demoralized in MCPS

[Anonymous]

Churn and burn those teachers and everyone loses. If respect is valued and teachers are supported they will not find the profession hopeless. The problem is everyone from the boe, mcea, and you administrators has no respect for teachers and it shows in the data. Principals need to be held accountable for the toxicity that they create with pitting everyone against teachers and blaming them like they are not on the same team as teachers with the same goals.

[Anonymous]

I actually have fantastic elementary administrators but it's all the behavior policies and lack of parental support that are the true soul crushers. As much as I love my kids, they shouldn't be allowed to throw things, cuss me out, elope, fight etc. when they get upset or can't get their way. They are sent right back to my room 30min later to repeat the same behaviors. It used to be that you would maybe have one really tough kid each year at the elementary level. Now kids who were on the cusp join the bandwagon because there are literally no consequences.

[Anonymous]

I think teachers need the job security and protection from the union because without it administrators might fire a teacher if kids have challenges and act like they are solving the problem. Most teachers work hard and dint deserve to be treated like the reason for the world's problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually have fantastic elementary administrators but it's all the behavior policies and lack of parental support that are the true soul crushers. As much as I love my kids, they shouldn't be allowed to throw things, cuss me out, elope, fight etc. when they get upset or can't get their way. They are sent right back to my room 30min later to repeat the same behaviors. It used to be that you would maybe have one really tough kid each year at the elementary level. Now kids who were on the cusp join the bandwagon because there are literally no consequences.

What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually have fantastic elementary administrators but it's all the behavior policies and lack of parental support that are the true soul crushers. As much as I love my kids, they shouldn't be allowed to throw things, cuss me out, elope, fight etc. when they get upset or can't get their way. They are sent right back to my room 30min later to repeat the same behaviors. It used to be that you would maybe have one really tough kid each year at the elementary level. Now kids who were on the cusp join the bandwagon because there are literally no consequences.

What?

I also have/had a 4th grader who throws a fit and will run out of the classroom and just sprint through the halls until he's basically cornered by administration/counselor/RS/SDT, etc. and deescalated. He's typically brought to the office to talk and then comes back and does no work. At my friend's school, she had three 4th grade boys who literally just ran in and out of her portable all afternoon. Sometimes they would hang on the ramp. Other times they would wrestle in the grass outside or try and barge in on the neighboring portable's classroom. Her principal got to the point where they had to camp out between the portables and even then the kids did whatever they wanted. Parents stopped answering the phone calls from school. During COVID these same kids didn't attend class but could be found playing basketball together on the school's blacktop. If the general public knew how batshit crazy public schools have become they would probably all homeschool. I understand the school to prison pipeline, but removing all consequences for students (i.e. - no suspensions) sends the message that it is a free for all. Making it okay for parents to just ignore school's pleas for a partnership is also ridiculous. That being said, 90% of the students are respectful and eager to learn (most of the time LOL). It's unfortunate that the other 10% occupy 100% of our attention and are detrimental to our physical and mental well-being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually have fantastic elementary administrators but it's all the behavior policies and lack of parental support that are the true soul crushers. As much as I love my kids, they shouldn't be allowed to throw things, cuss me out, elope, fight etc. when they get upset or can't get their way. They are sent right back to my room 30min later to repeat the same behaviors. It used to be that you would maybe have one really tough kid each year at the elementary level. Now kids who were on the cusp join the bandwagon because there are literally no consequences.

What?

I also have/had a 4th grader who throws a fit and will run out of the classroom and just sprint through the halls until he's basically cornered by administration/counselor/RS/SDT, etc. and deescalated. He's typically brought to the office to talk and then comes back and does no work. At my friend's school, she had three 4th grade boys who literally just ran in and out of her portable all afternoon. Sometimes they would hang on the ramp. Other times they would wrestle in the grass outside or try and barge in on the neighboring portable's classroom. Her principal got to the point where they had to camp out between the portables and even then the kids did whatever they wanted. Parents stopped answering the phone calls from school. During COVID these same kids didn't attend class but could be found playing basketball together on the school's blacktop. If the general public knew how batshit crazy public schools have become they would probably all homeschool. I understand the school to prison pipeline, but removing all consequences for students (i.e. - no suspensions) sends the message that it is a free for all. Making it okay for parents to just ignore school's pleas for a partnership is also ridiculous. That being said, 90% of the students are respectful and eager to learn (most of the time LOL). It's unfortunate that the other 10% occupy 100% of our attention and are detrimental to our physical and mental well-being.

