Why are Communist memes acceptable, while Nazi symbols (rightfully) get you canceled

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Communists are even worse than Nazis.

Sorry about this:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Communism is a cult religion that almost always inevitably causes its practitioners to commit mass murder. Every. Single. Time. More deaths were caused by communism than all of the world wars combined.

That's not historically accurate. The Sandinistas did not become mass murderers. They may have been guilty of human rights violations, but not mass murder. Cuba is guilty of human rights abuses but the number of executions was about 4,000 including enemy combatants. Vietnam post civil war did not commit mass murder.

[Anonymous]

Imagine if Stalin had Gulaged the Confederacy.

[Anonymous]

If Communism was so successful I would expect there to be growth besides the PRC, Vietnam, Lao, and Cuba. Outside of that I just see a bunch of naval gazing old left over hippies and young, incredibly ignorant idealists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

Communism is a philosophy that has some produced some good and some evil. Same with religion. Democracy. Capitalism.

Naziism is connected to a certain (mass-murdering) time in history.

They are different from one another in category.

I disagree. Communism and fascism are both political philosophies which have produced outcomes inferior to freedom. Both have resulted in mass slavery and mass murder, where communism actually has a worse record than fascism. Not all fascist regimes resulted in identical outcomes (Italy and Spain were less murderous than Germany for example), and not all communist regimes were equally brutal either - but in the end slavery is the logical endpoint of all totalitarian political systems whether communist or fascist - it is merely a question of how long any individual incarnation takes to arrive at the endpoint. And murder is a necessary colleague of slavery - both initially of all those unwilling to submit to slavery and then subsequently "pour encourager les autres".

Hitler was no better or worse than Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot - and all should be reviled equally.

It's also worth noting that the USA did not escape these ideologies and implemented a sort of fascism-lite over the early part of the twentieth century - FDR especially seemed inclined in this direction. Culturally the US proved more resistant, and for much longer, to the bad ideas but we have arguably reached full blown fascism today and we may well be getting close to the mass murder stage. I hope I am wrong about this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Communism is a cult religion that almost always inevitably causes its practitioners to commit mass murder. Every. Single. Time. More deaths were caused by communism than all of the world wars combined.

Vietnam post civil war did not commit mass murder.

Hmmm - I don't think that is a reasonable distinction. Vietnam did not commit mass muder once they had finished killing everyone who disagreed with them? Most of the bloodbaths happen during the period of acquisition and consolidation of pwoer. Once the institutions of slavery are firmly in place, the amount of killing can be scaled back although the threat always remains and is usually sufficient by itself.

The Sandanistas are interesting because, despite theuir rhetoric, they did not insititute communism. They nationalized a handful of large corporations but largely left small and medium sized businesses in private hands. Hence no slavery and therefore no need to murder people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Communism was so successful I would expect there to be growth besides the PRC, Vietnam, Lao, and Cuba. Outside of that I just see a bunch of naval gazing old left over hippies and young, incredibly ignorant idealists.

Watch some foxnews I'm told the communists are going to cancel you and give you infrastructure and health care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

Communism is a philosophy that has some produced some good and some evil. Same with religion. Democracy. Capitalism.

Naziism is connected to a certain (mass-murdering) time in history.

They are different from one another in category.

I disagree. Communism and fascism are both political philosophies which have produced outcomes inferior to freedom. Both have resulted in mass slavery and mass murder, where communism actually has a worse record than fascism. Not all fascist regimes resulted in identical outcomes (Italy and Spain were less murderous than Germany for example), and not all communist regimes were equally brutal either - but in the end slavery is the logical endpoint of all totalitarian political systems whether communist or fascist - it is merely a question of how long any individual incarnation takes to arrive at the endpoint. And murder is a necessary colleague of slavery - both initially of all those unwilling to submit to slavery and then subsequently "pour encourager les autres".

Hitler was no better or worse than Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot - and all should be reviled equally.

It's also worth noting that the USA did not escape these ideologies and implemented a sort of fascism-lite over the early part of the twentieth century - FDR especially seemed inclined in this direction. Culturally the US proved more resistant, and for much longer, to the bad ideas but we have arguably reached full blown fascism today and we may well be getting close to the mass murder stage. I hope I am wrong about this.

I really like your historical analysis that calls communism and fascism resulting in "mass slavery" and then think that the U.S. avoided this....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many people has capitalism killed?

Well we firebombed every city in North Korea and killed 1.5 million civilians. Does that count?

We also wiped out Native American populations and stole their land. And enslaved Africans. All in the name of benevolent capitalism.

Capitalism is not a political system, it is merely an attribute of some political systems. For example Capitalism is a part of Fascism. The US has indeed committed many atrocities, and to the extent it did so, it is wrong and its system is flawed.

Capitalism and Communism and Fascism are not opposites. It is better to think about Freedom as the system which is opposite to Totalitarianism. And while it is true that Freedom requires Capitalism, it is not true that Capitalism is sufficient to guarantee Freedom. Thus Communism and Fascism are both forms of society based on slavery, one of which employs Capitalism and one of which doesn't. They are both much more similar to each other than either is to Freedom even though Freedom shares Capitalism with Fascism. The US is definitely not an entirely free society and it never was, although it was arguably freer in the past than it is today.

