Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:So is this hospital incident the flame that’s going to cause BLM/George Floyd nationwide protests this weekend like summer of 2020?


Israel is lost . Most Gen Z in the West have Muslim friends who were born and grew up here since their parents had to you know emigrate.

How stupid can one country be to not realize the tides were always shifting to Palestinian sympathy even during the last Gaza war in 2014? Remember the flotilla and divest from Israel campaigns ?

They should’ve seen the left’s pro Palestinian slant burgeoning years and years ago

Man, you are profoundly out of touch.

I’m not profoundly out of touch. I’m profoundly anxious.

This situation is getting scarier and scarier by the minute and is a powder keg.

Putin would love nothing more than to see the West divide over Israel vs Palestine and that’s what is likely to happen since both our president and Israel’s keep making dumb decisions that are helping Putin and Hamas

Your anxiety is telling you if Israel is destroyed, the terrorism stops. Unfortunately for all who believe this, you will get a huge dose of reality

What? I am pro-Israel surviving.

Israeli and Zionist arrogance and tunnel vision has not helped Israel. Pay attention to the room. It’s changed . You can keep saying most America is overwhelmingly pro Israel but from my vantage point that’s not true.

Americans are notoriously wishy washy and go with the wind and Israel being popular among Americans is only true among boomers and those over 35.

Academia is very left wing now. All across the country, there were pro Palestinian rallies this week even in Texas and harassment of Jewish students. I know some that have withdrawn

Pay attention . This is a very dangerous situation

I'm the PP and I agree with you. What I'm saying is that those who are against Israel are doing it out of a deep down fear, i.e. I understand the terrorists so they won't hurt me. What I'm saying is that Israel and Jews aren't their larger goal.

I disagree. I don’t think it’s fear of Hamas driving people to protest . I think it’s global sympathy. Americans love a bandwagon and hashtag activism so for some it’s probably just as simple as that. Some are anti Semites. Some are Jewish lefties with Palestine guilt, or fear of retribution , or just general hatred of right wing Israel.

I don’t think we can fit all these people in one neat box as we see today-many of the protesters who stormed the Capitol were Jewish

JVP is like Messianic Judaism: very few actual Jews, lots of cosplay by non-Jews for optics.

That's pretty anti-Semitic. AIPAC doesn't like them because they air the dirty laundry. Calling them self-hating is one thing but denying their Judaism is a different level.

Not all are Jewish?

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

You have got to be kidding. The ME hates us because we have equal rights for women, lgbtq people are accepted, we are jewish, we don’t believe in public beheadings etc. Get a clue.

That’s a false assumption. They hate us because we blindly support Israel and they believe Israel massacres Palestinians .

They wouldn’t even immigrate to the US or Europe if we just left them alone and didn’t cause wars . They were perfectly fine in their region of the world and they were actually the peaceful region during WW1 and WW2 . Once a certain country was formed there, the region went haywire over loyalty for the Palestinian deaths

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Your old school position is fine, but your use of the term “chopping block” is awful.

Oh come on. You know it’s an expression. The Israeli people will be holding him accountable for this horrific breach of intelligence.

Yes. But the expression is not constructive.

Ok, fair enough. My apologies.

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Anonymous wrote:All because of the Big Lie. This is what happens when terrorists declare a Day of Unparalleled Anger.

This is what happens when you let terrorists walk across your border and you respond by targeting refugees convoys and hospitals. Wait till the ground war starts. That will break Egypt neutral support for Israel. You think this is not going to be a sh#t show all through the ME. There will be a total realignment, minimum a few assassinations of heads of state(Saudi and Egypt) and it will not favor Israel.

Now let’s talk about those leftist democrats, BLM and students who support Palestinians. Oh they are so evil and the cause of all these problems for Israel! If only we can silence those people everything will be fine.

Tunisia is a mess. Has been for a long while. I am sorry for the loss of the Torah, but these days of rage are mostly ridiculous spectacle.

