Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone ever question this idea of “driven from their homes and land” and just rhetoric when they are literally still living on the same land. They got driven from New Jersey to Pennsylvania basically. Then orders are only state drawn like every border in the world. Every single country in the world was created by displacing the original people who lived there or absorbing them. The British btw absorbed and expelled into and from israel the people who were living there on farms. They could have created states and made Israel bigger by now. If only.

So if your home and land was taken from you with no compensation, and then you were forced to flee to a neighboring state where you were locked in and couldn’t get out and had no job, you’d be cool with that? No biggie right?

Ask yourself why the many Arab nations haven’t stepped in to welcome their Muslim brothers and sisters into their countries. There’s a reason. Speaks volumes about Arabs and Muslims: Palestinians and the neighboring and farther flung Arab nations.

It’s a real shame the Middle East never evolved to a tolerant melting pot like the US. Had they evolved beyond religious extremism and ethnic divide the region would be safer and more prosperous.

Their rigid cultural norms have held them back. Too bad we can’t flip a switch and help them evolve.

I see this argument every now and then, that the neighboring nations must welcome palestinians because they practice the same religion.
Palestinians don’t all want to leave
Just because someone in another country has your religion doesn’t mean you owe them something

I think we all know that the palestinians are not going to disappear. Israel has to accept that

Expelling legal inhabitants into settlements just because they don’t practice your religion is not the way forward

Gaza has 500 dead and 2000 wounded. Electricity and supply of goods is halted
They will starve, but I do not know if they would be able to give much resistence anyway

You are misinformed. Arabs and Muslims make up a sizeable minority within Israel and live peacefully with everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone ever question this idea of “driven from their homes and land” and just rhetoric when they are literally still living on the same land. They got driven from New Jersey to Pennsylvania basically. Then orders are only state drawn like every border in the world. Every single country in the world was created by displacing the original people who lived there or absorbing them. The British btw absorbed and expelled into and from israel the people who were living there on farms. They could have created states and made Israel bigger by now. If only.

So if your home and land was taken from you with no compensation, and then you were forced to flee to a neighboring state where you were locked in and couldn’t get out and had no job, you’d be cool with that? No biggie right?

Ask yourself why the many Arab nations haven’t stepped in to welcome their Muslim brothers and sisters into their countries. There’s a reason. Speaks volumes about Arabs and Muslims: Palestinians and the neighboring and farther flung Arab nations.

It’s a real shame the Middle East never evolved to a tolerant melting pot like the US. Had they evolved beyond religious extremism and ethnic divide the region would be safer and more prosperous.

Their rigid cultural norms have held them back. Too bad we can’t flip a switch and help them evolve.

More than Three million Palestinians live in Jordan. Two-hundred ten thousand live in Lebanon. Other Palestinian refugees live in Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Syria, Libya and Kuwait. A hand few live in Iraq and Iraq and Egypt.

Yeah, and the locals often don’t fully embrace the Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m no lover of Hamas, but it’s really hard to take the Israel defenders seriously when they won’t acknowledge that perhaps Palestinians have some legitimate gripes with their treatment.

That totes justifies kidnapping of women and children, raping and killing them. Totes

No one said it did. But it shows Israel is not the blameless victim it makes itself out to be. Both sides are awful.

Oh stop with your idiotic “both sides” nonsense. People in this thread have been asking repeatedly for videos showing the same level of barbarism shown to the young Jewish women yesterday (and probably more coming out today). All you “both sides” people claim that these videos exist, that the Israelis sexually assault and degrade the corpses of young Palestinian women on the regular. But of course, the “both sides” people can’t provide any links because those videos don’t exist. The Israelis do not rape young Palestinian women, drag their corpse afterwards into the street, and desecrate the corpse. They don’t use sexual assault of women as a tool of war. This is on ONE side, and you look like a moron for not being able to see the plain truth. Use your head for once.

I am not that poster but Israelis engage in lots of horrible behavior towards Palestinians, including shooting kids.

Suggesting that Israel is blameless and Palestinians as a group are barbaric/subhuman is idiotic and disgraceful.

Look, just find a single video of Israelis cheering for and spitting on the desecrated corpse of a naked young Palestinian woman who was likely raped before she was killed. You people keep insisting there are thousands of such videos. Just give us one of them. A single one, not even multiple links.

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Rape totally ok
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-israel-rabbi-idUKKCN0ZS1Q1

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So if your home and land was taken from you with no compensation, and then you were forced to flee to a neighboring state where you were locked in and couldn’t get out and had no job, you’d be cool with that? No biggie right?

Ask yourself why the many Arab nations haven’t stepped in to welcome their Muslim brothers and sisters into their countries. There’s a reason. Speaks volumes about Arabs and Muslims: Palestinians and the neighboring and farther flung Arab nations.