Any nation which employs violence for any purpose except self defense is not entirely free.

The US today is essentially fascist. And it is pretty terrible. But Communism will not improve things - one system of slavery is no better than another - both feature a tiny handful of masters wielding immense power over everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

Communism is a philosophy that has some produced some good and some evil. Same with religion. Democracy. Capitalism.

Naziism is connected to a certain (mass-murdering) time in history.

They are different from one another in category.

I disagree. Communism and fascism are both political philosophies which have produced outcomes inferior to freedom. Both have resulted in mass slavery and mass murder, where communism actually has a worse record than fascism. Not all fascist regimes resulted in identical outcomes (Italy and Spain were less murderous than Germany for example), and not all communist regimes were equally brutal either - but in the end slavery is the logical endpoint of all totalitarian political systems whether communist or fascist - it is merely a question of how long any individual incarnation takes to arrive at the endpoint. And murder is a necessary colleague of slavery - both initially of all those unwilling to submit to slavery and then subsequently "pour encourager les autres".

Hitler was no better or worse than Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot - and all should be reviled equally.

It's also worth noting that the USA did not escape these ideologies and implemented a sort of fascism-lite over the early part of the twentieth century - FDR especially seemed inclined in this direction. Culturally the US proved more resistant, and for much longer, to the bad ideas but we have arguably reached full blown fascism today and we may well be getting close to the mass murder stage. I hope I am wrong about this.

I really like your historical analysis that calls communism and fascism resulting in "mass slavery" and then think that the U.S. avoided this....

Did you read what I wrote? I don't think the US avoided this, merely that the process took longer here. We are most certainly there now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, this is a serious question OP?
Bro, you mad about Nazi symbols not being "accepted"?

Please just go back to Parler.

No, Nazi symbols should not be accepted - but neither should Communist paraphernalia, because Communism led to genocides and mass murder. And Che Guevara was a terrorist. Why has nobody in Montgomery County called to complain and remove the Che Guevara graffiti from Silver Spring? This is extremely offensive to Cuban Americans and victims of Communism.

Communism is a philosophy that has some produced some good and some evil. Same with religion. Democracy. Capitalism.

Naziism is connected to a certain (mass-murdering) time in history.

They are different from one another in category.

I disagree. Communism and fascism are both political philosophies which have produced outcomes inferior to freedom. Both have resulted in mass slavery and mass murder, where communism actually has a worse record than fascism. Not all fascist regimes resulted in identical outcomes (Italy and Spain were less murderous than Germany for example), and not all communist regimes were equally brutal either - but in the end slavery is the logical endpoint of all totalitarian political systems whether communist or fascist - it is merely a question of how long any individual incarnation takes to arrive at the endpoint. And murder is a necessary colleague of slavery - both initially of all those unwilling to submit to slavery and then subsequently "pour encourager les autres".

Hitler was no better or worse than Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot - and all should be reviled equally.

It's also worth noting that the USA did not escape these ideologies and implemented a sort of fascism-lite over the early part of the twentieth century - FDR especially seemed inclined in this direction. Culturally the US proved more resistant, and for much longer, to the bad ideas but we have arguably reached full blown fascism today and we may well be getting close to the mass murder stage. I hope I am wrong about this.

I really like your historical analysis that calls communism and fascism resulting in "mass slavery" and then think that the U.S. avoided this....

Did you read what I wrote? I don't think the US avoided this, merely that the process took longer here. We are most certainly there now.

You dolt. I'm talking about the time that say, half the population of North Carolina was in chains. But now that we are free, you see slavery.

[Anonymous]

Most people don't fully understand. Che isn't as famous as Adolf. The horror factor is not as well publicized.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No the only person being laughed out the room is you for defending a school of thought responsible for 100M deaths. But but but they taught people education!.....'thank god!'.......said no one ever.....

No one wants 'education'.....more like 're-education' at the cost of gulags, famine, and mass communist murder and concentration camps.


Proof positive we have an active foreign disruptor campaign on these forums trying to stoke division. The get easily exposed when the topic is critical of china/russia.

Who needs facts when you got wittle weelings! Oh no, you got biiig weelings. Very big. How dare anyone disagree with me! How dare anyone point out flaws in my reasons! When I criticize China or Russia, everyone better fall in line..or else! My weelings will roarrrrr!

Tell me: when you get mad, do you get little pools of saliva in the corners of your mouth? drip drip.

Aww poor commie gonna commie.

How many crackers do you get per day in your gulag?

Why don't you ask a Japanese Americans over a certain age? Or a child in a detention center on the border? That little baby crawling across the cement floor in nothing but a diaper? They ought to know.

Democrat policy no less.

[Anonymous]

Sheer ignorance, that's why.

[Anonymous]

Hitler was a capitalist.