Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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^ CORRECTION. $SIXTY BILLION additional dollars on top of the billions already provided.

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The only monsters I see are Hamas. They dug up water pipes installed by aid organizations to build tunnels for weapons. They're still launching rockets into Tel Aviv. They use their people as shields and have no regard for innocent lives. More rage should be directed at them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand at all what the anti-Israel posters want. One state? Two? Status quo except open borders with Israel? What?

Two states with autonomy and control over their own areas by the Palestinians. Control on air, water, sea, natural resources. No settlements. No open air prisons controlled by another government. That's the only way FORWARD.

I'm not anti-Israel but this is what I want too. It is the only forward. I think there are many Jewish, Israel-loving people out there who feel the same. We're not all right wingers

I'll caveat by saying that the only way to get there is if the Palestinians accept the existence of Israel. That has been a key barrier to reaching a peace deal.

You can just as easily flip it and say the only way to get there is if Israel accepts the existence of Palestine. That has been a key barrier to reaching a peace deal. Both statements are equally true. Even the most generous Israeli offer never granted Palestine real independence, and that's not even addressing the borders

1948?

Palestinians HAD a state and their leadership threw it away.

They’ve been doubling down (and losing) ever since.

One of the greatest mistakes in history.

1948 was a long time ago and the history is not as clear cut as you make it sound. Both side were in a state of war, not just the Palestinians

C’mon. I strongly favor a 2-state solution, but there’s no serious argument about why we don’t have two states.

Palestinian leadership has been a complete disaster, with horrific results for the Palestinian people.

75 years of suffering, all for nothing.

Speaking the truth about this is the only way forward.

Lol two state solution is gone. It’s a one state solution now. Let’s be completely honest here Israel government is a total and complete disaster. Look where they have left Israel. There is no guarantee Israel will survive this if hezbollah attacks a week or two in to the Gaza invasion. What does the clown show Israeli government do after letting battalion and company size units cross unopposed in to Israel? They start bombing refugees convoys and hospitals. Yes that hospital was a fuel air bomb and those do not leave craters.

If Israel survive this all the normalization of relationships with other countries in the region will be gone. The IDF is a shadow of what it was and Israeli intelligence is non existent. That is thanks to arrogance of Israel elected government. The pressure from the US, UN and the world to forcefully remove settlements will make the new Israeli government to collapse.

All of this because Israelis elected RWNJs. They plotted, bedded down with terrorists, increase settlements, pushed annexation of occupied territories, etc, etc to stop a two state solution. Start dealing in reality- there is no two state solution.

Exactly. There is no two state solution that makes sense. Gaza and West Bank don’t even share a border. How in the world can they be a functioning nation! How can Israel trust and be safe with two independent Palestinian states on their sides ? They can’t!

One state solution where all the Israeli and Palestinian kids under 5 learn that the other side aren’t animals is the only way to erase the poison and venom the adults have placed in their hearts

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Anonymous wrote:The only monsters I see are Hamas. They dug up water pipes installed by aid organizations to build tunnels for weapons. They're still launching rockets into Tel Aviv. They use their people as shields and have no regard for innocent lives. More rage should be directed at them.

Much easier to be a west bank settler knowing that you can kill Palestinians with impunity and if they dare fight back, the army will intervene on your behalf

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Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

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Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

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Anonymous wrote:The only monsters I see are Hamas. They dug up water pipes installed by aid organizations to build tunnels for weapons. They're still launching rockets into Tel Aviv. They use their people as shields and have no regard for innocent lives. More rage should be directed at them.

Indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:The only monsters I see are Hamas. They dug up water pipes installed by aid organizations to build tunnels for weapons. They're still launching rockets into Tel Aviv. They use their people as shields and have no regard for innocent lives. More rage should be directed at them.

You may feel anger, despair and rage towards Israel and demand that Israel follow the civilized "rules of war" and/or be accountable when they don't. I agree it's 100% correct to hold a Western aligned nation to the highest standards because we are civilized, even when that is used against us. However, if you are not directing rage at Hamas and terrorist methods, you don't care about Israelis OR Palestinians. If you are not directing rage at Hamas today, you are Hamas.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

“It’s not pretty much a given” that it was a Hamas rocket. The IDF shills can’t even keep the same script. Some are saying it’s PIJ not Hamas, and others are saying the hospital was warned ahead of time, and others are saying it wasn’t the hospital but the parking lot of the hospital. Why minimize the strike if Israel didn’t do it?

There’s no point in talking about it because Israel bombed the journalists in Gaza and Lebanon and scared them off and the American president already said he believes the Israeli “intelligence” on the matter

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

Right, but it’s just easy to shrug and move on to the next anti-Israel thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

If Hamas drags the West into war, and Palestinians try to play both sides, it will be very difficult for me to have any sympathy for Palestinians ever again.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

Pro Palestine supporters did not “bring up” the hospital yesterday. The story went viral because it came from the horse’s mouth.

Hananya Naftali. Blame him for being stupid enough to tweet it. Israel backtracked and deleted the tweets and Facebook brags when they saw that everyone around the world was mortified
And NOT ok with a hospital bombing.

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Doctors Without Borders, no fan of Israel, should advise Hamas and Islamic Jihad to not fire rockets near hospitals, as a matter of ethics and humanity.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

Pro Palestine supporters did not “bring up” the hospital yesterday. The story went viral because it came from the horse’s mouth.

Hananya Naftali. Blame him for being stupid enough to tweet it. Israel backtracked and deleted the tweets and Facebook brags when they saw that everyone around the world was mortified
And NOT ok with a hospital bombing.

More foolishness. Israel didn’t do it. Move on.