, we need to counter that narrative

- Attacks like the ones in Paris will provoke the rise of nationalist policies and parties in the West, and this is what extremists want, so they can draw a further wedge and recruit more people. Their main goal is to divide communities so they can polarize and radicalize.

For anyone interested, I highly recommend this talk by Dr.Yasir Qadhi about the causes and roots of Muslim Fundamentalism .In this interview, he gets into the mindset of radical "Islamic" movements and unveils the psychological framework that leads to terrorism. He academically analyses the three primary combinations that must exist before radicalism is resorted to

Well, the prayers have different times, so we don't pray them all together. The current times for Northern VA:

Fajr is at 5h45am...> So you would pray this before going to work
Dhur is at 12:18pm..> Pray this at lunch time
Asr is at 2:50pm..> Pray this during afternoon break
Maghrib at 5:09PM...> I'm usually home at this time
Isha at 6:40PM...> Already home

These times do change though depending on whether we are in the summer, or winter, spring ect

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How often does Christ get slandered?

Seriously? Plenty, as do Christians.

yeah - so what?

Anyone person secure in his/her belief system, will turn the other cheek, no?

Religion is for morons anyway.

I'm sorry but I cannot recall any Muslims mocking Jesus Christ. Can someone please send me a list of examples? All I can think of is atheists like George Carlin.

I'm not sure if there are cartoonists in the Muslim world, but they consider Christians Infidels and want them run out of the world so that Muslims can control the world. In Saudi Arabia, other religions aren't even allowed. Many of these countries don't allow free speech which is why there are no cartoonists.

Lol, there are Christians , Buddhists, Atheist and the horror, Jews who live in Saudi Arabia. There are Many Cartoonists in the Muslim World, but it is forbidden in Islam to make fun or mock other religions.

It's my understanding that the practice of other religions in Saudi Arabia is illegal. Is that incorrect?

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/saudi-arabia/local-laws-and-customs

The poster stated that other religions are not allowed in Saudi Arabia and I replied that there are Christians, Jews ect in the Kingdom, so they do practice their religion in KSA. But you are correct that Islam is the only publicly acceptable religion as no churches or synagogues are allowed in the Kingdom

On the link you shared:

However, the Saudi authorities accept the private practice of religions other than Islam, and you can bring a Bible into the country as long as it is for your personal use. Importing larger quantities than this can carry severe penalties.

except that Jews can't really practice their religion in private given the requirements of a minyan.

I don't know what a minyan is and don't know how the jews who live there reconcile that....

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How often does Christ get slandered?

Seriously? Plenty, as do Christians.

yeah - so what?

Anyone person secure in his/her belief system, will turn the other cheek, no?

Religion is for morons anyway.

I'm sorry but I cannot recall any Muslims mocking Jesus Christ. Can someone please send me a list of examples? All I can think of is atheists like George Carlin.

I'm not sure if there are cartoonists in the Muslim world, but they consider Christians Infidels and want them run out of the world so that Muslims can control the world. In Saudi Arabia, other religions aren't even allowed. Many of these countries don't allow free speech which is why there are no cartoonists.

Lol, there are Christians , Buddhists, Atheist and the horror, Jews who live in Saudi Arabia. There are Many Cartoonists in the Muslim World, but it is forbidden in Islam to make fun or mock other religions.

It's my understanding that the practice of other religions in Saudi Arabia is illegal. Is that incorrect?

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/saudi-arabia/local-laws-and-customs

The poster stated that other religions are not allowed in Saudi Arabia and I replied that there are Christians, Jews ect in the Kingdom, so they do practice their religion in KSA. But you are correct that Islam is the only publicly acceptable religion as no churches or synagogues are allowed in the Kingdom

On the link you shared:

However, the Saudi authorities accept the private practice of religions other than Islam, and you can bring a Bible into the country as long as it is for your personal use. Importing larger quantities than this can carry severe penalties.