It’s a real shame the Middle East never evolved to a tolerant melting pot like the US. Had they evolved beyond religious extremism and ethnic divide the region would be safer and more prosperous.

Their rigid cultural norms have held them back. Too bad we can’t flip a switch and help them evolve.

I see this argument every now and then, that the neighboring nations must welcome palestinians because they practice the same religion.
Palestinians don’t all want to leave
Just because someone in another country has your religion doesn’t mean you owe them something

I think we all know that the palestinians are not going to disappear. Israel has to accept that

Expelling legal inhabitants into settlements just because they don’t practice your religion is not the way forward

Gaza has 500 dead and 2000 wounded. Electricity and supply of goods is halted
They will starve, but I do not know if they would be able to give much resistence anyway

I think you missed the point.

The point is this will never work because Hamas is a terrorist group whose mission is to destroy Israel and kill Jews. Hamas runs the show over there. They will never coexist peacefully. Never. Decades have proven this. Not gonna happen.

What’s the solution?

Assimilate them into Arab nations.

If America can assimilate Arabs, Africans, and seemingly all Spanish speaking people, then surely the many Arab nations can step up and do their part for the Palestinians.

And if they can’t, that speaks volumes.

Can you please recognize that people who want “death to Israel” can never live in or adjacent to Israel?

lol thanks for amplifying the Israeli cause: as much Palestinian land as possible with as few Palestinians as possible.

And what is your solution?

If the events of the last few days demonstrate anything, it is that people standing around demanding to know one another’s “solution” has not paved a path to peace.

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Anonymous wrote:Us should send troops or at least strategic bomb

Israel has all of that on its own.

What needs to happen right now is for Israel & Hamas to negotiate the release of hostages. If it doesn’t happen within the next 24-36 hours, we can presume all these hostages in Gaza to be dead. Hamas has some brutal psychopaths who are just starting to ramp up the social media propaganda war and will do horrible things.

Israel & Hamas need to trade people ASAP.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that CNN and Co. keep interviewing Israeli military, politicians, academics, regular folk etc. but there hasn't been a single voice to articulate a Palestinian perspective. like not one. This is not journalism. Say what you want about Al Jazeera, they obviously have a pro Palestinian slant but at least they always invite an Israeli voice along with a Palestinian perspective.

#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The “savages” are the ones who kidnapped a little boy, and brought him into Gaza. Imagine the night he is having, and hang your head in shame:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1710811394348552276?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710811394348552276%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Don’t care. How many Palestinian boys have been kidnapped, tortured and killed by the IDF? Israel regularly kidnaps children and tortures them in military prisons. You should actually kill yourself for thinking anyone needs to care about dead Israeli settlers. Israelis only understand violence.

Hamas sent their brightest light to engage with us on DCUM tonight?

+1 And it shows the thinking of some of the DCUM posters who post here.

If you're just reading that person's posts now, let me tell you at least several posts where he called us "lying Jews" (maybe also filthy Jews or stinking Jews? I think there were other adjectives) have already been removed.

PP here. I was up late last night and did read them. I responded to none of them but will admit I was shocked (actually, more than shocked and horrified) at the thoughts and ideas I was reading. (Just fyi -- I'm an older DCUM poster, white, Christian living in a large southern city and have many Jewish friends who work in same school system with me).

I reported at least one of those, as well as some profoundly racist anti-Muslim commentary. This is going to be a rough few days for Jeff.

I have in the past been really hard on Jeff for not removing Jew-hating content, but I kind of wish he had left that guy's posts. After all, that guy calling us filthy Jews (or something) just said the quiet part out loud and forgot to substitute "Zionists" at the last minute as per postmodern leftist talking points.

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#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The “savages” are the ones who kidnapped a little boy, and brought him into Gaza. Imagine the night he is having, and hang your head in shame:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1710811394348552276?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710811394348552276%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Don’t care. How many Palestinian boys have been kidnapped, tortured and killed by the IDF? Israel regularly kidnaps children and tortures them in military prisons. You should actually kill yourself for thinking anyone needs to care about dead Israeli settlers. Israelis only understand violence.

Hamas sent their brightest light to engage with us on DCUM tonight?

+1 And it shows the thinking of some of the DCUM posters who post here.

If you're just reading that person's posts now, let me tell you at least several posts where he called us "lying Jews" (maybe also filthy Jews or stinking Jews? I think there were other adjectives) have already been removed.

PP here. I was up late last night and did read them. I responded to none of them but will admit I was shocked (actually, more than shocked and horrified) at the thoughts and ideas I was reading. (Just fyi -- I'm an older DCUM poster, white, Christian living in a large southern city and have many Jewish friends who work in same school system with me).

