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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are plenty of U of Mich boosters in Mich; the point is it’s generally not due to academic prestige. They like the sports, they like the sweatshirts, they put bumper stickers on their cars, & some even attend. A lot of alumni & some people from certain Detroit suburbs are totally aware of the prestige the university carries. But they are a fraction of the people wearing MICHIGAN tee shirts to the gym. Most of those in maize & blue clothing are the so-called “Wal-Mart Wolverines”: they like the sports, get their off-brand Michigan gear at big box stores, probably never set foot in An Arbor, & never heard of the USNews rankings.

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Isn't having broad appeal a positive thing? Schools like Michigan and Notre Dame (football) and Duke (basketball) have a ton of fans without a direct connection to the school but it makes the school even more appealing to a broader population of people. The elites still know Michigan is a great school and recruit there and that circle is not even close to just a "certain Detroitt suburbs" crowd. Michigan has highly ranked programs and grad schools in most departments.

My spouse is from Michigan but elected to go to what DCUM would call a USNWR T5 or whatever people are calling elite private schools these days. They are still a Michigan fan and wear "off-brand Michigan gear" on Saturdays. [/quote]

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The PP is very transparently jealous of Michigan and its elite status.  The over-the-top nastiness is sad but also kind of amusing.[/quote]

You guys completely missed my point. I was DEFENDING U of Michigan, by reconciling multiple facts that non-Michiganders never seem to be understand can all be simultaneously true:

1. The vast majority of Michiganders don’t know about U of Michigan’s national prestige.

2. Even among those who do know about that prestige, it often doesn’t translate into a desire to attend it, for reasons that include too big, too many lefties, expensive housing, prefer MSU, CMU, etc, no interest in educational prestige….

3. Lots of people love the school & wear the gear for reasons that have nothing to do with academics or academic prestige. They like football, basketball, the colors blue & yellow, whatever.

All of which adds up to a situation where millions wear the gear & bleed blue, but that doesn’t mean they all apply or want to attend. Ergo high in-state acceptance rate even though people love the school. 
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