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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No one is excusing either, but the Nazisim is in your face in a way that other symbols just aren't, historically or otherwise.[/quote]

Che Guevara is pretty in-your-face.

If I can, I always ask people wearing Che T shirts why the have a picture of “Hispanic Hitler” on their chest. Most are angry at being called out on it, which tells me they’re aware of his history rather than simply ignorant about it. [/quote]

Honestly, this is a bad take and undermines the systematic ruthlessness of the Nazi regime. It’s just a dopey comparison that has no basis in fact, only in your feelings.

I’m not going to wear a Che shirt. But comparing him to Hitler truly undermines the severity of Hitler’s atrocities.[/quote]

Stalin and Mao killed far more people than Hitler.... but Hitler lost the war. Who knows how many would have died had Nazi Germany won WWII.

I still think the evils are equal. Fascism/Nazism is more notably a threat because of the tide of white supremacy and far-right in Europe and among the right wing in the US, and communism is not as racialized. [b]But Communists also committed genocide against Ukrainians and Jews, Uyghurs in China, among others.[/b] [/quote]

Absolutely. But we are talking about Che here. Did he commit systematic genocide? You're now moving the goalposts.

I think Che did some pretty horrific stuff in the ugly fog of war - mainly, the execution of hundreds of "traitors." The vast majority of those were his enemy on the battlefield. So yeah, war is ugly and makes normal men do horrible things. It's why we ought to avoid warfare. But pretty much every war has these types of incidents.

Generally, the rule for society is this:
1. You can promote it if you're 'punching up.'
2. You're going to get criticized, sometimes harshly, if you 'punching down.'

Now, this may have some weird implications. But it's generally how American society works. We love an underdog story. Hitler was NOT an underdog. Che was an underdog. [/quote]

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