Thank you. By the way, your Jewish colleagues might appreciate an expression of sympathy. My colleagues here in DC who usually have a lot to say very loudly about "ally action" have been silent.

My sympathy is for civilians on both sides. In the end my guess is far more Palestinian civilians will die than Israelis and they will get far less attention/support after this ends.

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That totes justifies kidnapping of women and children, raping and killing them. Totes

No one said it did. But it shows Israel is not the blameless victim it makes itself out to be. Both sides are awful.

Oh stop with your idiotic “both sides” nonsense. People in this thread have been asking repeatedly for videos showing the same level of barbarism shown to the young Jewish women yesterday (and probably more coming out today). All you “both sides” people claim that these videos exist, that the Israelis sexually assault and degrade the corpses of young Palestinian women on the regular. But of course, the “both sides” people can’t provide any links because those videos don’t exist. The Israelis do not rape young Palestinian women, drag their corpse afterwards into the street, and desecrate the corpse. They don’t use sexual assault of women as a tool of war. This is on ONE side, and you look like a moron for not being able to see the plain truth. Use your head for once.

Oh yes the body count of Palestinian dead every year, including children, is all a big misunderstanding.

There were no credible reports of rape that I read.

this antisemite wants a video of a rape of an Israeli so he can pleasure himself to it

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone ever question this idea of “driven from their homes and land” and just rhetoric when they are literally still living on the same land. They got driven from New Jersey to Pennsylvania basically. Then orders are only state drawn like every border in the world. Every single country in the world was created by displacing the original people who lived there or absorbing them. The British btw absorbed and expelled into and from israel the people who were living there on farms. They could have created states and made Israel bigger by now. If only.

So if your home and land was taken from you with no compensation, and then you were forced to flee to a neighboring state where you were locked in and couldn’t get out and had no job, you’d be cool with that? No biggie right?

Ask yourself why the many Arab nations haven’t stepped in to welcome their Muslim brothers and sisters into their countries. There’s a reason. Speaks volumes about Arabs and Muslims: Palestinians and the neighboring and farther flung Arab nations.

It’s a real shame the Middle East never evolved to a tolerant melting pot like the US. Had they evolved beyond religious extremism and ethnic divide the region would be safer and more prosperous.

Their rigid cultural norms have held them back. Too bad we can’t flip a switch and help them evolve.

I see this argument every now and then, that the neighboring nations must welcome palestinians because they practice the same religion.
Palestinians don’t all want to leave
Just because someone in another country has your religion doesn’t mean you owe them something

I think we all know that the palestinians are not going to disappear. Israel has to accept that

Expelling legal inhabitants into settlements just because they don’t practice your religion is not the way forward

Gaza has 500 dead and 2000 wounded. Electricity and supply of goods is halted
They will starve, but I do not know if they would be able to give much resistence anyway

You are misinformed. Arabs and Muslims make up a sizeable minority within Israel and live peacefully with everyone else.

The current situation unsustainable
Gaza and west bank do not belong to Israel
Illegal settlements are still illegal. Israel needs to do its bit and halt the settlements. The land will never be fully theirs, they have to find a way to live side by side

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Yeah ok https://english.alarabiya.net/perspective/analysis/2015/08/17/RE-EXPOSED-A-horrific-story-of-Israeli-rape-and-murder-in-1949

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#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The “savages” are the ones who kidnapped a little boy, and brought him into Gaza. Imagine the night he is having, and hang your head in shame:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1710811394348552276?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710811394348552276%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Don’t care. How many Palestinian boys have been kidnapped, tortured and killed by the IDF? Israel regularly kidnaps children and tortures them in military prisons. You should actually kill yourself for thinking anyone needs to care about dead Israeli settlers. Israelis only understand violence.

Hamas sent their brightest light to engage with us on DCUM tonight?

+1 And it shows the thinking of some of the DCUM posters who post here.

If you're just reading that person's posts now, let me tell you at least several posts where he called us "lying Jews" (maybe also filthy Jews or stinking Jews? I think there were other adjectives) have already been removed.

PP here. I was up late last night and did read them. I responded to none of them but will admit I was shocked (actually, more than shocked and horrified) at the thoughts and ideas I was reading. (Just fyi -- I'm an older DCUM poster, white, Christian living in a large southern city and have many Jewish friends who work in same school system with me).

I reported at least one of those, as well as some profoundly racist anti-Muslim commentary. This is going to be a rough few days for Jeff.

PP here. Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:Nikki Haley says this is an an attack on the USA.

I strongly support Israel but wtf?!? It’s not our war. We support Israel as an ally. Neocon trash.

I’m so sick of the American rightwing trying to make this about us. It’s so f#cking gross to try to recenter an barbaric attack on Israeli civilians on American domestic political point scoring. These people are shameless, craven, power hungry toads. The attacks were still on going and they had more to say about Joe Biden than the Israeli victims.