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Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:With freedom comes responsibility, as the saying goes. People focus on their rights, maybe once in a while, we should focus on our duties to mankind. Hate begets Hate. I have never understood the principle of "right to offend". Why would you like to offend someone? What's the usefulness of this right? What was the value added to the world of the distasteful cartoons? They didn't make the world a better place, they contributed to the marginalization and mockery of minorities and contributed to adding more hate to a broken world. Just because you have a right to say something, doesn't mean you should!

With that said, shouldn't the person who the hatred is directed at just ignore the ignorance of the name caller? Of course just because they can be offensive, does not mean that they should be. Unfortunately, it always has been and most likely always will be. When I was younger I was picked on and made fun of. I was offended and it hurt terribly. However, there came a point where I realized that they are making fun of me because of some issue that they have going on in their life. It has nothing to do with me. They have a right to their opinion and to voice it. I have the option of not letting it affect me. More than likely, they are the ones that are miserable and I decided not to let them drag me down with them. Hate does not always beget hate. Unfortunately it does when people are uneducated and are easy pray for those who do hate...no matter what their background is.

Well the majority ignores them, one in a while you have a.lunatic who goes bersek, and the Paris attacks were not just about the cartoons. There are underlying issues that brought us to where we are today and this can not be analyzed in a vacuum, outside of the context and surrounding climate

So, are you saying that what happened in Paris is justified? I am not trying to be an ass, I just want to make sure I understand before posting a comment.

It is not justified, but it can be explained~

So all people who practice the radical form of Islam are lunatics, is this what you are saying?

No. Most of them have political grievances. They are using the wrong tools to solve legitimate issues and problems that exist in their societies

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Muslima wrote:As a Muslim having family in Europe and the US and having lived in both, i'd like to say that American Muslims are way more integrated than their European counterparts. Say what you will about America, but at the end of the day, we remain a nation that not only tolerates but for the most part embraces our differences, our individualities, freedom to worship who we want, how we want. Yes, we are not perfect, and we still have our issues but we are still better than most, and we are still working to get better. And this is why, I as a Muslim love America and will choose it 100 times over France. And this is the sentiment of most American Muslims, while most European Muslims, at least the ones i spoke to felt misunderstood and marginalized by their governments. No wonder, most of the islamophobic cartoons and anti-islam movies were birthed in Europe!

Then why don't you sponsor your brother and the rest of your family so they can come here? We should open our borders to all the oppressed Muslims of Europe just as we are opening them to all the refugees from Central America. They will absolutely thrive here.

My brother is only in Paris temporarily, I don't think he will stay there forever. The rest of my family who lives there are citizens and do not wish to live anywhere else I guess, that's all they know, just like my family in the US is fully americanized and will probably not live anywhere else.

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How often does Christ get slandered?

Seriously? Plenty, as do Christians.

yeah - so what?

Anyone person secure in his/her belief system, will turn the other cheek, no?

Religion is for morons anyway.

I'm sorry but I cannot recall any Muslims mocking Jesus Christ. Can someone please send me a list of examples? All I can think of is atheists like George Carlin.

I'm not sure if there are cartoonists in the Muslim world, but they consider Christians Infidels and want them run out of the world so that Muslims can control the world. In Saudi Arabia, other religions aren't even allowed. Many of these countries don't allow free speech which is why there are no cartoonists.

Lol, there are Christians , Buddhists, Atheist and the horror, Jews who live in Saudi Arabia. There are Many Cartoonists in the Muslim World, but it is forbidden in Islam to make fun or mock other religions.

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Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:With freedom comes responsibility, as the saying goes. People focus on their rights, maybe once in a while, we should focus on our duties to mankind. Hate begets Hate. I have never understood the principle of "right to offend". Why would you like to offend someone? What's the usefulness of this right? What was the value added to the world of the distasteful cartoons? They didn't make the world a better place, they contributed to the marginalization and mockery of minorities and contributed to adding more hate to a broken world. Just because you have a right to say something, doesn't mean you should!

