2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous
As a rhetorical question it’s obviously speculative as many if not most arguments on rankings are. However, as an actual question, I find it quite interesting. All else equal, where would an Ivy school rank if the actual Ivy sports league didn’t exist? College education is obviously so much about signaling / reputation and there are strong feedback loops - if high stat students go to a school other high stat students will apply and as that is part of the ranking it strengthens the quality of the signal / reputation. Would love to see Raj Chetty of Harvard address this question and provide a non-speculative answer. I would not bet too much on the league brand being insignificant, but I wouldn’t expect it too be that important either. But now I’m just speculating… |
Anonymous
Sorry here: https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/university-factbook/undergraduate-admissions |
Anonymous
If I lived in VA I would go to VaTech too. It’s a matter of economics. It’s not a matter of quality or desirability. |
Anonymous
| I think the new ranking makes sense |
Anonymous
Hitchen's razor states that which can be presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. |
Anonymous
23% acceptance rate, though. I had no idea. |
Anonymous
They are also perhaps less likely to be gaming it than administrators, who have more of a vested interest. |
Anonymous
Michigan is higher at the 75th percentile for the test most submit, the SAT. They are the same at the 50th and UVA is higher at the 25th. |
Anonymous
Bright Futures has no impact on acceptance; it's simply funding for whichever school you do get into. PP who lives in FL, UF is difficult to get into but there are plenty of other in-state options if your kid doesn't get in. |
Anonymous
Interesting. Berkeley got there without a medical school. The count would be higher if it had UC SF. MIT also has no medical school. Same Caltech. Caltech got to 25 top 10 with about 2,500 students. Princeton is something like 8,500 students and no medical school, law school, or business school. |
Anonymous
| Where’s Yale on this list? Surprised by their absence |
Anonymous
U Mich is truly wonderful for post grad studies … excellent quality of life also … |
Anonymous
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“ Interesting. Berkeley got there without a medical school. The count would be higher if it had UC SF.”
But it doesn’t and UCSF is a different school, so your point is meaningless. |
Anonymous
When I’m in undergrad I want faculty teaching. I also want to go somewhere else for grad school not stay in the same place- so I wouldn’t care about their post-grad. |
Anonymous
You guys completely missed my point. I was DEFENDING U of Michigan, by reconciling multiple facts that non-Michiganders never seem to be understand can all be simultaneously true: 1. The vast majority of Michiganders don’t know about U of Michigan’s national prestige. 2. Even among those who do know about that prestige, it often doesn’t translate into a desire to attend it, for reasons that include too big, too many lefties, expensive housing, prefer MSU, CMU, etc, no interest in educational prestige…. 3. Lots of people love the school & wear the gear for reasons that have nothing to do with academics or academic prestige. They like football, basketball, the colors blue & yellow, whatever. All of which adds up to a situation where millions wear the gear & bleed blue, but that doesn’t mean they all apply or want to attend. Ergo high in-state acceptance rate even though people love the school. |