The way American Jews feel about Israelis being slaughtered by Hamas is exactly how Muslims around the world feel about Palestinians being slaughtered by Israel.
You don’t understand their pain? It’s the same pain a Jewish person is feeling right now

They feel so badly that they won't help save the civilians still there. Give me a break

Save them how? Egypt tried and IDF bombed the Rafah crossing. America says sorry peeps, we can’t save tax paying American citizens in Gaza but we can send a ship and planes to Israel to ship American citizens out ASAP.

Do you think Tunisia wants to war with Israel so they can bomb Tunisian hospitals and children too?

People have been waiting at the Rafa border for days. Egypt could open it if they wanted to.

If they do, Israel would bomb the crossing again then go a bit further and accidentally bomb a nearby target in Egypt saying it was to bomb Hamas bunkers. The Egyptians know this.

Who knows? If this shitshow keeps continuing , I see worse escalation to continue and with the American presidents comments, he just endangered all our ambassadors in the Middle East with one single comment. Poor Anthony Blinken looked mortified

Egypt and Jordan said straight out they will not take in Palestinians. Did you not know about that, or do you just want to speculate about what Israel would do, like you are deciding on which move to make in a video game?

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Anonymous wrote:So is this hospital incident the flame that’s going to cause BLM/George Floyd nationwide protests this weekend like summer of 2020?


Israel is lost . Most Gen Z in the West have Muslim friends who were born and grew up here since their parents had to you know emigrate.

How stupid can one country be to not realize the tides were always shifting to Palestinian sympathy even during the last Gaza war in 2014? Remember the flotilla and divest from Israel campaigns ?

They should’ve seen the left’s pro Palestinian slant burgeoning years and years ago

Man, you are profoundly out of touch.

I’m not profoundly out of touch. I’m profoundly anxious.

This situation is getting scarier and scarier by the minute and is a powder keg.

Putin would love nothing more than to see the West divide over Israel vs Palestine and that’s what is likely to happen since both our president and Israel’s keep making dumb decisions that are helping Putin and Hamas

Your anxiety is telling you if Israel is destroyed, the terrorism stops. Unfortunately for all who believe this, you will get a huge dose of reality

What? I am pro-Israel surviving.

Israeli and Zionist arrogance and tunnel vision has not helped Israel. Pay attention to the room. It’s changed . You can keep saying most America is overwhelmingly pro Israel but from my vantage point that’s not true.

Americans are notoriously wishy washy and go with the wind and Israel being popular among Americans is only true among boomers and those over 35.

Academia is very left wing now. All across the country, there were pro Palestinian rallies this week even in Texas and harassment of Jewish students. I know some that have withdrawn

Pay attention . This is a very dangerous situation

I'm the PP and I agree with you. What I'm saying is that those who are against Israel are doing it out of a deep down fear, i.e. I understand the terrorists so they won't hurt me. What I'm saying is that Israel and Jews aren't their larger goal.

I disagree. I don’t think it’s fear of Hamas driving people to protest . I think it’s global sympathy. Americans love a bandwagon and hashtag activism so for some it’s probably just as simple as that. Some are anti Semites. Some are Jewish lefties with Palestine guilt, or fear of retribution , or just general hatred of right wing Israel.

I don’t think we can fit all these people in one neat box as we see today-many of the protesters who stormed the Capitol were Jewish

JVP is like Messianic Judaism: very few actual Jews, lots of cosplay by non-Jews for optics.

That's pretty anti-Semitic. AIPAC doesn't like them because they air the dirty laundry. Calling them self-hating is one thing but denying their Judaism is a different level.

No, it’s pretty true, actually. It’s membership is mostly non-Jews, and they have Jewish in their title to excuse some of the antisemitic nature of some of the rhetoric used by its members. I don’t like like AIPAC because they skew Republican, but think of JVP as the flip side of AIPAC - there is a place whether the radical right and the radical left meet.

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

This. Our one sided, heavy handed policy in the ME has led to complete disaster. The 20 year Iraq-Afg war accomplished nothing. The two countries are still in complete shambles and the Taliban is in power. We sank billions and, more importantly, lost thousands of Iraqi, Afghan, and US lives. Iran? Iranians overthrew the Shah and installed a Swiss educated lawyer, political, and writer who wanted to take their oil fields back. Not unreasonable given the US/UK were essentially stealing resources from an impoverished country. We staged a coups, removed Mosaddegh and put the widely unpopular Shah back in so he could continue to starve people while playing the role of Marie Antoinette. People got ANGRY and then came the revolution - which was FAR worse than anything Mosaddegh would've brought. And then we sheltered the Shah and we've had terrible relations with Iran ever since.