With that said, shouldn't the person who the hatred is directed at just ignore the ignorance of the name caller? Of course just because they can be offensive, does not mean that they should be. Unfortunately, it always has been and most likely always will be. When I was younger I was picked on and made fun of. I was offended and it hurt terribly. However, there came a point where I realized that they are making fun of me because of some issue that they have going on in their life. It has nothing to do with me. They have a right to their opinion and to voice it. I have the option of not letting it affect me. More than likely, they are the ones that are miserable and I decided not to let them drag me down with them. Hate does not always beget hate. Unfortunately it does when people are uneducated and are easy pray for those who do hate...no matter what their background is.

Well the majority ignores them, one in a while you have a.lunatic who goes bersek, and the Paris attacks were not just about the cartoons. There are underlying issues that brought us to where we are today and this can not be analyzed in a vacuum, outside of the context and surrounding climate

So, are you saying that what happened in Paris is justified? I am not trying to be an ass, I just want to make sure I understand before posting a comment.

It is not justified, but it can be explained~

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Anonymous wrote:Yes someone enlighten me. I am Muslim and pray 5x a day and this is the first I have heard of this. If OP is right, have I been praying wrong this whole time?

Who has time to pray 5x/day? Do you work?

Muslims pray 5 times a day and yes, we do work!

On the odd chance that you were serious. This is the transliteration of the Muslim Prayers ( Note all Muslims pray in Arabic) :

We start by saying:
Allah is the greatest
Glory be to you, O Allah, and all praises are due unto you, and blessed is your name and high is your majesty and none is worthy of worship but you.
I seek Allah's protection from Satan who is accursed.

Then the Fatihah is the chapter that needs to be recited in each prayer. The Fatihah is obligatory for each prayer, not reciting it will invalidate the prayer. The meaning of the Fatihah is :
Praise is only for Allah, Lord of the Universe.
The most Kind, the most Merciful.
The master of the Day of Judgement.
You alone we worship and to you alone we pray for help.
Show us the straight way,
The way of those whom you have blessed.
Who have not deserved your anger,
Nor gone astray.

Then, you need to recite an additional chapter of the Qur'an at this point but any chapter will do. There are no guidelines as to what chapter needs to be recited at this point, you choose whatever chapter you like.

Then: Glory to my Lord the Exalted. (3 times) while in Ruku (vowing)
Then (Standing After Ruku), we say: Verily Allah listens to one who praises Him. Oh our Lord, all praises be to you.
Then, there is the 1st Sajdah (Prostration), where we say : Oh Allah, glory be to you, the most High. (3x)
Then, Jthere is the alsah (Sitting between two Sajdah), where we say: Oh Allah, forgive me, and have mercy on me
Then, we say Allahu Akbar before going to teh 2nd Sajdah from Jalsah & recite the same supplication.

This entire process is called one Rakah, some prayers are 2 rakas, some 3 and some 4, which means you repeat the process 2, 3, or 4 times depending on what prayer it is. In the final Rakah of the prayer, while sitting in sajdah, before finishing the prayer, we recite what is called the Tashahud:

All greetings, blessings and good acts are from You, my Lord. Greetings to you, O Prophet, and the mercy and blessings of Allah. Peace be unto us, and unto the righteous servants of Allah. I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah. And I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and messenger.


Then, we recite Salat Alan-Nabi - Salutation to the Prophet
O Allah, bless our Muhammad and the people of Muhammad; As you have blessed Abraham and the people of Abraham. Surely you are the Praiseworthy, the Glorious. O Allah, be gracious unto Muhammad and the people of Muhammad; As you were gracious unto Abraham and the people of Abraham. Surely you are the Praiseworthy, the Glorious.

Then, the dua to protect against the trials of the Antichrist.
O Allah! I seek Your protection from the torture of hell, and I seek Your protection from the torture of the grave, and I seek refuge with You from the mischief of life and death, and I seek Your protection from the mischief of the AntiChrist.

We end the prayer by saying: Peace be on you and the mercy of Allah ( this is to the Angels on both your right and left hand sides.)

I know this all seems lengthy, complicated, but it is not, the whole process takes a few minutes. This is a video with translations :