Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

“It’s not pretty much a given” that it was a Hamas rocket. The IDF shills can’t even keep the same script. Some are saying it’s PIJ not Hamas, and others are saying the hospital was warned ahead of time, and others are saying it wasn’t the hospital but the parking lot of the hospital. Why minimize the strike if Israel didn’t do it?

There’s no point in talking about it because Israel bombed the journalists in Gaza and Lebanon and scared them off and the American president already said he believes the Israeli “intelligence” on the matter

Potato, potahto. Islamic Jihad is just an extremist offshoot of Hamas, just as Hamas is an extremist offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Still doesn't change anything.

The "hospital was warned ahead of time" is bogus because it was a general evacuation order for the entirety of northern Gaza, not one that was specifically targeting the hospital.

And as for "why minimize it" that's also bogus because it's NOT being minimized. It was grossly EXAGGERATED by pro-Hamas factions, falsely claiming the entire building had collapsed and 500 were dead when now that the sun came up we can clearly see it was a parking lot. That makes it a pro-Hamas LIE, not a "minimization."

Just stop with your lies and bogus crap. You've been exposed and only continue to embarrass and disgrace yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

If Hamas drags the West into war, and Palestinians try to play both sides, it will be very difficult for me to have any sympathy for Palestinians ever again.

^ Adding on, I am fed up with bit dramatic acts of terrorism. I have had more than my fill in a lifetime. I am tired of war. I am completely burned out. There is no more that can be done to shock and appall me. It's all been done. The rubber hits the road with terrorism and hostage taking for me. You've burned me out. I've had my fill. I can't hear what you have to say or relate at that point. Choose to seek political solutions, or choose Hamas and terror. That is a road to nowhere though. And know that any double dealing and playing both sides is painfully obvious.

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What the hell is Biden doing? Hey Joe the USA called and wants it president back. Israel is not even an ally of the US.

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Anonymous wrote:The only monsters I see are Hamas. They dug up water pipes installed by aid organizations to build tunnels for weapons. They're still launching rockets into Tel Aviv. They use their people as shields and have no regard for innocent lives. More rage should be directed at them.

The CIA brought down many governments they didn’t like in South American countries. I don’t believe for one second that Israel with the billions of handouts they get that they are doing their best in wiping out Hamas.

Hamas was controllable before and if any fighting broke out Israel was able to crush it and mow down more Palestinians homes so that their extremist citizens could build homes on Palestinian land. And the hate continues.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

Pro Palestine supporters did not “bring up” the hospital yesterday. The story went viral because it came from the horse’s mouth.

Hananya Naftali. Blame him for being stupid enough to tweet it. Israel backtracked and deleted the tweets and Facebook brags when they saw that everyone around the world was mortified
And NOT ok with a hospital bombing.

More foolishness. Israel didn’t do it. Move on.

Why move on if Israel didn’t do it?

Shouldn’t Israel be shouting this story from the mountaintops if it’s truly Hamas activity? You want to move on and change the subject but it’s not going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

Oh I do not believe it was Hamas. It was Israel using a fuel air bomb. Biden is provide for cover for Israel because he know it is the only way Israel can survive the year. No one believes Biden. He is total obsessed with Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

If Hamas drags the West into war, and Palestinians try to play both sides, it will be very difficult for me to have any sympathy for Palestinians ever again.

^ Adding on, I am fed up with bit dramatic acts of terrorism. I have had more than my fill in a lifetime. I am tired of war. I am completely burned out. There is no more that can be done to shock and appall me. It's all been done. The rubber hits the road with terrorism and hostage taking for me. You've burned me out. I've had my fill. I can't hear what you have to say or relate at that point. Choose to seek political solutions, or choose Hamas and terror. That is a road to nowhere though. And know that any double dealing and playing both sides is painfully obvious.

You're tired of war? I can't think of a span of 20, 30, 50 years with less war in the US. We haven't had a draft in since 1973. The last war that we were involved a war with significant numbers of deaths was Vietnam. Not even 20 years prior to Vietnam (58k dead) with had Korea (36k dead) 5 years prior to Korea we had WWI (400k us dead) 20 years before that we had WWI (115k us dead). Both Iraq wars plus Afghanistan are less than 10k US Kia. This is the least was the US has experienced arguably ever

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

Right, but it’s just easy to shrug and move on to the next anti-Israel thing.

People like you make it really, really hard to be in Israel’s corner when you pretend away all the garbage stuff they do.

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell is Biden doing? Hey Joe the USA called and wants it president back. Israel is not even an ally of the US.

This is off the rails.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

The pro-Palestine propagandists certainly were trying to start WWIII... using lies about the hospital to try and instigate violent rioting at the embassies of countries supporting Israel in the hopes of another Benghazi.

Disgraceful.

It's sad to think I once had some sympathies for Palestine. With this Hamas BS, it's hard to keep that sympathy up.

Pro Palestine supporters did not “bring up” the hospital yesterday. The story went viral because it came from the horse’s mouth.