It’s absurd and so damn egotistical.

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#NotJournalism.

I can’t imagine any good Palestinian person volunteering to go on cnn to defend the Hamas attack or engage in whataboutism to justify an act of terror. And cnn obviously won’t bring Hamas sympathizers on tv. And why should they?

This is indefensible.

I think you might want to distinguish the past human rights abuses, land grab, etc. from what Hamas just did. They kidnapped women and children. They slaughtered a German tourist. Separate the past from the present and get on the right side of history.

The past IS the present. The past is happening. It never stopped. Israel doesn't get to say "nothing we did up until this point matters."

Disagree.

Your line of thinking seemingly absolves Bin Laden and the 9/11 terrorists by placing shared responsibility (at best) on the US for prior action in the Middle East. And that’s obviously ridiculous, right?

Here’s what is going to happen: all the Free Palestine people in the US, Europe, and other civilized nations will realize the atrocities committed by Hamas against women and children simply can’t be justified. They’ll quietly retreat. The only people voicing support for Hamas and Palestine will be terrorists: Hezbollah, Taliban, and religious extremists who clearly aren’t defending human rights.

I am sorry to be the one to tell you but the world doesn't feel nearly as much outrage about this as you think.

Just wait until more videos come out. Have you seen the kidnapped civilians? The kids? The young girls?

People will be outraged.

They ARE seeing them, and they're NOT outraged. Every comment section I see under one of these videos is 90% pro-Hamas/anti-Israel.

Are they Arabs? Muslims?

Figures. It’s a numbers game and they are everywhere.

But they don’t wield power…which is why they resort to terror.

Well it's online so I don't know. But all the white people I know are anti-Israel.

Only the ones who watch msnbc

No, pretty much all of them. My peer group is highly educated, very progressive and very self-loathing, and completely buy into the notion that Israel is a white, colonialist, super rich apartheid country.

Your peers are being kind, based on the comments I am reading on the Jerusalem Post I’d call the Israeli Jews savages.

The “savages” are the ones who kidnapped a little boy, and brought him into Gaza. Imagine the night he is having, and hang your head in shame:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1710811394348552276?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710811394348552276%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Don’t care. How many Palestinian boys have been kidnapped, tortured and killed by the IDF? Israel regularly kidnaps children and tortures them in military prisons. You should actually kill yourself for thinking anyone needs to care about dead Israeli settlers. Israelis only understand violence.

Hamas sent their brightest light to engage with us on DCUM tonight?

+1 And it shows the thinking of some of the DCUM posters who post here.

If you're just reading that person's posts now, let me tell you at least several posts where he called us "lying Jews" (maybe also filthy Jews or stinking Jews? I think there were other adjectives) have already been removed.

PP here. I was up late last night and did read them. I responded to none of them but will admit I was shocked (actually, more than shocked and horrified) at the thoughts and ideas I was reading. (Just fyi -- I'm an older DCUM poster, white, Christian living in a large southern city and have many Jewish friends who work in same school system with me).

Thank you. By the way, your Jewish colleagues might appreciate an expression of sympathy. My colleagues here in DC who usually have a lot to say very loudly about "ally action" have been silent.

My sympathy is for civilians on both sides. In the end my guess is far more Palestinian civilians will die than Israelis and they will get far less attention/support after this ends.

Then perhaps they should overthrow Hamas? Perhaps the Palestinians should take out Hamas?

Perhaps the Russian citizens should overthrow Putin, the madman who sent their sons to war?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m no lover of Hamas, but it’s really hard to take the Israel defenders seriously when they won’t acknowledge that perhaps Palestinians have some legitimate gripes with their treatment.

That totes justifies kidnapping of women and children, raping and killing them. Totes

No one said it did. But it shows Israel is not the blameless victim it makes itself out to be. Both sides are awful.

Oh stop with your idiotic “both sides” nonsense. People in this thread have been asking repeatedly for videos showing the same level of barbarism shown to the young Jewish women yesterday (and probably more coming out today). All you “both sides” people claim that these videos exist, that the Israelis sexually assault and degrade the corpses of young Palestinian women on the regular. But of course, the “both sides” people can’t provide any links because those videos don’t exist. The Israelis do not rape young Palestinian women, drag their corpse afterwards into the street, and desecrate the corpse. They don’t use sexual assault of women as a tool of war. This is on ONE side, and you look like a moron for not being able to see the plain truth. Use your head for once.

Oh yes the body count of Palestinian dead every year, including children, is all a big misunderstanding.

There were no credible reports of rape that I read.

this antisemite wants a video of a rape of an Israeli so he can pleasure himself to it

I’m supposed to believe something happened just bc you say so?