Why are Communist memes acceptable, while Nazi symbols (rightfully) get you canceled

[Anonymous]

I was thinking of this while I went on a walk yesterday in Silver Spring. There was Che Guevara graffiti on the bike trail where I was walking. Che Guevara was a terrorist and a murderer.

Why is it that Communist symbols. The Hammer and Sickle, red stars, Che Guevara's face, and memes involving Lenin and Stalin are more socially acceptable than Nazi symbols when Communists killed more people?

I am not for allowing Nazi symbols. I think they are horrific. When swastika graffiti is found, local officials rightfully remove it, and it makes news as it is a hate symbol. Why aren't similar actions taken when it involves Communist imagery? Why is it that the cool kids today get to appropriate Soviet motifs in their memes, youtube videos, podcasts, and tiktoks, without any consequences? People here on DCUM are most likely grown adults who do not support Communism, and yet no one gets outraged at the youth who sympathize with communism (Not people who have any experience living in Communist Countries, they are like white kids from suburban Maryland or something) the way we get outraged and offended by Nazi and Fascist symbols?

[Anonymous]

No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.

Che Guevara is pretty in-your-face.

If I can, I always ask people wearing Che T shirts why the have a picture of “Hispanic Hitler” on their chest. Most are angry at being called out on it, which tells me they’re aware of his history rather than simply ignorant about it.

[Anonymous]

Some things in life aren’t fair.

But sure, try to normalize Nazi symbols and let us know how that goes for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.

Che Guevara is pretty in-your-face.

If I can, I always ask people wearing Che T shirts why the have a picture of “Hispanic Hitler” on their chest. Most are angry at being called out on it, which tells me they’re aware of his history rather than simply ignorant about it.

Honestly, this is a bad take and undermines the systematic ruthlessness of the Nazi regime. It’s just a dopey comparison that has no basis in fact, only in your feelings.

I’m not going to wear a Che shirt. But comparing him to Hitler truly undermines the severity of Hitler’s atrocities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.

Che Guevara is pretty in-your-face.

If I can, I always ask people wearing Che T shirts why the have a picture of “Hispanic Hitler” on their chest. Most are angry at being called out on it, which tells me they’re aware of his history rather than simply ignorant about it.

Honestly, this is a bad take and undermines the systematic ruthlessness of the Nazi regime. It’s just a dopey comparison that has no basis in fact, only in your feelings.

I’m not going to wear a Che shirt. But comparing him to Hitler truly undermines the severity of Hitler’s atrocities.

Stalin and Mao killed far more people than Hitler.... but Hitler lost the war. Who knows how many would have died had Nazi Germany won WWII.

I still think the evils are equal. Fascism/Nazism is more notably a threat because of the tide of white supremacy and far-right in Europe and among the right wing in the US, and communism is not as racialized. But Communists also committed genocide against Ukrainians and Jews, Uyghurs in China, among others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.

Che Guevara is pretty in-your-face.

If I can, I always ask people wearing Che T shirts why the have a picture of “Hispanic Hitler” on their chest. Most are angry at being called out on it, which tells me they’re aware of his history rather than simply ignorant about it.

You are full of it with that analogy. Che Guevara was radicalized by the CIA overthrowing reform governments and installing fascist regimes at the request of U.S. corporations. He was a revolutionary, not at all comparable to Hitler.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.

Che Guevara is pretty in-your-face.

If I can, I always ask people wearing Che T shirts why the have a picture of “Hispanic Hitler” on their chest. Most are angry at being called out on it, which tells me they’re aware of his history rather than simply ignorant about it.

Honestly, this is a bad take and undermines the systematic ruthlessness of the Nazi regime. It’s just a dopey comparison that has no basis in fact, only in your feelings.

I’m not going to wear a Che shirt. But comparing him to Hitler truly undermines the severity of Hitler’s atrocities.

Stalin and Mao killed far more people than Hitler.... but Hitler lost the war. Who knows how many would have died had Nazi Germany won WWII.

I still think the evils are equal. Fascism/Nazism is more notably a threat because of the tide of white supremacy and far-right in Europe and among the right wing in the US, and communism is not as racialized. But Communists also committed genocide against Ukrainians and Jews, Uyghurs in China, among others.

Absolutely. But we are talking about Che here. Did he commit systematic genocide? You're now moving the goalposts.

I think Che did some pretty horrific stuff in the ugly fog of war - mainly, the execution of hundreds of "traitors." The vast majority of those were his enemy on the battlefield. So yeah, war is ugly and makes normal men do horrible things. It's why we ought to avoid warfare. But pretty much every war has these types of incidents.

Generally, the rule for society is this:
1. You can promote it if you're 'punching up.'
2. You're going to get criticized, sometimes harshly, if you 'punching down.'

Now, this may have some weird implications. But it's generally how American society works. We love an underdog story. Hitler was NOT an underdog. Che was an underdog.

[Anonymous]

How many people have been killed by capitalism?

You can’t compare communism (political ideology) with the attempt to eradicate people based on their race.

[Anonymous]

Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

Communism is a philosophy that has some produced some good and some evil. Same with religion. Democracy. Capitalism.

Naziism is connected to a certain (mass-murdering) time in history.

They are different from one another in category.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

I'm sorry, did I miss the world war that Che Guevara pulled us into?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.

Wrong. CHE is a popular meme among the left. The left loves to flat out embrace communism with communist symbols even though far leftist ideology like communism killed even more people than nazism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

I'm sorry, did I miss the world war that Che Guevara pulled us into?

Che Guevara Thanks the United States for the Bay of Pigs Invasion
https://unredacted.com/2012/02/03/document-friday-che-guevara-thanks-the-united-states-for-the-bay-of-pigs-invasion/

At 2:00 AM on 22 August 1961 White House aid Dick Goodwin met with Che Guevara at cocktail party after the Inter-American Economic and Social Council conference in Punta del Este, Uruguay. Che wore his “green fatigues, and his usual overgrown and scraggly beard.” Guevara spoke “calmly and in a straightforward manner,” and the discussion ranged from the possibility of a modus vivendi between Cuba and the US; to the need for the Kennedy administration to understand the Cuban Revolution; to an analysis of Fidel Castro’s psyche; to the the Cuban economic policy on its island and throughout Latin America; to Guantanamo Bay; and even about various plane thefts.

... Then, as their conversation wound down, Guevara “went on to say that he wanted to thank us [the United States] very much for the invasion –that it had been a great political victory for them– enabled them to consolidate — and transformed them from an aggrieved little country to an equal.”