And this is one of the hundred reasons I homeschool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually have fantastic elementary administrators but it's all the behavior policies and lack of parental support that are the true soul crushers. As much as I love my kids, they shouldn't be allowed to throw things, cuss me out, elope, fight etc. when they get upset or can't get their way. They are sent right back to my room 30min later to repeat the same behaviors. It used to be that you would maybe have one really tough kid each year at the elementary level. Now kids who were on the cusp join the bandwagon because there are literally no consequences.

What?

I also have/had a 4th grader who throws a fit and will run out of the classroom and just sprint through the halls until he's basically cornered by administration/counselor/RS/SDT, etc. and deescalated. He's typically brought to the office to talk and then comes back and does no work. At my friend's school, she had three 4th grade boys who literally just ran in and out of her portable all afternoon. Sometimes they would hang on the ramp. Other times they would wrestle in the grass outside or try and barge in on the neighboring portable's classroom. Her principal got to the point where they had to camp out between the portables and even then the kids did whatever they wanted. Parents stopped answering the phone calls from school. During COVID these same kids didn't attend class but could be found playing basketball together on the school's blacktop. If the general public knew how batshit crazy public schools have become they would probably all homeschool. I understand the school to prison pipeline, but removing all consequences for students (i.e. - no suspensions) sends the message that it is a free for all. Making it okay for parents to just ignore school's pleas for a partnership is also ridiculous. That being said, 90% of the students are respectful and eager to learn (most of the time LOL). It's unfortunate that the other 10% occupy 100% of our attention and are detrimental to our physical and mental well-being.

And this is one of the hundred reasons I homeschool.

What is one of the hundred reasons why you are still posting on this board since you don’t have kids in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually have fantastic elementary administrators but it's all the behavior policies and lack of parental support that are the true soul crushers. As much as I love my kids, they shouldn't be allowed to throw things, cuss me out, elope, fight etc. when they get upset or can't get their way. They are sent right back to my room 30min later to repeat the same behaviors. It used to be that you would maybe have one really tough kid each year at the elementary level. Now kids who were on the cusp join the bandwagon because there are literally no consequences.

What?

It means a kid with special needs who just runs off. Usually its a fight or flight thing when they get overwhelmed. Very difficult to manage without a 1:1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually have fantastic elementary administrators but it's all the behavior policies and lack of parental support that are the true soul crushers. As much as I love my kids, they shouldn't be allowed to throw things, cuss me out, elope, fight etc. when they get upset or can't get their way. They are sent right back to my room 30min later to repeat the same behaviors. It used to be that you would maybe have one really tough kid each year at the elementary level. Now kids who were on the cusp join the bandwagon because there are literally no consequences.

What?

It means a kid with special needs who just runs off. Usually its a fight or flight thing when they get overwhelmed. Very difficult to manage without a 1:1.

Yes, it could be a kid who is identified as a student with special needs but the one in my class is a general ed student who give zero F's and does whatever he wants.

[Anonymous]

Blue county, blue teachers union, years of dumbing down education.

Own it.

[Anonymous]

ED students typically have issues at home and enabling parents. The best schools can do is try to isolate them from each other or other difficult students. Groups of these students can bring down the morale of the whole school. I have seen it happen.

I don't find alternative programs very effective at any level. It seems like the goal is just to maintain the students and pass them along as best as possible. But by the time they get to 8th grade all of the enabling has created kids that are non-functional.

[Anonymous]

It seems administration's have no problem passing them along whether or not they meet the criteria to pass. They would rather fire a teacher than fail a student. The work and learning has no meaning when a school wants to look good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems administration's have no problem passing them along whether or not they meet the criteria to pass. They would rather fire a teacher than fail a student. The work and learning has no meaning when a school wants to look good.

I feel bad for the ED students. They are passed along for so long that, by the time they graduate, they do not have the academic skills to survive Montgomery College and they do not have the social skills to navigate relationships. We fail them on both levels.

[Anonymous]

LOL - not this again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL - not this again.

Why do people dig these old discussions up?

The forum version of necrophilia...