And the same scenario plays out in every ME country. We support Israel and their - let's face it - serious mistreatment of the Palestinian peoples which only breeds resentment and hate. The environments that our policies have fostered in the ME have been disastrous. And we haven't learned.

I did appreciate Obama trying to call out Israel for its HR violations, stop illegal settlements, etc. And boy did they turn on us quickly. They are not as strong of an ally as they like to pretend. As long as we support them 100% and keep sending money, they'll keep up the rouse but it is fragile.

Israel is poorly placed in the region. I'm not going to argue rights to exist. It does exist, and it fits unnaturally in the ME. It will spend the next 200 years at war with its larger and more populous neighbors if policy does not change.

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

You have got to be kidding. The ME hates us because we have equal rights for women, lgbtq people are accepted, we are jewish, we don’t believe in public beheadings etc. Get a clue.

That’s a false assumption. They hate us because we blindly support Israel and they believe Israel massacres Palestinians .

They wouldn’t even immigrate to the US or Europe if we just left them alone and didn’t cause wars . They were perfectly fine in their region of the world and they were actually the peaceful region during WW1 and WW2 . Once a certain country was formed there, the region went haywire over loyalty for the Palestinian deaths

They were massacring Jews in that part of the world long before Israel. I get you don’t like Jews, but rewriting history doesn’t really help your argument.

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

Let me guess, you're a "queers for Palestine" type who thinks that if Israel just ceased to exist the whole world would get along.

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So sad.

You have to not be human to not cry.

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

Let me guess, you're a "queers for Palestine" type who thinks that if Israel just ceased to exist the whole world would get along.

Oh my God. I never said Israel should cease to exist but as a tax payer I have a right to criticize where my taxes are being spent and I don’t want it being spent on indiscriminately bombing and traumatizing civilians whether it’s in Palestine, Iraq, or Afghanistan .

That doesn’t make me a terror or Hamas sympathiser. It makes me a human being with a heart and a conscience for anyone especially children that die.

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

You have got to be kidding. The ME hates us because we have equal rights for women, lgbtq people are accepted, we are jewish, we don’t believe in public beheadings etc. Get a clue.

That’s a false assumption. They hate us because we blindly support Israel and they believe Israel massacres Palestinians .

They wouldn’t even immigrate to the US or Europe if we just left them alone and didn’t cause wars . They were perfectly fine in their region of the world and they were actually the peaceful region during WW1 and WW2 . Once a certain country was formed there, the region went haywire over loyalty for the Palestinian deaths

They were massacring Jews in that part of the world long before Israel. I get you don’t like Jews, but rewriting history doesn’t really help your argument.

And Jews were massacring Palestinians in 1948 not even five years after the Holocaust.

The accusation of anti semitism is trite and is always the defense mechanism for AIPAC stalwarts -even against other Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

You have got to be kidding. The ME hates us because we have equal rights for women, lgbtq people are accepted, we are jewish, we don’t believe in public beheadings etc. Get a clue.

That’s a false assumption. They hate us because we blindly support Israel and they believe Israel massacres Palestinians .

They wouldn’t even immigrate to the US or Europe if we just left them alone and didn’t cause wars . They were perfectly fine in their region of the world and they were actually the peaceful region during WW1 and WW2 . Once a certain country was formed there, the region went haywire over loyalty for the Palestinian deaths

People like you actually make me, a Jew, fantasize about us being wiped off the planet, just to imagine the moment when you realize how f--cked you are that you got what you wished for.

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So sad.

You have to not be human to not cry.

Hamas and many of the Israel political elite are psychopaths. And almost all men. They don’t care about this boy.

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Hamas was called out by Fatah as being a terrorist organization in 2007.

Urged Gaza residents to overthrow Hamas as they were terrorizing Gaza residents back then.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/16/israel