
Agreed! Someone is surely hellbent to find Lululemon responsible.....must be someone that knows someone! Maybe an opportunist! |
I think it's more than one person who's arguing that lululemon was criminally negligent, and don't think the arguments to that effect are necessarily coming from someone who's personally connected to the case. I think these are people who have not worked in a retail environment and are unfamiliar with employee bag-check policies, or they've worked in retail environments where they feel that "better"-executed policies have protected them and their colleagues better than they feel lululemon protected Jayna Murray. |
The murderer was just so angry, judging from the obviously disproportionate damage, not to mention the excessive lying. Is this okay with anyone? This anger wasn't sudden. Maybe dormant, but not sudden. The victim could have been you or me. Maybe some are looking to blame. And why not? A lot of us are still scared, understandably so. This is a crime that will never make sense to some people. Some people simply are not capable of such hate. We should hope. But lets face it, it is downright scary that any one could hate so much. |
I think that, oddly enough, the disproportionate damage and the lies she spun as an attempt to "cover up" after the fact, are coming from her feeling "cornered" more than by anger. There are unconfirmed reports that she has a history of stealing things. Perhaps in the past, she's always "gotten away with it," to her satisfaction, but in this instance felt "cornered," and genuinely felt, despite how crazy it seems to nearly everyone else, that she was "defending herself." The comment she's reported to have made, in response to police officers saying that people at the Apple store heard two women arguing is, "Jayna started it." I think in her mind, she genuinely believes that Jayna started an argument with her, and that she, Brittany, was defending herself. |
I'm another poster who agrees that lululemon is not at fault, and I am not connected to this story in anyway. I completely agree with above posters who believe people are just looking for something to hang their guilt on. I thought about the exact same scenario, had things been done differently and she was confronted by two people the next day, she might have felt just as cornered and come back and shot up the store. That kind of anger does seem like a ticking time bomb. If she is capable of doing this, then it was just a matter of time. I don't understand why posters are trying to place blame on anyone else besides |
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I don't understand why posters are trying to place blame on anyone else besides Brittany Norwood. She is an adult, and she consciously made her choices. Why can't we just hold her 100% accountable? |
Typical criminal... only sorry... they got caught. |
People are not trying to place blame on another source. They are saying that lululemon could have possibly aided in preventing this disaster if they had better policies in place for employee issues. BrittNay should be held accountable but lululemon also plays a role. I'm sure now all the attacks will come from me saying this. |
Here's what I'm thinking: given the likelihood of employee bag checks at the end of the shift, Norwood stashed some clothes in the store, passed the bag check in front of all the other employees, then used the forgotten wallet to get back in to retrieve her hidden merchandise, thinking either Jayna would just wait by the door and/or not ask to check her bag (since she would have just run in really quickly to retrieve her "wallet" aka pre-selected items. But I'll bet Jayna did go in with Norwood, let her retrieve her "wallet" then asked to search her bag and that's when Norwood tried to intimidate/threaten her into not looking in the bag. If that had worked, it would have simply been a case of she said/she said: Norwood would have denied taking anything or trying to intimidate Jayna if Jayna reported it. But I bet Jayna didn't back off, demanded to search the bag (knowing full well she'd find stolen merchandise) and the struggle ensued. |
How about this scenario: bag check with several employees. Everyone leaves. Jayna calls and tells the manager about Britney's theft. Britney knows Jayna knows but doesn't know Jayna already told the manager. Britney calls Jayna under the guise of, I left my wallet in the store, but really wants to talk Jayna out of telling the manager. They both go back to the store and Britney starts trying to talk Jayna out of it but Jayna says she already told the manager. Britney loses it and kills her. |
I think this is what happened, too. I don't think Jayna would have gone back to the store if she had already confronted Brittany about the stolen merchandise. |
I think this is what happened, too. I don't think Jayna would have gone back to the store if she had already confronted Brittany about the stolen merchandise.
according to reports though, she did. Jayna called her manager 5 mins after leaving to report Brittany, and then recieved a called from Brittany 5 mins later to meet her back at the store - Thats how the manager knew about it. |
This is exactly what I think. |
Yeah, but I'm sure she called the manager when Brittany was out of range. Maybe after she closed up and was walking back to her car. I guess we'll never really know what happened because Norwood will likely lie about all of the events. |
The crazy thing is that if it was not solid proof of theft or even if it was, Brittany would have likely just been fired. It would have been handled internally, she would have been let go, and not be able to use Lululemon as a reference and have a gap on her resume. They probably would not have even wanted the hassle of getting the police involved - just fire her and move on. Even if they had filed a police report, I can't see there being any jail time. It's so crazy to think that Brittany would kill over something so idiotic as stealing yoga pants. I mean, it's not like Jayna caught her embezzling millions from the company or running some Madoff scheme and was going to turn her in and ruin her life if her crimes came to light. In the grand scheme of life, the consequences would have been so minor compared to a first degree murder charge. |