Hananya Naftali. Blame him for being stupid enough to tweet it. Israel backtracked and deleted the tweets and Facebook brags when they saw that everyone around the world was mortified
And NOT ok with a hospital bombing.

More foolishness. Israel didn’t do it. Move on.

Why move on if Israel didn’t do it?

Shouldn’t Israel be shouting this story from the mountaintops if it’s truly Hamas activity? You want to move on and change the subject but it’s not going to happen.

The evidence is out that Israel didn’t do it. Israel haters may not accept this fact, but it is the truth. I don’t understand how anyone could believe a terrorist organization. They have no regard for the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

It was 100% Israel. They lied and have falsifying evidence since yesterday. After years of them doing this very thing, we’ve become accustomed it. Will you apologize after a third party org releases a full report in 5 years, which is always how this works?

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell is Biden doing? Hey Joe the USA called and wants it president back. Israel is not even an ally of the US.

This is off the rails.

This is from The Atlantic

“I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction,” - Binyamin Netanyahu, in a just-released and secretly taped private meeting in 2001. He also reveals his approach to the Palestinians:

“beat them up, not once but repeatedly, beat them up so it hurts so badly, until it’s unbearable.”

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, I haven’t read through the 600 pages of this thread, so maybe it’s already been discussed, but is this gonna start WWIII ?

Possibly

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how, after all of the self-righteous shouting and accusing everyone of being liars, that discussion of the hospital is suddenly gone, now that it's pretty much a given it was a wayward Hamas rocket and NOT a cruel, intentional IDF strike as was claimed.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are.

Oh I do not believe it was Hamas. It was Israel using a fuel air bomb. Biden is provide for cover for Israel because he know it is the only way Israel can survive the year. No one believes Biden. He is total obsessed with Israel.

We get it. You are dug in and going to stake out your position regardless of what the evidence shows.

I find it interesting that all Hamas has done is said it came from Israel.... yet has provided no proof of that statement. None. Zero. Zilch.

Israel, instead of casting blame from the beginning, said they were investigating. Their investigation has presented video evidence, audio evidence, satellite evidence..... and much of that evidence is from sources that are NOT IDF or Israeli-affiliated groups. And, that evidence shows that the rocket came from within Gaza.

So, go ahead and continue to be ignorantly blind to evidence that proves it WASN'T Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand at all what the anti-Israel posters want. One state? Two? Status quo except open borders with Israel? What?

Two states with autonomy and control over their own areas by the Palestinians. Control on air, water, sea, natural resources. No settlements. No open air prisons controlled by another government. That's the only way FORWARD.

I'm not anti-Israel but this is what I want too. It is the only forward. I think there are many Jewish, Israel-loving people out there who feel the same. We're not all right wingers

I'll caveat by saying that the only way to get there is if the Palestinians accept the existence of Israel. That has been a key barrier to reaching a peace deal.

You can just as easily flip it and say the only way to get there is if Israel accepts the existence of Palestine. That has been a key barrier to reaching a peace deal. Both statements are equally true. Even the most generous Israeli offer never granted Palestine real independence, and that's not even addressing the borders

1948?

Palestinians HAD a state and their leadership threw it away.

They’ve been doubling down (and losing) ever since.

One of the greatest mistakes in history.

1948 was a long time ago and the history is not as clear cut as you make it sound. Both side were in a state of war, not just the Palestinians

C’mon. I strongly favor a 2-state solution, but there’s no serious argument about why we don’t have two states.

Palestinian leadership has been a complete disaster, with horrific results for the Palestinian people.

75 years of suffering, all for nothing.

Speaking the truth about this is the only way forward.

Lol two state solution is gone. It’s a one state solution now. Let’s be completely honest here Israel government is a total and complete disaster. Look where they have left Israel. There is no guarantee Israel will survive this if hezbollah attacks a week or two in to the Gaza invasion. What does the clown show Israeli government do after letting battalion and company size units cross unopposed in to Israel? They start bombing refugees convoys and hospitals. Yes that hospital was a fuel air bomb and those do not leave craters.

If Israel survive this all the normalization of relationships with other countries in the region will be gone. The IDF is a shadow of what it was and Israeli intelligence is non existent. That is thanks to arrogance of Israel elected government. The pressure from the US, UN and the world to forcefully remove settlements will make the new Israeli government to collapse.

All of this because Israelis elected RWNJs. They plotted, bedded down with terrorists, increase settlements, pushed annexation of occupied territories, etc, etc to stop a two state solution. Start dealing in reality- there is no two state solution.

Exactly. There is no two state solution that makes sense. Gaza and West Bank don’t even share a border. How in the world can they be a functioning nation! How can Israel trust and be safe with two independent Palestinian states on their sides ? They can’t!

One state solution where all the Israeli and Palestinian kids under 5 learn that the other side aren’t animals is the only way to erase the poison and venom the adults have placed in their hearts

Israel would never agree to a 2-state solution because Israel wants the West Bank and uniting the West Bank with Gaza means cutting through Israeli territory. No way would they agree to this unless they get to steal land from Syria or Lebanon. They have nowhere to go.