Before you make your summer plans to visit the Outerbanks ofNC

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Anonymous wrote:I would have voted against the marriage between same sex people but I support their rights.


No, you don't.


yes I do, I believe in marriage between a man and a women, you have no idea what I believe are you dictating what a person should believe in? I have no problem with a gay couple having the rights of me but you can;t tell me what I would do or believe in-You sound like you have a problem with people who are not affraid to stand up for what they belive.

Let me guess, you are against peopel owning guns ?


I believe you are an idiot.


way to suuport your arguemnt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would have voted against the marriage between same sex people but I support their rights.


No, you don't.


yes I do, I believe in marriage between a man and a women, you have no idea what I believe are you dictating what a person should believe in? I have no problem with a gay couple having the rights of me but you can;t tell me what I would do or believe in-You sound like you have a problem with people who are not affraid to stand up for what they belive.

Let me guess, you are against peopel owning guns ?


I believe you are an idiot.


way to suuport your arguemnt.


for the love of god, please learn to spell.
Anonymous
Clearly, for many of you, this issue is just another pissing match between liberals and conservatives. Some of us are not so lucky. Laws like these actually have real consequences for my family. I'm a married lesbian. Our daughter was born 10 weeks early. I was in surgery for 5 hours after her birth, and then confined to bed. During that time my partner held our baby in the NICU, sang to her, took her picture. When I think about Amendment 1, I think about my partner being barred from the NICU. Our baby could have spent her first day alone with no mother's touch or voice. If she had been sick, she could have died alone. That's what these votes are about.
Anonymous
I hope none of you who are willing to boycott NC (which is a perfectly reasonable choice) live, work, or shop in VA. Their law has been on the books for years and is just as bad or worse, not just denying rights but refusing to recognize contracts from other states.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Boycotting Virginia already. Happy to add North Carolina to the list.

I believe in putting my money where my values are.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Clearly, for many of you, this issue is just another pissing match between liberals and conservatives. Some of us are not so lucky. Laws like these actually have real consequences for my family. I'm a married lesbian. Our daughter was born 10 weeks early. I was in surgery for 5 hours after her birth, and then confined to bed. During that time my partner held our baby in the NICU, sang to her, took her picture. When I think about Amendment 1, I think about my partner being barred from the NICU. Our baby could have spent her first day alone with no mother's touch or voice. If she had been sick, she could have died alone. That's what these votes are about.


Glad to hear she is doing fine-do you think having the rights are part of marriage or having the rights are part of being partners?
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Anonymous wrote:Didn't only 15% of eligible voters turn out in that election? Seems like an organizing problem, and probably 61% of NCians are not for that ammendment.


Is this Al Gore?


LOL at that one
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hope none of you who are willing to boycott NC (which is a perfectly reasonable choice) live, work, or shop in VA. Their law has been on the books for years and is just as bad or worse, not just denying rights but refusing to recognize contracts from other states.
Totally different. I'm not going to leave my family and home, and here I can work for change. But when it comes to where I spend tourist dollars, I don't have to give them to a state where I have no interest other than a beach.
Anonymous
I don't understand why everyone here is so intolerant to the beliefs of others. Why cannot a state choose for themselves these basic rules? If gay couples don't like it, they can certainly move to NY or Mass.
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Glad to hear she is doing fine-do you think having the rights are part of marriage or having the rights are part of being partners?


Am not PP, but another married gay woman, and the rights come from being an American. Marriage for everyone or civil unions for everyone but no separate but equal. Our rights should not be put to votes, and if the Feds must trump the states, so be it. They did the same for interracial marriage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why everyone here is so intolerant to the beliefs of others. Why cannot a state choose for themselves these basic rules? If gay couples don't like it, they can certainly move to NY or Mass.


In the not too distant past, some states chose slavery as a "basic rule." How did that work out?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Amendment 1 states that “marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State.” It's totally unclear how this amendment will actually play out in practice, but legal scholars are saying that it could create many problems not only for gay couples, but for straight unmarried couples. Theoretically any straight or gay couple could show up at a hospital, and have the hospital staff say "family only, and according to our laws you are not family."

I'm a married lesbian, and I actually agree with the poster above that marriage shouldn't be tied to rights. If I could get the rights without the marriage, I would be happy to do so. Unfortunately, those who don't want gays to marry are also the first to deny us because we are not married. I got married because it is one more way to protect my partner and our child.

I won't be going to North Carolina, not because I want to deny hardworking NCers their livelihood, but because I don't want to risk dying alone, and I certainly don't want to be in a situation where our daughter would be in the hospital and be denied one of her moms.


Clearly, the movement doesn't agree with you on this one, as these battles have always focused on the right to "marry." I for one will always vote against gay marriage, as I do not support a fundamental redefinition of marriage, period. I stand on firm ground alongside the majority of Americans on this one, as evidenced by the way the votes have fallen. However, I do believe that any adult in this country should be able to legally declare another adult, who would have legal rights in certain situations. I personally know so many people who share this view, even though they are against gay marriage.

As for hospital situations involving children, aren't both mothers (or both fathers) considered the legal parents of the child? In those cases, it doesn't matter if mom and mom (or dad and dad) are married, divorced, unmarried, domestic partners, or any other arrangement - they may still see or make decisions for their children. Right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why everyone here is so intolerant to the beliefs of others. Why cannot a state choose for themselves these basic rules? If gay couples don't like it, they can certainly move to NY or Mass.


In the not too distant past, some states chose slavery as a "basic rule." How did that work out?


we have an amendment to the constitution. You have your opinion on what marriage is, I have my opinion. We are never going to agree. I'm happy to allow some sort of civil union under law to give gay couples the basic rights they feel are denied, but marriage is off limits.
Anonymous
Why is marriage off limits? For a long time marriage was about combining families of a certain pedigree, obtaining property, etc. What does it matter to me personally that 2 men or 2 women marry? It doesn't affect me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is marriage off limits? For a long time marriage was about combining families of a certain pedigree, obtaining property, etc. What does it matter to me personally that 2 men or 2 women marry? It doesn't affect me.


it affects others. some people take sacraments seriously.
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