
PP here. I was up late last night and did read them. I responded to none of them but will admit I was shocked (actually, more than shocked and horrified) at the thoughts and ideas I was reading. (Just fyi -- I'm an older DCUM poster, white, Christian living in a large southern city and have many Jewish friends who work in same school system with me). |
Oh stop with your idiotic “both sides” nonsense. People in this thread have been asking repeatedly for videos showing the same level of barbarism shown to the young Jewish women yesterday (and probably more coming out today). All you “both sides” people claim that these videos exist, that the Israelis sexually assault and degrade the corpses of young Palestinian women on the regular. But of course, the “both sides” people can’t provide any links because those videos don’t exist. The Israelis do not rape young Palestinian women, drag their corpse afterwards into the street, and desecrate the corpse. They don’t use sexual assault of women as a tool of war. This is on ONE side, and you look like a moron for not being able to see the plain truth. Use your head for once. |
This shouldn't surprise anyone. |
I guess if you live in the land of either/or, this is true. Sinn Fein and the IRA waged a terror campaign. So did the Zionists in the Palestinian Mandate. They had legitimate grievances even though they did indefensible things. The issue is that Palestinians have legitimate grievances, unsolvable without Israel's cooperation. And yet a faction of Palestinians, Hamas, is using terror to address them. Here is a good backgrounder on Hamas: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hamas if you care to understand who they are and what they think. In case you are unable/unwilling to go beyond that, and you just want to know my "bias" to decide which camp I belong in, I have spent much time in Israel working with Israelis. I have incredible respect for what they have done, and the necessity of what they have done, to ensure the survival of the Jewish people. I have even worked with someone who went on to be, briefly, PM of Israel. And yet I also believe that Israel has put Palestinians in an untenable economic and political position, has violated their legitimate political rights, sometimes violates their human rights, and through their settlement policy continues to make peace more and more difficult by design. The essential problem within Israel is that unless it negotiates a peace, it ends up looking like Apartheid- where Palestinians are a majority but have no equal rights. I believe Palestinians and Israelis have both made mistakes that cost opportunities for a lasting peace, but I hope that they can get there once again. I detest Hamas, but I believe that Israel's efforts to undermine the rival Fatah party, a credible negotiating party for peace, directly resulted in the rise of Hamas. |
Slava Ukraina! Slava Israel! |
lol thanks for amplifying the Israeli cause: as much Palestinian land as possible with as few Palestinians as possible. |
So what is your solution? I’m listening. |
And what is your solution? |
I am not that poster but Israelis engage in lots of horrible behavior towards Palestinians, including shooting kids. Suggesting that Israel is blameless and Palestinians as a group are barbaric/subhuman is idiotic and disgraceful. |
I reported at least one of those, as well as some profoundly racist anti-Muslim commentary. This is going to be a rough few days for Jeff. |
More than Three million Palestinians live in Jordan. Two-hundred ten thousand live in Lebanon. Other Palestinian refugees live in Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Syria, Libya and Kuwait. A hand few live in Iraq and Iraq and Egypt. |
Thank you. By the way, your Jewish colleagues might appreciate an expression of sympathy. My colleagues here in DC who usually have a lot to say very loudly about "ally action" have been silent. |
Us should send troops or at least strategic bomb |
Oh yes the body count of Palestinian dead every year, including children, is all a big misunderstanding. There were no credible reports of rape that I read. |
You are misinformed. Arabs and Muslims make up a sizeable minority within Israel and live peacefully with everyone else. |