Your strawmen are tiresome. If you'd like to talk about gay marriage, I'd be happy to. Polygamy isn't on the table. Feel free to argue that on your own thread. As I said before, I'd be happy to consider it- heck it's even been legal before, in this country.

Strawmen. How unique.

Homosexual monogamy and polygamy are inherently different. One would require relatively little change, simply allowing marriage licenses to be granted to same-sex couples. The other would require a complete overhaul of our tax code, domestic abuse laws, and has comparatively weak research background supporting it as a viable situation for raising children and its effect on the psychological and physiological state of the spouse(s).

But hey, if the polygamy lobby wants to give it a go, I'll listen.

Ahhhh, now I see, it's troll the Political Board Friday.

We use them for our twin boys. We've used them since they could sit up, and I think they are great if you've got a car seat on the other side to use. Mine are passed between my sister's family and mine, but I know you can find them around.

Believe would be the wrong word here. You don't approve of it. It happens whether or not you believe in it- it's not Santa or the Easter Bunny, and I've got the certificate to prove it.

I don't approve of a huge host of things that other people do, but I'm an American and due to that happy accident it doesn't matter what I approve or do not approve so long as it does not harm me.

See- gay Americans like myself are harmed by being unable to marry the person of our choosing, our families are harmed by not being afforded the protections that marriage allows other American families. It is a right that you are offered that I am not- which is fundamentally unfair.

That's why it matters.

Today I told my mom that I was disappointed about the NC vote, but that I had my chin up. Then I said something to the effect of "I don't care if they hate me, but they'd better not say anything nasty to my kid." (I am a gay parent)

She replied, "Oh honey, don't you get it? That feeling of wanting to protect your kids from the ugliness... That's how *I* feel, because I'm *your* mom."

I think it's this- parents friends and families of gay people who will turn the tide. Tell me my life is illegitimate all you like- I just hope you don't say it when my 60 year old mom is around. She'll mama bear your ass.

" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

Anonymous wrote:
Glad to hear she is doing fine-do you think having the rights are part of marriage or having the rights are part of being partners?

Am not PP, but another married gay woman, and the rights come from being an American. Marriage for everyone or civil unions for everyone but no separate but equal. Our rights should not be put to votes, and if the Feds must trump the states, so be it. They did the same for interracial marriage.

C: OP, your initial post and all the follow-ups were great - but look what you spawned!

A: I actually debated posting an apology. I really was just trying to figure out a way to communicate beyond the rhetoric, but now I broke Off-Topic. I am sorry!

Q/c: Seriously. Hats off to you for having copious amounts of patience. And I hope the fact that some of us support you 100% makes up, even the tiniest bit, for the folks who don't.

A: Thanks. As a wise man once said, "haters gonna hate". I'm not going to dwell on them. But thanks for the support- this latest poster is being pretty dismissive of a lot of families, not just my own.

Q:What are your favorite LGBT blogs and websites? I'm so sad that Dykes to Watch Out For has stopped!
Signed,
Married lesbian MOTHER to-be (counting down the days until wife gives birth!)

A: favorites include Dorothy Snarker- http://dorothysurrenders.blogspot.com for pop culture and Pam's house Blend for politics.
And- EEEEEEE!!! That is so exciting! I love the itty bitties!

"I would say the mother's wife, who adopted them.

Which would make her their.....

Go ahead PP, you can say it. Just sound it out. Muuu thrrrr

Q:Have you, or any lesbian you know, encountered hostile sexual harassment or threats from machismo men who do not accept you for who you are? I read about this happening in DC.

A: I have on numerous occasions, beggining in high school when I was assaulted physically for turning down a boy's unwanted attentions. He called me a dyke in that attack, marking the first time that happened. I have been harassed a number of times since then, but not in a long while, and only once in DC, and that's been 10 years or so.

I am also someone who "passes." I don't, in my appearance, challenge anyone's notions of masculinity or femininity. There have been brutal gay bashings in DC, and a number of murders of trans women of color.

Q:My question: Does it just make your blood boil to read things like the "closet LGBT" thread? I thought that it was one of the most depressing things that I had EVER read.

A: It absolutely does make my blood boil, but then it makes me sad and depressed. Honest dialogue is a good way to combat ignorance, which is why I am here. I think it is harder to hate us if you know us. Which isn't to say I don't sometimes feel like clonking someone upside the head, but I am only human.